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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: St Paul on April 08, 2019, 12:26:12 PM
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https://youtu.be/zgsIfHtb-9s (https://youtu.be/zgsIfHtb-9s)
He once again attacks the SSPX founded by Archbishop Lefebvre by attacking the Archbishop's priestly and episcopal Orders, declaring them invalid. He has done this many times in the last few weeks, declaring that all the SSPX priests are invalid, the four bishops consecrated by the Archbishop are invalid, all their sacraments are invalid, etc.
He goes on:
06:23 - In addition, because of lies and misleading the faithful we must tell you that you may attend the Masses and receive the sacraments of Fr. Possant [Poisson] whom we have certified and guaranteed as being a valid priest due to conditional ordination. You may not attend the sacraments of those where there is a doubt. And most especially David Hewko is deposed, defrocked, and excommunicated by us. He actually excommunicated and defrocked himself according to the most ancient canons of the Holy Apostles.
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So is Fr. Pfeiffer therefore, according to Moran, deposed, defrocked and excommunicated by him?
Why hasn't Moran said so publicly?
Either
1. Fr. Pfeiffer is still working with him, once again behind the backs of his followers,
Or
2. Fr. Pfeiffer has been "conditionally ordained" by Moran.
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What a clown show.
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I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.
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I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.
Ditto. If Fr Pf is still having anything at all to do with Moran, then he is either out of his mind or bewitched.
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Ditto. If Fr Pf is still having anything at all to do with Moran, then he is either out of his mind or bewitched.
Even more so by remaining with the Mexican warlock and kingpin.
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This guy should’ve been in pictures! :laugh2: He is an actor par excellence!
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Why hasn't Moran said so publicly?
Either
1. Fr. Pfeiffer is still working with him, once again behind the backs of his followers,
Or
2. Fr. Pfeiffer has been "conditionally ordained" by Moran.
Possibly. Or possibly just because he had Father Hewko's recent repudiation of him in mind. Hard to say, but one certainly might wonder.
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So he explicitly claims jurisdiction and the authority to excommunicate. I believe that makes him formally schismatic ... on top of all his other issues.
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It will be interesting to see Fr. Pfeiffer's response to this...
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So he explicitly claims jurisdiction and the authority to excommunicate. I believe that makes him formally schismatic ... on top of all his other issues.
I think he was formally schismatic when he joined one or more of the Orthodox groups he was associated with.
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It will be interesting to see Fr. Pfeiffer's response to this...
Why? This whole "drama" between Fr. Pfeiffer, Moran, and Fr. Hewko is equivalent to watching a train wreck in action. It DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for the Catholic cause. It is time we move on from this.
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"We" excommunicate? Who is "we?" A fake bishop can fake as many excommunications as he pleases. It's meaningless. My next guess is Fr. Pfeiffer will be "consecrated" a bishop by Moran. This is like getting fired by someone who isn't my boss and from a job I don't hold. Time to write off the entire OLMC establishment.
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It will be interesting to see Fr. Pfeiffer's response to this...
It is unlikely he will respond.
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What a 3-ring circus. A literal joke! The only thing OLMC drama is good for: a good hearty laugh.
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What a 3-ring circus. A literal joke! The only thing OLMC drama is good for: a good hearty laugh.
Except for the many souls who have been chewed up and spat out, and left to pick through whatever scraps are left of their faith. I know of three people, women, who have had nervous breakdowns after getting involved with OLMC. There's no humor in that.
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Except for the many souls who have been chewed up and spat out, and left to pick through whatever scraps are left of their faith. I know of three people, women, who have had nervous breakdowns after getting involved with OLMC. There's no humor in that.
And for:
- the poor souls who are still under fr. Pfeiffer's and pablo's spell
- the "slaves" who are "seminarians" and "postulants" under fr. Pfeiffer and pablo
- the parents of these "slaves"
No humor at all...
Many reparations will need to be made.
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this clown does realize that eastern bishops don't excommunicate. They may issue a letter saying that X has been found guilty and has been removed from the priesthood. They have no authority to excommunicate that can only be done by trial and confirmation by the synod. ...
swing and a miss
He also should know he is not supposed to be wearing vestments of a rite he is not ordained in...
strike 2
when did he get the pallium? it's not even right
What a ________unable to distinguish between his audience.
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Why? This whole "drama" between Fr. Pfeiffer, Moran, and Fr. Hewko is equivalent to watching a train wreck in action. It DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for the Catholic cause. It is time we move on from this.
Yes, it may be a trainwreck, but it's also free entertainment. What a mess the imbecile Fr. Pfeiffer has caused for the Catholic Resistance.
Still, for observers, it is important to see how Fr. Pfeiffer responds, because he is now definitively forced to choose between Moran or Hewko. If he had any sense, we know he would choose Fr. Hewko, but if he did, then he would look quite like an idiot because it would force him to break totally with Moran. And we know he hasn't broken with Moran completely, but only publicly.
Granted, if he really had sense, he would submit to Bishop Williamson and then we could begin to have a semblance of unity in the Resistance here in the United States...
Ditto. If Fr Pf is still having anything at all to do with Moran, then he is either out of his mind or bewitched.
Or blackmailed. That is what I think.
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Except for the many souls who have been chewed up and spat out, and left to pick through whatever scraps are left of their faith. I know of three people, women, who have had nervous breakdowns after getting involved with OLMC. There's no humor in that.
Yes, I should have said: it WOULD BE funny if it weren't so tragic -- if the welfare of souls wasn't involved.
As someone else said -- I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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Or blackmailed. That is what I think.
When you "do the math", the conclusions are mind-boggling.
When you consider all the insanity and evil Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has engaged in, if it turns out that Pablo led him into those actions due to some "dirt" he had on Fr. Pfeiffer, one can only conclude: the dirt must be pretty bad indeed!
Let's just say I hope that isn't the case.
