[St Paul]

Except for the many souls who have been chewed up and spat out, and left to pick through whatever scraps are left of their faith.  I know of three people, women, who have had nervous breakdowns after getting involved with OLMC.  There's no humor in that.  

And for:
- the poor souls who are still under fr. Pfeiffer's and pablo's spell
- the "slaves" who are "seminarians" and "postulants" under fr. Pfeiffer and pablo
- the parents of these "slaves"

No humor at all...
Many reparations will need to be made.

[confederate catholic]

this clown does realize that eastern bishops don't excommunicate. They may issue a letter saying that X has been found guilty and has been removed from the priesthood. They have no authority to excommunicate that can only be done by trial and confirmation by the synod.     ...
swing and a miss
He also should know he is not supposed to be wearing vestments of a rite he is not ordained in...
strike 2
when did he get the pallium? it's not even right
What a ________unable to distinguish between his audience. 

[Markus]

Why? This whole "drama" between Fr. Pfeiffer, Moran, and Fr. Hewko is equivalent to watching a train wreck in action. It DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for the Catholic cause. It is time we move on from this. 

Yes, it may be a trainwreck, but it's also free entertainment. What a mess the imbecile Fr. Pfeiffer has caused for the Catholic Resistance.
Still, for observers, it is important to see how Fr. Pfeiffer responds, because he is now definitively forced to choose between Moran or Hewko. If he had any sense, we know he would choose Fr. Hewko, but if he did, then he would look quite like an idiot because it would force him to break totally with Moran. And we know he hasn't broken with Moran completely, but only publicly. 

Granted, if he really had sense, he would submit to Bishop Williamson and then we could begin to have a semblance of unity in the Resistance here in the United States...

Ditto. If Fr Pf is still having anything at all to do with Moran, then he is either out of his mind or bewitched.

Or blackmailed. That is what I think.

[Matthew]

Except for the many souls who have been chewed up and spat out, and left to pick through whatever scraps are left of their faith.  I know of three people, women, who have had nervous breakdowns after getting involved with OLMC.  There's no humor in that.  

Yes, I should have said: it WOULD BE funny if it weren't so tragic -- if the welfare of souls wasn't involved.
As someone else said -- I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

[Matthew]

Or blackmailed. That is what I think.

When you "do the math", the conclusions are mind-boggling.

When you consider all the insanity and evil Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has engaged in, if it turns out that Pablo led him into those actions due to some "dirt" he had on Fr. Pfeiffer, one can only conclude: the dirt must be pretty bad indeed!

Let's just say I hope that isn't the case.

For example, if a co-worker of mine had some minor dirt on me, something I'd rather he keep secret, perhaps he could successfully blackmail me into bringing in doughnuts, treating him out to lunch, or something similar. Take it to the next level: say I had flirted with a woman at work. A co-worker might demand a few hundred dollars to buy his silence. But NOTE: he wouldn't be able to get me to sell my house and give him the price of the house, because WORST CASE his material could only result in a divorce, in which I'd lose 1/2 of the value of my house. See what I mean? Each secret only has so much leverage or power, based on the nature of the secret. It's all about how serious it is -- how much harm it could do if people found out.

But now consider this: What if a man was able to get me to sell my property, move across the country, alienate myself from my friends and family (and start attacking them), etc. What level of "dirt" would be required to have THAT ULTIMATE of a hold over me? What kind of material would it take to have THAT kind of blackmail leverage over a man?

If blackmail were involved in Fr. Pfeiffer's case, we'd be talking about that third class of blackmail.

Seriously: what kind of blackmail would it take to force a Traditional Catholic priest to place a man like Pablo (who needs to be checked out by an Exorcist, seriously) in charge of his apostolate? Accepting a schismatic con artist like Ambrose Moran? Favoring priests with "lavender" histories and attacking holy, dedicated priests like Bp. Zendejas and Bp. Williamson?

[Ladislaus]

I think he was formally schismatic when he joined one or more of the Orthodox groups he was associated with.

Right, but I can't rule out that he had recanted or formally repudiated those prior associations.  This here is present tense.

[St Paul]

Right, but I can't rule out that he had recanted or formally repudiated those prior associations.  This here is present tense.

