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Offline psalter

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Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2019, 09:42:12 PM »
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  • He once again attacks the SSPX founded by Archbishop Lefebvre by attacking the Archbishop's priestly and episcopal Orders, declaring them invalid. He has done this many times in the last few weeks, declaring that all the SSPX priests are invalid, the four bishops consecrated by the Archbishop are invalid, all their sacraments are invalid, etc.

    He goes on:
    06:23 - In addition, because of lies and misleading the faithful we must tell you that you may attend the Masses and receive the sacraments of Fr. Possant [Poisson] whom we have certified and guaranteed as being a valid priest due to conditional ordination. You may not attend the sacraments of those where there is a doubt. And most especially David Hewko is deposed, defrocked, and excommunicated by us. He actually excommunicated and defrocked himself according to the most ancient canons of the Holy Apostles.
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    So is Fr. Pfeiffer therefore, according to Moran, deposed, defrocked and excommunicated by him?

    Why hasn't Moran said so publicly?

    Either
    1. Fr. Pfeiffer is still working with him, once again behind the backs of his followers,
    Or
    2. Fr. Pfeiffer has been "conditionally ordained" by Moran.
    Why are people still talking about an Orthodox Bishop? Didn't the Orthodox split from the Catholic Church a thousand years ago? 

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
    « Reply #31 on: April 10, 2019, 08:25:02 AM »
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  • "you may attend the Masses and receive the sacraments of Fr. Possant [Poisson] whom we have certified and guaranteed as being a valid priest due to conditional ordination. You may not attend the sacraments of those where there is a doubt." -- moran, passion sunday 2019
     
     "[The priests and bishops of the SSPX line] are highly invalid" -- moran 4th sunday after the epiphany.
     
     So Moran says Fr. Pfeiffer is "highly invalid" and you may not receive any sacraments from him.
     
     I wonder why the Pfeiffer followers still accept Moran AND receive sacraments from Fr. Pfeiffer, unless fr. Pfeiffer was "conditionally ordained" by this non-bishop along with "fr." Poisson. Hmm...


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
    « Reply #32 on: April 10, 2019, 08:46:04 AM »
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  • Yes, they are HIGHLY invalid ... as opposed to some other priests who may be only slightly invalid.

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
    « Reply #33 on: April 10, 2019, 08:48:31 AM »
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  • Think: Drug connection via Arizona, supposed home of the warlock, state when the two first met long ago.  A combination of drugs, (poisoning), blackmail, witchcraft would result in almost anyone coming unhinged.  There has been a strange death and several bizarre, unexplainable sicknesses, and normally sensible people becoming entirely devoid of prudence.  The latter two have returned to normal after escaping the place.  The root cause?  Something that happened at OLOS early in Fr.'s priesthood.  Exactly what?  I'm not sure, but have my suspicions about an incident that occurred there.  I cannot say any more because I don't have all the facts.  If you still feel so led, pray for Fr. to have his mind restored and for Pablo to cash in his just pay.

    Yes, taken together with the details cited by Matthew, the mere fact that Pablo ("el brujo" and "el diablo") dabbled in exorcism without the requisite ecclesiastical authority severely opens him up to be taken over by the very spirits he claimed to have been doing battle with this.  Father Ripperger is QUITE CLEAR that it's extremely dangerous to battle with such forces on one's own authority and without that of the Church.  When Pablo matched wits with the fallen angels, the outcome would not have been difficult to predict.

    And Father Pfeiffer was deeply affected by the SSPX summer camp drowning.  I wonder if that happened before or after he came under Pablo's influence (spell?).

    I found this online:
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    I personally knew both Frs. Pfeiffer when I was in the SSPX. I don't know about being a renegade or insubordinate, but he changed ever since he came back from a summer camp in which two boys drowned (1998 . He was severely depressed, wouldn't even speak to anyone, and says Requiem Masses for those boys for the entire month of August (even when the rubrics forbade doing so). I was a sacristan at the time. Some of this may linger in his psychological state to this day.

    I wonder if Pablo's disturbing/diabolical presence may have contributed to the incident or if this happened pre-Pablo.  Or did Pablo swoop in afterwards when Father in this beaten state could have been more vulnerable and susceptible to his influence.

    We certainly need to pray for Father Pfeiffer ... and the intervention of an exorcist may not be entirely out of order.

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
    « Reply #34 on: April 10, 2019, 10:03:23 AM »
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  • Yes, they are HIGHLY invalid ... as opposed to some other priests who may be only slightly invalid.
    :laugh1:


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
    « Reply #35 on: April 10, 2019, 02:56:42 PM »
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  • Yes, they are HIGHLY invalid ... as opposed to some other priests who may be only slightly invalid.
    😂 
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
    « Reply #36 on: April 10, 2019, 03:00:42 PM »
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  • Right, but I can't rule out that he had recanted or formally repudiated those prior associations.  This here is present tense.
    True.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
    « Reply #37 on: April 10, 2019, 03:08:59 PM »
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  • I agree.
    Ambrose Moran isn't just a con artist. He's an average, amateur, run of the mill, not particularly talented con artist. He isn't particularly talented at deception or covering his tracks. It was too easy to find out the real deal with him. A couple dozen Trads with Google access made short order of his scam.