For example, if a co-worker of mine had some minor dirt on me, something I'd rather he keep secret, perhaps he could successfully blackmail me into bringing in doughnuts, treating him out to lunch, or something similar. Take it to the next level: say I had flirted with a woman at work. A co-worker might demand a few hundred dollars to buy his silence. But NOTE: he wouldn't be able to get me to sell my house and give him the price of the house, because WORST CASE his material could only result in a divorce, in which I'd lose 1/2 of the value of my house. See what I mean? Each secret only has so much leverage or power, based on the nature of the secret. It's all about how serious it is -- how much harm it could do if people found out.
But now consider this: What if a man was able to get me to sell my property, move across the country, alienate myself from my friends and family (and start attacking them), etc. What level of "dirt" would be required to have THAT ULTIMATE of a hold over me? What kind of material would it take to have THAT kind of blackmail leverage over a man?
If blackmail were involved in Fr. Pfeiffer's case, we'd be talking about that third class of blackmail.
Seriously: what kind of blackmail would it take to force a Traditional Catholic priest to place a man like Pablo (who needs to be checked out by an Exorcist, seriously) in charge of his apostolate? Accepting a schismatic con artist like Ambrose Moran? Favoring priests with "lavender" histories and attacking holy, dedicated priests like Bp. Zendejas and Bp. Williamson?
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I think he was formally schismatic when he joined one or more of the Orthodox groups he was associated with.
Right, but I can't rule out that he had recanted or formally repudiated those prior associations. This here is present tense.
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Right, but I can't rule out that he had recanted or formally repudiated those prior associations. This here is present tense.
Yes, you can rule that out.
Moran was with the CO group, a schismatic orthodox group, just 6 months prior to hooking up with fr. Pfeiffer.
Also, if Moran ever formally recanted you can bet fr. Pfeiffer would have produced such a docuмent.
Ergo, it never happened.
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If blackmail were involved in Fr. Pfeiffer's case, we'd be talking about that third class of blackmail.
Exactly.
Which is why i agree with 1MT (and others i know) that fr. Pfeiffer is probably bewitched.
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Exactly.
Which is why i agree with MT (and others i know) that fr. Pfeiffer is probably bewitched.
That's quite possible. With Pablo as the bewitcher?
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That's quite possible. With Pablo as the bewitcher?
That's my bet.
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That's my bet.
Well, one might wonder how Pablo got the nickname El Brujo ("The male witch" or "The warlock") 15+ years ago...
His other nickname? El Diablo -- which needs no translation.
I got this from a former SSPX priest familiar with the situation in Phoeniz, AZ back when Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer was there. A priest with a lot of connections and with a long career in the SSPX.
What else can explain Fr. Pfeiffer's behavior?
One person suggested blackmail -- but frankly, with all the evils coming out of Boston, KY, if Fr. Pfeiffer committed all these evils so that Pablo wouldn't reveal secret X about him, then secret X must be epic indeed! If all the nonsense coming out of Boston is the "lesser of two evils" for Fr. P, then woe unto him! As in, he would have to have a "past" as dark and evil as any of those in the Deep State (read: the Bushes, Clintons, dungeons, children, trafficking, sacrifices, Epstein Island, making use of Chandler/Child-Handler's services, and so forth!) God forbid that such things EVER be true about an ordained priest!
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This man is small potatoes compared to that con man PAR EXCELLENCE Bernard Fellay
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This man is small potatoes compared to that con man PAR EXCELLENCE Bernard Fellay
I agree.
Ambrose Moran isn't just a con artist. He's an average, amateur, run of the mill, not particularly talented con artist. He isn't particularly talented at deception or covering his tracks. It was too easy to find out the real deal with him. A couple dozen Trads with Google access made short order of his scam.
How much intelligence or brains does it take to know and understand the differences between the different groups? He has mixed up the groups and their positions on several occasions that I can recall. He doesn't even understand the position of the Trad movement, and it's not exactly rocket science. He's kind of dumb actually.
I think when he first came on the scene, he was pushing that he had modern Conciliar or modern Papal approval about something or other. I remember thinking, "Does he know who he's talking to? That's not a selling point for Trad Catholics!"
A good con artist would have taken the 15 minutes to learn the Cliffs Notes version, at least, about the person/group you're trying to scam.
And since when do bishops (or archbishops) formally excommunicate lay Catholics without a trial? That's ludicrous. That doesn't happen in the Catholic Church, period. Anyone formally excommunicated like that always gets investigated, and gets the benefit of a trial first. Martin Luther, for example. And I'm pretty sure an average Bishop can't do all this on his own initiative.
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Well, just being blackmailed might cause someone to DO things that are strange, but Father Pfeiffer speaks and acts as if he's mentally unhinged. I don't think blackmail explains it. Witchcraft might.
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Well, just being blackmailed might cause someone to DO things that are strange, but Father Pfeiffer speaks and acts as if he's mentally unhinged. I don't think blackmail explains it. Witchcraft might.
Think: Drug connection via Arizona, supposed home of the warlock, state when the two first met long ago. A combination of drugs, (poisoning), blackmail, witchcraft would result in almost anyone coming unhinged. There has been a strange death and several bizarre, unexplainable sicknesses, and normally sensible people becoming entirely devoid of prudence. The latter two have returned to normal after escaping the place. The root cause? Something that happened at OLOS early in Fr.'s priesthood. Exactly what? I'm not sure, but have my suspicions about an incident that occurred there. I cannot say any more because I don't have all the facts. If you still feel so led, pray for Fr. to have his mind restored and for Pablo to cash in his just pay.
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https://youtu.be/zgsIfHtb-9s (https://youtu.be/zgsIfHtb-9s)
He once again attacks the SSPX founded by Archbishop Lefebvre by attacking the Archbishop's priestly and episcopal Orders, declaring them invalid. He has done this many times in the last few weeks, declaring that all the SSPX priests are invalid, the four bishops consecrated by the Archbishop are invalid, all their sacraments are invalid, etc.