Yes, you can rule that out.
Moran was with the CO group, a schismatic orthodox group,  just 6 months prior to hooking up with fr. Pfeiffer.
Also, if Moran ever formally recanted you can bet fr. Pfeiffer would have produced such a docuмent.  
Ergo, it never happened.

[St Paul]

If blackmail were involved in Fr. Pfeiffer's case, we'd be talking about that third class of blackmail.

Exactly.
Which is why i agree with 1MT (and others i know) that fr. Pfeiffer is probably bewitched.  

[Ladislaus]

Exactly.
Which is why i agree with MT (and others i know) that fr. Pfeiffer is probably bewitched.  

That's quite possible.  With Pablo as the bewitcher?

[St Paul]

That's quite possible.  With Pablo as the bewitcher?

That's my bet.

[Matthew]

That's my bet.

Well, one might wonder how Pablo got the nickname El Brujo ("The male witch" or "The warlock") 15+ years ago...
His other nickname? El Diablo -- which needs no translation.

I got this from a former SSPX priest familiar with the situation in Phoeniz, AZ back when Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer was there. A priest with a lot of connections and with a long career in the SSPX.

What else can explain Fr. Pfeiffer's behavior?

One person suggested blackmail -- but frankly, with all the evils coming out of Boston, KY, if Fr. Pfeiffer committed all these evils so that Pablo wouldn't reveal secret X about him, then secret X must be epic indeed! If all the nonsense coming out of Boston is the "lesser of two evils" for Fr. P, then woe unto him!  As in, he would have to have a "past" as dark and evil as any of those in the Deep State (read: the Bushes, Clintons, dungeons, children, trafficking, sacrifices, Epstein Island, making use of Chandler/Child-Handler's services, and so forth!) God forbid that such things EVER be true about an ordained priest!

[Francisco]

This man is small potatoes compared to that con man PAR EXCELLENCE Bernard Fellay

[Matthew]

This man is small potatoes compared to that con man PAR EXCELLENCE Bernard Fellay

I agree.
Ambrose Moran isn't just a con artist. He's an average, amateur, run of the mill, not particularly talented con artist. He isn't particularly talented at deception or covering his tracks. It was too easy to find out the real deal with him. A couple dozen Trads with Google access made short order of his scam.

How much intelligence or brains does it take to know and understand the differences between the different groups? He has mixed up the groups and their positions on several occasions that I can recall. He doesn't even understand the position of the Trad movement, and it's not exactly rocket science. He's kind of dumb actually.

I think when he first came on the scene, he was pushing that he had modern Conciliar or modern Papal approval about something or other. I remember thinking, "Does he know who he's talking to? That's not a selling point for Trad Catholics!"

A good con artist would have taken the 15 minutes to learn the Cliffs Notes version, at least, about the person/group you're trying to scam.

And since when do bishops (or archbishops) formally excommunicate lay Catholics without a trial? That's ludicrous. That doesn't happen in the Catholic Church, period. Anyone formally excommunicated like that always gets investigated, and gets the benefit of a trial first. Martin Luther, for example. And I'm pretty sure an average Bishop can't do all this on his own initiative. 

[Ladislaus]

Well, just being blackmailed might cause someone to DO things that are strange, but Father Pfeiffer speaks and acts as if he's mentally unhinged.  I don't think blackmail explains it.  Witchcraft might.

[Seraphina]

Well, just being blackmailed might cause someone to DO things that are strange, but Father Pfeiffer speaks and acts as if he's mentally unhinged.  I don't think blackmail explains it.  Witchcraft might.

Think: Drug connection via Arizona, supposed home of the warlock, state when the two first met long ago.  A combination of drugs, (poisoning), blackmail, witchcraft would result in almost anyone coming unhinged.  There has been a strange death and several bizarre, unexplainable sicknesses, and normally sensible people becoming entirely devoid of prudence.  The latter two have returned to normal after escaping the place.  The root cause?  Something that happened at OLOS early in Fr.'s priesthood.  Exactly what?  I'm not sure, but have my suspicions about an incident that occurred there.  I cannot say any more because I don't have all the facts.  If you still feel so led, pray for Fr. to have his mind restored and for Pablo to cash in his just pay.