    How much intelligence or brains does it take to know and understand the differences between the different groups? He has mixed up the groups and their positions on several occasions that I can recall. He doesn't even understand the position of the Trad movement, and it's not exactly rocket science. He's kind of dumb actually.

    I think when he first came on the scene, he was pushing that he had modern Conciliar or modern Papal approval about something or other. I remember thinking, "Does he know who he's talking to? That's not a selling point for Trad Catholics!"

    A good con artist would have taken the 15 minutes to learn the Cliffs Notes version, at least, about the person/group you're trying to scam.

    And since when do bishops (or archbishops) formally excommunicate lay Catholics without a trial? That's ludicrous. That doesn't happen in the Catholic Church, period. Anyone formally excommunicated like that always gets investigated, and gets the benefit of a trial first. Martin Luther, for example. And I'm pretty sure an average Bishop can't do all this on his own initiative.
    You must admit that he is a very entertaining actor. His inflections and the raising and lowering of his voice is a natural talent!
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
    « Reply #38 on: April 10, 2019, 10:08:59 PM »
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  • You must admit that he is a very entertaining actor. His inflections and the raising and lowering of his voice is a natural talent!

    Agreed; he is in fact a talented speaker and story-teller.

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
    « Reply #39 on: April 10, 2019, 10:32:55 PM »
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  • "you may attend the Masses and receive the sacraments of Fr. Possant [Poisson] whom we have certified and guaranteed as being a valid priest due to conditional ordination. You may not attend the sacraments of those where there is a doubt." -- moran, passion sunday 2019
     
     "[The priests and bishops of the SSPX line] are highly invalid" -- moran 4th sunday after the epiphany.
     
     So Moran says Fr. Pfeiffer is "highly invalid" and you may not receive any sacraments from him.
     
     I wonder why the Pfeiffer followers still accept Moran AND receive sacraments from Fr. Pfeiffer, unless fr. Pfeiffer was "conditionally ordained" by this non-bishop along with "fr." Poisson. Hmm...

    Why should Fr Pfeiffer, Bp Williamson, Bp Zendejas, Fr Chazal or priests of the SSPX worry about an Orthodox bishop when the Orthodox split from the Catholic church a thousand years ago?

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
    « Reply #40 on: April 11, 2019, 08:28:46 AM »
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  • Why should Fr Pfeiffer, Bp Williamson, Bp Zendejas, Fr Chazal or priests of the SSPX worry about an Orthodox bishop when the Orthodox split from the Catholic church a thousand years ago?
    They shouldn't.  

    Problem is fr. Pfeiffer worked with this charlatan in 2015, supposedly split with him, brought him back in 2018, had "fr"poisson conditionally ordained by moran, and then supposedly split with him again.

    Fr. Pfeiffer is without a bishop (as is fr. Hewko) and he has a "seminary" and "convent" without a bishop.  These are all violations of canon law.  Fr. Pfeiffer knows it and is scrambling to find a bishop he can keep in his pocket, who will do his bidding.  Moran was the best he could find, willing to work with Mr. Hernandez (aka pablo, "el diablo, "lay exorcist", etc) and himself.

    A charlatan posing as a catholic bishop should be avoided at all costs.

    Although, moran might be better than the rumors i hear about fr. Pfeiffer's association with Ryan St Anne Scott Gevelinger.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_St._Anne_Scott



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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
    « Reply #41 on: April 12, 2019, 05:20:39 PM »
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  • http://thecatacombs.org/thread/2088/moran-declares-fr-hewko-excommunicated

    Admin: "These excommunications do nothing more than highlight the petty kingdom Moran rules in his own mind, condemning and sentencing with Draconian measures anyone who disagrees with him or who demonstrates the falsehoods he is promoting. God have mercy on him and anyone who is falling for this charade."

    Deus vult: "Well if we were to believe Moran then the ONLY clergy the faithful can approach for sacraments are from himself and Fr. Possant (sic), since the rector of OLMC doesn't have valid orders either coming from the SSPX. "

    Bethcline: "Yet another gift from the hands of our Blessed Mother to warn all these good Catholic' Resistance' families, whom she loves dearly, and give them, YET AGAIN, another opportunity to see first hand the absolute insanity in which Fr. Pfeiffer was leading us all. "

    You get the picture.

    These are laughable because they SUPPORTED and DEFENDED fr. Pfeiffer, Pablo, fr. Poisson, etc, for a LONG time, to the point of banning and not allowing anyone to write anything in opposition of their beliefs.

    Will they apologize to all the people who they insulted and banned from their forum for doing nothing other than trying to speak truth about olmc?  It will remain to be seen.


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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
    « Reply #42 on: April 13, 2019, 01:19:19 AM »
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  • You must admit that he is a very entertaining actor. His inflections and the raising and lowering of his voice is a natural talent!
    Nah he's really nondescript! Not a patch on Bernie the Pied Piper cuм puppeteer cuм ventriloquist . You are not old enough to have seen Smiley but our older bros in Hollywood should make a film Smiley2 starring Bernie.

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    Re: Fr. Pfeiffer's Moran excommunicates fr. Hewko
    « Reply #43 on: April 13, 2019, 07:00:59 AM »
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  • Nah he's really nondescript! Not a patch on Bernie the Pied Piper cuм puppeteer cuм ventriloquist . You are not old enough to have seen Smiley but our older bros in Hollywood should make a film Smiley2 starring Bernie.
    What is Smiley? I’ve never heard of it.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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