He goes on:
06:23 - In addition, because of lies and misleading the faithful we must tell you that you may attend the Masses and receive the sacraments of Fr. Possant [Poisson] whom we have certified and guaranteed as being a valid priest due to conditional ordination. You may not attend the sacraments of those where there is a doubt. And most especially David Hewko is deposed, defrocked, and excommunicated by us. He actually excommunicated and defrocked himself according to the most ancient canons of the Holy Apostles.
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So is Fr. Pfeiffer therefore, according to Moran, deposed, defrocked and excommunicated by him?
Why hasn't Moran said so publicly?
Either
1. Fr. Pfeiffer is still working with him, once again behind the backs of his followers,
Or
2. Fr. Pfeiffer has been "conditionally ordained" by Moran.
Why are people still talking about an Orthodox Bishop? Didn't the Orthodox split from the Catholic Church a thousand years ago?
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"you may attend the Masses and receive the sacraments of Fr. Possant [Poisson] whom we have certified and guaranteed as being a valid priest due to conditional ordination. You may not attend the sacraments of those where there is a doubt." -- moran, passion sunday 2019
"[The priests and bishops of the SSPX line] are highly invalid" -- moran 4th sunday after the epiphany.
So Moran says Fr. Pfeiffer is "highly invalid" and you may not receive any sacraments from him.
I wonder why the Pfeiffer followers still accept Moran AND receive sacraments from Fr. Pfeiffer, unless fr. Pfeiffer was "conditionally ordained" by this non-bishop along with "fr." Poisson. Hmm...
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Yes, they are HIGHLY invalid ... as opposed to some other priests who may be only slightly invalid.
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Think: Drug connection via Arizona, supposed home of the warlock, state when the two first met long ago. A combination of drugs, (poisoning), blackmail, witchcraft would result in almost anyone coming unhinged. There has been a strange death and several bizarre, unexplainable sicknesses, and normally sensible people becoming entirely devoid of prudence. The latter two have returned to normal after escaping the place. The root cause? Something that happened at OLOS early in Fr.'s priesthood. Exactly what? I'm not sure, but have my suspicions about an incident that occurred there. I cannot say any more because I don't have all the facts. If you still feel so led, pray for Fr. to have his mind restored and for Pablo to cash in his just pay.
Yes, taken together with the details cited by Matthew, the mere fact that Pablo ("el brujo" and "el diablo") dabbled in exorcism without the requisite ecclesiastical authority severely opens him up to be taken over by the very spirits he claimed to have been doing battle with this. Father Ripperger is QUITE CLEAR that it's extremely dangerous to battle with such forces on one's own authority and without that of the Church. When Pablo matched wits with the fallen angels, the outcome would not have been difficult to predict.
And Father Pfeiffer was deeply affected by the SSPX summer camp drowning. I wonder if that happened before or after he came under Pablo's influence (spell?).
I found this online:
I personally knew both Frs. Pfeiffer when I was in the SSPX. I don't know about being a renegade or insubordinate, but he changed ever since he came back from a summer camp in which two boys drowned (1998 . He was severely depressed, wouldn't even speak to anyone, and says Requiem Masses for those boys for the entire month of August (even when the rubrics forbade doing so). I was a sacristan at the time. Some of this may linger in his psychological state to this day.
I wonder if Pablo's disturbing/diabolical presence may have contributed to the incident or if this happened pre-Pablo. Or did Pablo swoop in afterwards when Father in this beaten state could have been more vulnerable and susceptible to his influence.
We certainly need to pray for Father Pfeiffer ... and the intervention of an exorcist may not be entirely out of order.
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Yes, they are HIGHLY invalid ... as opposed to some other priests who may be only slightly invalid.
:laugh1:
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Yes, they are HIGHLY invalid ... as opposed to some other priests who may be only slightly invalid.
😂
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Right, but I can't rule out that he had recanted or formally repudiated those prior associations. This here is present tense.
True.
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I agree.
Ambrose Moran isn't just a con artist. He's an average, amateur, run of the mill, not particularly talented con artist. He isn't particularly talented at deception or covering his tracks. It was too easy to find out the real deal with him. A couple dozen Trads with Google access made short order of his scam.
How much intelligence or brains does it take to know and understand the differences between the different groups? He has mixed up the groups and their positions on several occasions that I can recall. He doesn't even understand the position of the Trad movement, and it's not exactly rocket science. He's kind of dumb actually.
I think when he first came on the scene, he was pushing that he had modern Conciliar or modern Papal approval about something or other. I remember thinking, "Does he know who he's talking to? That's not a selling point for Trad Catholics!"
A good con artist would have taken the 15 minutes to learn the Cliffs Notes version, at least, about the person/group you're trying to scam.
And since when do bishops (or archbishops) formally excommunicate lay Catholics without a trial? That's ludicrous. That doesn't happen in the Catholic Church, period. Anyone formally excommunicated like that always gets investigated, and gets the benefit of a trial first. Martin Luther, for example. And I'm pretty sure an average Bishop can't do all this on his own initiative.
You must admit that he is a very entertaining actor. His inflections and the raising and lowering of his voice is a natural talent!
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You must admit that he is a very entertaining actor. His inflections and the raising and lowering of his voice is a natural talent!
Agreed; he is in fact a talented speaker and story-teller.
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"you may attend the Masses and receive the sacraments of Fr. Possant [Poisson] whom we have certified and guaranteed as being a valid priest due to conditional ordination. You may not attend the sacraments of those where there is a doubt." -- moran, passion sunday 2019
"[The priests and bishops of the SSPX line] are highly invalid" -- moran 4th sunday after the epiphany.
So Moran says Fr. Pfeiffer is "highly invalid" and you may not receive any sacraments from him.
I wonder why the Pfeiffer followers still accept Moran AND receive sacraments from Fr. Pfeiffer, unless fr. Pfeiffer was "conditionally ordained" by this non-bishop along with "fr." Poisson. Hmm...
Why should Fr Pfeiffer, Bp Williamson, Bp Zendejas, Fr Chazal or priests of the SSPX worry about an Orthodox bishop when the Orthodox split from the Catholic church a thousand years ago?
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Why should Fr Pfeiffer, Bp Williamson, Bp Zendejas, Fr Chazal or priests of the SSPX worry about an Orthodox bishop when the Orthodox split from the Catholic church a thousand years ago?
They shouldn't.
Problem is fr. Pfeiffer worked with this charlatan in 2015, supposedly split with him, brought him back in 2018, had "fr"poisson conditionally ordained by moran, and then supposedly split with him again.
Fr. Pfeiffer is without a bishop (as is fr. Hewko) and he has a "seminary" and "convent" without a bishop. These are all violations of canon law. Fr. Pfeiffer knows it and is scrambling to find a bishop he can keep in his pocket, who will do his bidding. Moran was the best he could find, willing to work with Mr. Hernandez (aka pablo, "el diablo, "lay exorcist", etc) and himself.
A charlatan posing as a catholic bishop should be avoided at all costs.
Although, moran might be better than the rumors i hear about fr. Pfeiffer's association with Ryan St Anne Scott Gevelinger.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_St._Anne_Scott
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http://thecatacombs.org/thread/2088/moran-declares-fr-hewko-excommunicated
Admin: "These excommunications do nothing more than highlight the petty kingdom Moran rules in his own mind, condemning and sentencing with Draconian measures anyone who disagrees with him or who demonstrates the falsehoods he is promoting. God have mercy on him and anyone who is falling for this charade."
Deus vult: "Well if we were to believe Moran then the ONLY clergy the faithful can approach for sacraments are from himself and Fr. Possant (sic), since the rector of OLMC doesn't have valid orders either coming from the SSPX. "
Bethcline: "Yet another gift from the hands of our Blessed Mother to warn all these good Catholic' Resistance' families, whom she loves dearly, and give them, YET AGAIN, another opportunity to see first hand the absolute insanity in which Fr. Pfeiffer was leading us all. "
You get the picture.
These are laughable because they SUPPORTED and DEFENDED fr. Pfeiffer, Pablo, fr. Poisson, etc, for a LONG time, to the point of banning and not allowing anyone to write anything in opposition of their beliefs.
Will they apologize to all the people who they insulted and banned from their forum for doing nothing other than trying to speak truth about olmc? It will remain to be seen.
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You must admit that he is a very entertaining actor. His inflections and the raising and lowering of his voice is a natural talent!
Nah he's really nondescript! Not a patch on Bernie the Pied Piper cuм puppeteer cuм ventriloquist . You are not old enough to have seen Smiley but our older bros in Hollywood should make a film Smiley2 starring Bernie.
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Nah he's really nondescript! Not a patch on Bernie the Pied Piper cuм puppeteer cuм ventriloquist . You are not old enough to have seen Smiley but our older bros in Hollywood should make a film Smiley2 starring Bernie.
What is Smiley? I’ve never heard of it.
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What is Smiley? I’ve never heard of it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiley_(1956_film)
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiley_(1956_film)
I used to be an old movie buff, I’ve watched very few movies in the near 30 years since my conversion to tradition. Is it worth watching?
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I used to be an old movie buff, I’ve watched very few movies in the near 30 years since my conversion to tradition. Is it worth watching?
Don't waste your time on it. I saw it when it first came out. All about a kid who smiled a lot . At least that's what I remember.
Some people have a lot to smile about having received lots of legacies from lots of old folk, who denied their own children in the bargain, so that the Church could be saved.!!!
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What is Smiley? I’ve never heard of it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=61POiaWkk1w
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Quote from: psalter on April 10, 2019, 10:32:55 PM
(https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-pfeiffer's-moran-excommunicates-across-the-board/msg649248/#msg649248)
Why should Fr Pfeiffer, Bp Williamson, Bp Zendejas, Fr Chazal or priests of the SSPX worry about an Orthodox bishop when the Orthodox split from the Catholic church a thousand years ago? (https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=51873.msg649281#msg649281)
They shouldn't.
Problem is fr. Pfeiffer worked with this charlatan in 2015, supposedly split with him, brought him back in 2018, had "fr"poisson conditionally ordained by moran, and then supposedly split with him again.
Fr. Pfeiffer is without a bishop (as is fr. Hewko) and he has a "seminary" and "convent" without a bishop. These are all violations of canon law. Fr. Pfeiffer knows it and is scrambling to find a bishop he can keep in his pocket, who will do his bidding. Moran was the best he could find, willing to work with Mr. Hernandez (aka pablo, "el diablo, "lay exorcist", etc) and himself.
A charlatan posing as a catholic bishop should be avoided at all costs.
Although, moran might be better than the rumors i hear about fr. Pfeiffer's association with Ryan St Anne Scott Gevelinger.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_St._Anne_Scott
If you are concerned about breaking Canon law, then you should also be aware that since Vatican II many have broken canon law using the argument that Catholics are in a "state of necessity" and/or claiming that we are in an indefinite interregnum as we have a heretical Pope. Although there is truth to the fact that we are in a period of crisis, breaking the law is still breaking the law. And if you are concerned about Fr. Pfeiffer's seminary, then you should know that the law of the Church requires that ecclesiastical seminaries must be diocesan, interdiocesan, provincial, or pontifical. Which of the Traditional Catholic seminaries are diocesan, interdiocesan, provincial, or pontifical?
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Good thing i am neither a canon lawyer nor a bishop!
This is why priests must have superiors, to help guide them to stay on the straight and narrow.
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since Vatican II many have broken canon law using the argument that Catholics are in a "state of necessity"
Canon Law itself has what are known as "emergency canons" for such necessities we are living in. Canon law is extremely lenient on who decides the state of necessity. No one is breaking the law by appealing to the emergency canons; that's why they exist.
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(Forgive me if it will be a long letter)
Dear Matthew we have to pray for all of us!
And I think after having to deal with this sort of persons in OLMC we all need a realy good exorcist.
Believe me, it's the best for all of us, but it is difficult to find one!
This are the consequences of a modernist church which has abolished exorcists....
All those who had been in contact with Pablo have to seek help even if it is not immediately noticeable, if you had to deal with him YOU NEED HELP! There are consequences of having anything to do with him and His headquarter (Pfeiferville).
So many strange things were happening there....
For example he gave me a food in which I AM SURE he put his blood drops in it, to do me a spell.
So how spells will he have done with Fr. Pfeiffer ans others using food?
I went with him and fr. Pfeiffer once to a takeaway-restaurant. When my dinner was ready he told me that something is missing in the food and he went with my plate to the kitchen of the restaurant, I heard him whisper something very quietly to the chef that came out of the kitchen because he wanted to talk to him.
I did not understand why he was speaking so secretly to chef. But the chef answered aloud and said that "in these soup do not belong tomato!" and: "But if you want it, how many do you want?" Pablo said silently something and the chef answered loudly: "fine in 3 pieces!"
I could have gone to Pablo to get my soup back, but I did not, because I didn´t want to leave Fr. Pfeiffer alone sitting at the table.
I was so naive !!!
The crazy thing was that before Pablo took my soup, Fr.Pfeiffer din´t want him to do it and yelled at him very loud.
I wanted to stop both and so I told Fr. Pfeiffer that it was all right, and accepted that Pablo took it and brought it to the chef.
The strange thing was, when the chef came back from the kitchen and gave him back my soup, Pablo did not come back but he was still standing there with his back to me, he stood there with my soup and I heard a noise of a plastic bag. A child which was traveling with us (friend of Pablo) was all the time like completely hypnotized by Pablo, Pablo called this child and the child went to him with a plastic bag. All this was happening during the timeI was sitting with Fr. Pfeiffer and we were talking about things that are going on in the church.
Looking to Pablo that called the kid with a plastic bag, I thought maybe he wanted to wrap up my soup, to eat it later in the car (because it was also a takeaway restaurant).
Since Pablo was always strange I did not ask any questions, I knew that everything was possible with him and that he was little bit crazy.
But I could not understand what was going on and why he did not bring me the soup. What did he took from the plastic bag and what was he doing with my soup??
After some minute he brought the child to me with my soup and told me to enjoy. Oh, mad me, I shouldn't have eaten ..
His behavior seemed so weird that I started to look in internet, so I started with the first inexplicable situation, the one in the restaurant.
What I had found out was: a witchcraft
In a dark book of witchcraft and of black magic I found out= A witchcraft that can be done with a soup, but you have to make sure that in this vegetable soup are 3 pieces of Tomato in it, and then you have to do some drops of your blood (I can not remember if it should be 2 or 3 drops) in it. After you do so, the witchcraft works and the person who was against you and take this soup, begins to obey and follow you more and to be more and more obedient to you. You need to know that I was disturbing Pablo very much, because compared to others in Pfeifferville, including Fr. Hewko, I was the only person who did not get advice from him and did not let him give me orders (the other person that did not accept Pablo was Fr. Pfeiffers Daddy). No matter what, if he did something in my soup, the soup maybe did´t work the way it had to, but it certainly has some consequences and it is not good to eat poisonous food.
One day when I was in the priest's house, being asked to help out and clean up a little, Pablos room (yes he was living in the priest house) was open and a person (don´t want to say his name) went out of this room, with fear in his face, and told me that all the resistance priests and bishops are in danger..., because Pablo has something going on with spells, he has on his desk objects like for voodo or santeria witchcraft and some cigars, and has as well as books about HOW TO BRING A PERSON into psychological addiction and about hypnosis.
In the beginning I really thought this person is just playing a psychological game and is harmless. Even when, after my first night spent in Kentuky, when I woke up in the morning I found a big big clock on my bedside table.
That means that one has visited me at night. Someone who also had the keys.
In Kentucky as a visitor I stayed at the seminary, which was allowed because the seminarist were on vacation.
I didn´t say anything to fr. Pfeiffer or to Fr. Hewko about the huge Clock that someone will have brought in overnight but I asked him, who else has a key except me. It was a new lock and I had received one key but who had the second one?
Fr. Pfeiffer told me that Pablo has the second key and he told him to give me also the second key but Pablo never obeyed Father Pfeiffer ...
I stayed normal, said nothing to anyone, and I was friendly to Pablo.
The next morning, instead, I found something else in my room when I got up= a very big butcher knife.
Instead of the clock that had disappeared over night, was a butcher knife.
I thought these are the psychological tricks to scare me. But honestly, it felt a bit strange.
I got a bit scared but then I told myself that's what he wanted, he's crazy and just wants to scare me because I do not let him dominate me and I do not think highly of him, like the others do.
He just wants domination and satan wants me to run away and leave this resistance group.
So I asked God during my prayer time for courage to stay and endure it...
I started to laughed about these things that were going on and thought it was a game of an adult acting crazy.
At next I started at night to hear a noice and went to the corridor and saw Pablo standing inside at the door burning with a cigar the carpet.
He stood with his back to me so he did not see me because he was also in a stooped position.
He spoke formulas in Spanish. I stayed hidden and quiet behind him, and could listen him talking something strange.
Then he left 3 holes full of ash on the carpet and went out.
The next day I cleaned the burned holes of the carpet with the vacuum cleaner but after I went out for a while and came back, I found again the 3 holes full of ashes and a bad odor.
One night before I fell asleep I smelled the smoke of a cigar, I got up and saw Pablo in the dark standing in the corridor on the front door, he was burning the carpet again. Even this time I stayed calm and thought that this person is only acting weird or a little bit unsane.
But I looked again on the Internet and found out that it is witchcraft. To burn the carpet with a cigar and to make 3 holes and leave the ashes in the holes with a few curses that should be spoken, it is for hat this place (or person?) burns up, goes up in flames etc.
No matter what it was, it was a diabolical and I knew that I should not sleep there anymore.
So I found help by some kindly people who took me in, and Pablo went crazy and wild and yelled that I should stay there and not go away.
I kept getting calls on my american cellphone number, it was people in spanish who always cursed me. Sometimes women from south america called me and sometimes men and they all cursed me on the phone. They wished me the worst and hung up.
Who were these people?
Can someone tell me from the cathinfo if you have already experienced something like that?
I didn't answer the phone anymore. But now they became very smart. Whenever Fr. Pfeiffer was gone, as for example in Dallas and other cities, I got calls from these cities. On my smartphone was written for example: call from Dallas or Denver (do not remember exactly the order of the cities). So I thought it was fr. Pfeiffer or a person that was with him, and answered the call, but again a latino person shouted curses in spanish over me. WHO WAS IT????
Did these people get money to call me and tell me these horrible things?
If they were paid, with what money they were paid? With the money of donation? Do they raise money and accept donations to use it for something good but then they use it to harm you? Pablo always got access to the bank account from Fr. Pfeiffer as well as donate money.
I did not understand why so many different people called me several times a day to curse me in Spanish.
Do you have an idea??
I thought it was one of those tricks, because I knew that he had certain books about how to make a person dependent and obedient, using terror and psychological tricks.
I said to myself: no I'm not afraid, I'm strong with God and I'm not scared because these are only power and control games of a sick person but I'm strong because I'm with God and I stay here (resistance Kentucky) even if satan does not want me to be here.
So I lived not far from the chapel but no longer on Fr. Pfeiffers ground.
But what I found questionable, however, was why Pablo wanted to have me on the property.
So I started doubting if it really was God's will for me to stay or if I should not move away forever....
What made me move?
I moved into this property and stayed overnight with the family of Fr. Pfeiffer... I do not want to go into details, I thought it was safe there but now something incomprehensible happened .... in my room.
I was left alone in this home, I was alone in one room, no matter what I thought I am safe.
At night a few minutes before midnight, my smartphone started ringing again.
I did not answer the phone because I thought it was again a person screaming curse.
With my other smartphone (I had two) I started to listen to the litany of the Saints, in latin as an audio recording.
The more the phone rang the louder I made the litany and said to myself that I do not have to be afraid.
Then I did something it should not be done. I hung up! I did not know that one should not act like that. I did not pick up the phone call, but I pressed the red button to reject the call. Later I read that we should not do that either. We should not answer but also not hang up, because pressing the red button means a reaction and it is like opening the door to the curse or the spirit and this can penetrate.
I did not understand it then and knew nothing about it so I did it.
At this moment, when I pressed the red button, it was one minute before midnight. I was just looking at the clock, when it struck midnight there was a loud noise, it was as if somebody jumped into my room. Until this moment, I really thought it was all a joke, a prank, and the witchcraft is like a game, without any power or result.
I was a more rational person and a believer, believing in the power of God more than in Satans acting spirits...
Pablo always talked about ghosts and demons, freemasons, human sacrifices and fallen angels and exorcism, i did not like to hear about it, and demons and exorcism was not my interest.
But that night I realized that it was all no joke but satanism.
There were these fallen angels or whatever it was, that was in my room, there were moving cupboards, it opened and closed the cupboards it also turned on the gas stoven. This something that was making noice, had feet because it walked and even breathes, but it could not approach me for I was kneeling before the cross and prayed.
On the floor kneeling before the cross I felt safe, and was convinced that this "something" could not get closer to me as long as I stayed kneeling. Then all lights went out and the gas alarm started.......
Should I get up but be in danger? Or should I stay on my knees but possibly stifle on gas poisoning?
I stayed on my knees and prayed aloud with the audio recording the Litany of the saints, and took then my smartphone (the one where I got all the bad calls) and called a family member from a priest... this family member came immediately and,
opened all the windows, and got me out of there ..... I told him nothing about what was going on but this person said immediately: it's Pablo. He always walks in the woods at midnight and who knows what he is doing there on magic. Satan wants you away.
Do not let him win. He want´s to destroy the RESISTANCE.
This I was told.
WHETHER IT WAS SATAN OR GOD THAT WANTED THAT I LEAVE, I HAVE DECIDED IMMEDIATELY TO LEAVE THIS PLACE AND I NEVER WENT BACK.
This evil person that did all these things to me, threatened me, and then called me to ask how my parents are....that their health are in danger... since then they are ill and many years have passed and they are still ill.
I myself have a deep sorrow in my heart and a permanent battle... since then and ask for prayer. I pray for all of you and the poor priests and all the souls in need in this fight between heaven and hell.
May God bless you!! We all need Help and blessings and the intervention from Heaven in this evil time.
Oportet Christum regnare!
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Catholicus, thank you for sharing your story. Thanks be to God you are out of there. That place needs to be shut down.
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I have long said that the hold Pablo has on Father Pfeiffer is not explainable in natural terms; I would venture to say that he's deeply involved in the dark arts. When as a layman without requisite ecclesiastical authority you begin to dabble with evil spirits, it's almost inevitable that they will overcome you. Pablo has likely been taken over by evil, and he's now an agent for perpetrating dark mischief against others as well.
We need to pray for Father Pfeiffer and all those at OLMC.
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(Forgive me if it will be a long letter)
Dear Matthew we have to pray for all of us!
And I think after having to deal with this sort of persons in OLMC we all need a realy good exorcist.
Believe me, it's the best for all of us, but it is difficult to find one!
This are the consequences of a modernist church which has abolished exorcists....
All those who had been in contact with Pablo have to seek help even if it is not immediately noticeable, if you had to deal with him YOU NEED HELP! There are consequences of having anything to do with him and His headquarter (Pfeiferville).
So many strange things were happening there....
For example he gave me a food in which I AM SURE he put his blood drops in it, to do me a spell.
So how spells will he have done with Fr. Pfeiffer ans others using food?
I went with him and fr. Pfeiffer once to a takeaway-restaurant. When my dinner was ready he told me that something is missing in the food and he went with my plate to the kitchen of the restaurant, I heard him whisper something very quietly to the chef that came out of the kitchen because he wanted to talk to him.
I did not understand why he was speaking so secretly to chef. But the chef answered aloud and said that "in these soup do not belong tomato!" and: "But if you want it, how many do you want?" Pablo said silently something and the chef answered loudly: "fine in 3 pieces!"
I could have gone to Pablo to get my soup back, but I did not, because I didn´t want to leave Fr. Pfeiffer alone sitting at the table.
I was so naive !!!
The crazy thing was that before Pablo took my soup, Fr.Pfeiffer din´t want him to do it and yelled at him very loud.
I wanted to stop both and so I told Fr. Pfeiffer that it was all right, and accepted that Pablo took it and brought it to the chef.
The strange thing was, when the chef came back from the kitchen and gave him back my soup, Pablo did not come back but he was still standing there with his back to me, he stood there with my soup and I heard a noise of a plastic bag. A child which was traveling with us (friend of Pablo) was all the time like completely hypnotized by Pablo, Pablo called this child and the child went to him with a plastic bag. All this was happening during the timeI was sitting with Fr. Pfeiffer and we were talking about things that are going on in the church.
Looking to Pablo that called the kid with a plastic bag, I thought maybe he wanted to wrap up my soup, to eat it later in the car (because it was also a takeaway restaurant).
Since Pablo was always strange I did not ask any questions, I knew that everything was possible with him and that he was little bit crazy.
But I could not understand what was going on and why he did not bring me the soup. What did he took from the plastic bag and what was he doing with my soup??
After some minute he brought the child to me with my soup and told me to enjoy. Oh, mad me, I shouldn't have eaten ..
His behavior seemed so weird that I started to look in internet, so I started with the first inexplicable situation, the one in the restaurant.
What I had found out was: a witchcraft
In a dark book of witchcraft and of black magic I found out= A witchcraft that can be done with a soup, but you have to make sure that in this vegetable soup are 3 pieces of Tomato in it, and then you have to do some drops of your blood (I can not remember if it should be 2 or 3 drops) in it. After you do so, the witchcraft works and the person who was against you and take this soup, begins to obey and follow you more and to be more and more obedient to you. You need to know that I was disturbing Pablo very much, because compared to others in Pfeifferville, including Fr. Hewko, I was the only person who did not get advice from him and did not let him give me orders (the other person that did not accept Pablo was Fr. Pfeiffers Daddy). No matter what, if he did something in my soup, the soup maybe did´t work the way it had to, but it certainly has some consequences and it is not good to eat poisonous food.
One day when I was in the priest's house, being asked to help out and clean up a little, Pablos room (yes he was living in the priest house) was open and a person (don´t want to say his name) went out of this room, with fear in his face, and told me that all the resistance priests and bishops are in danger..., because Pablo has something going on with spells, he has on his desk objects like for voodo or santeria witchcraft and some cigars, and has as well as books about HOW TO BRING A PERSON into psychological addiction and about hypnosis.
In the beginning I really thought this person is just playing a psychological game and is harmless. Even when, after my first night spent in Kentuky, when I woke up in the morning I found a big big clock on my bedside table.
That means that one has visited me at night. Someone who also had the keys.
In Kentucky as a visitor I stayed at the seminary, which was allowed because the seminarist were on vacation.
I didn´t say anything to fr. Pfeiffer or to Fr. Hewko about the huge Clock that someone will have brought in overnight but I asked him, who else has a key except me. It was a new lock and I had received one key but who had the second one?
Fr. Pfeiffer told me that Pablo has the second key and he told him to give me also the second key but Pablo never obeyed Father Pfeiffer ...
I stayed normal, said nothing to anyone, and I was friendly to Pablo.
The next morning, instead, I found something else in my room when I got up= a very big butcher knife.
Instead of the clock that had disappeared over night, was a butcher knife.
I thought these are the psychological tricks to scare me. But honestly, it felt a bit strange.
I got a bit scared but then I told myself that's what he wanted, he's crazy and just wants to scare me because I do not let him dominate me and I do not think highly of him, like the others do.
He just wants domination and satan wants me to run away and leave this resistance group.
So I asked God during my prayer time for courage to stay and endure it...
I started to laughed about these things that were going on and thought it was a game of an adult acting crazy.
At next I started at night to hear a noice and went to the corridor and saw Pablo standing inside at the door burning with a cigar the carpet.
He stood with his back to me so he did not see me because he was also in a stooped position.
He spoke formulas in Spanish. I stayed hidden and quiet behind him, and could listen him talking something strange.
Then he left 3 holes full of ash on the carpet and went out.
The next day I cleaned the burned holes of the carpet with the vacuum cleaner but after I went out for a while and came back, I found again the 3 holes full of ashes and a bad odor.
One night before I fell asleep I smelled the smoke of a cigar, I got up and saw Pablo in the dark standing in the corridor on the front door, he was burning the carpet again. Even this time I stayed calm and thought that this person is only acting weird or a little bit unsane.
But I looked again on the Internet and found out that it is witchcraft. To burn the carpet with a cigar and to make 3 holes and leave the ashes in the holes with a few curses that should be spoken, it is for hat this place (or person?) burns up, goes up in flames etc.
No matter what it was, it was a diabolical and I knew that I should not sleep there anymore.
So I found help by some kindly people who took me in, and Pablo went crazy and wild and yelled that I should stay there and not go away.
I kept getting calls on my american cellphone number, it was people in spanish who always cursed me. Sometimes women from south america called me and sometimes men and they all cursed me on the phone. They wished me the worst and hung up.
Who were these people?
Can someone tell me from the cathinfo if you have already experienced something like that?
I didn't answer the phone anymore. But now they became very smart. Whenever Fr. Pfeiffer was gone, as for example in Dallas and other cities, I got calls from these cities. On my smartphone was written for example: call from Dallas or Denver (do not remember exactly the order of the cities). So I thought it was fr. Pfeiffer or a person that was with him, and answered the call, but again a latino person shouted curses in spanish over me. WHO WAS IT????
Did these people get money to call me and tell me these horrible things?
If they were paid, with what money they were paid? With the money of donation? Do they raise money and accept donations to use it for something good but then they use it to harm you? Pablo always got access to the bank account from Fr. Pfeiffer as well as donate money.
I did not understand why so many different people called me several times a day to curse me in Spanish.
Do you have an idea??
I thought it was one of those tricks, because I knew that he had certain books about how to make a person dependent and obedient, using terror and psychological tricks.
I said to myself: no I'm not afraid, I'm strong with God and I'm not scared because these are only power and control games of a sick person but I'm strong because I'm with God and I stay here (resistance Kentucky) even if satan does not want me to be here.
So I lived not far from the chapel but no longer on Fr. Pfeiffers ground.
But what I found questionable, however, was why Pablo wanted to have me on the property.
So I started doubting if it really was God's will for me to stay or if I should not move away forever....
What made me move?
I moved into this property and stayed overnight with the family of Fr. Pfeiffer... I do not want to go into details, I thought it was safe there but now something incomprehensible happened .... in my room.
I was left alone in this home, I was alone in one room, no matter what I thought I am safe.
At night a few minutes before midnight, my smartphone started ringing again.
I did not answer the phone because I thought it was again a person screaming curse.
With my other smartphone (I had two) I started to listen to the litany of the Saints, in latin as an audio recording.
The more the phone rang the louder I made the litany and said to myself that I do not have to be afraid.
Then I did something it should not be done. I hung up! I did not know that one should not act like that. I did not pick up the phone call, but I pressed the red button to reject the call. Later I read that we should not do that either. We should not answer but also not hang up, because pressing the red button means a reaction and it is like opening the door to the curse or the spirit and this can penetrate.
I did not understand it then and knew nothing about it so I did it.
At this moment, when I pressed the red button, it was one minute before midnight. I was just looking at the clock, when it struck midnight there was a loud noise, it was as if somebody jumped into my room. Until this moment, I really thought it was all a joke, a prank, and the witchcraft is like a game, without any power or result.
I was a more rational person and a believer, believing in the power of God more than in Satans acting spirits...
Pablo always talked about ghosts and demons, freemasons, human sacrifices and fallen angels and exorcism, i did not like to hear about it, and demons and exorcism was not my interest.
But that night I realized that it was all no joke but satanism.
There were these fallen angels or whatever it was, that was in my room, there were moving cupboards, it opened and closed the cupboards it also turned on the gas stoven. This something that was making noice, had feet because it walked and even breathes, but it could not approach me for I was kneeling before the cross and prayed.
On the floor kneeling before the cross I felt safe, and was convinced that this "something" could not get closer to me as long as I stayed kneeling. Then all lights went out and the gas alarm started.......
Should I get up but be in danger? Or should I stay on my knees but possibly stifle on gas poisoning?
I stayed on my knees and prayed aloud with the audio recording the Litany of the saints, and took then my smartphone (the one where I got all the bad calls) and called a family member from a priest... this family member came immediately and,
opened all the windows, and got me out of there ..... I told him nothing about what was going on but this person said immediately: it's Pablo. He always walks in the woods at midnight and who knows what he is doing there on magic. Satan wants you away.
Do not let him win. He want´s to destroy the RESISTANCE.
This I was told.
WHETHER IT WAS SATAN OR GOD THAT WANTED THAT I LEAVE, I HAVE DECIDED IMMEDIATELY TO LEAVE THIS PLACE AND I NEVER WENT BACK.
This evil person that did all these things to me, threatened me, and then called me to ask how my parents are....that their health are in danger... since then they are ill and many years have passed and they are still ill.
I myself have a deep sorrow in my heart and a permanent battle... since then and ask for prayer. I pray for all of you and the poor priests and all the souls in need in this fight between heaven and hell.
May God bless you!! We all need Help and blessings and the intervention from Heaven in this evil time.
Oportet Christum regnare!
THANK YOU for sharing your story.
He is dangerous.
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I have long said that the hold Pablo has on Father Pfeiffer is not explainable in natural terms; I would venture to say that he's deeply involved in the dark arts. When as a layman without requisite ecclesiastical authority you begin to dabble with evil spirits, it's almost inevitable that they will overcome you. Pablo has likely been taken over by evil, and he's now an agent for perpetrating dark mischief against others as well.
We need to pray for Father Pfeiffer and all those at OLMC.
Fr. Pfeiffer now tells the seminarians that pablo is "nearly a saint"!
There is no question that fr. Pfeiffer is "bewitched", as a friend said to me recently.
I know pablo bewitches others who were there and left.
I know one person who was there who desperately needs an exorcist, but fr. Ripperger says he must go through the local diocese and get a referral first. Any other exorcists out there who are legit and more easily available? Please PM me.
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That place needs to be shut down.
Correction:
:heretic:
"Burned down"
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Quote from: St Paul on Thu April 11, 2019, 08:28:46 AM »
These are all violations of canon law.
Good thing i am neither a canon lawyer nor a bishop!
This is why priests must have superiors, to help guide them to stay on the straight and narrow.
Wait, what?? ???
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I have reasons to believe nothing about this story as having occurred. It takes elements of previous stories, both real and fictional, and reworks them into a more diabolical and sensational package. It is designed to play off the fears that many have about Boston.
I doubt this story ever took place, given the details which do not add up.
I believe this story to be a forgery, repeated twice at least now, copied and pasted from another thread.
It helps to read it aloud for the inconsistencies and issues to be a little clearer. It reads like bad fiction, and it lacks credibility.