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Offline Matthew

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Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
« on: July 11, 2018, 08:56:26 PM »
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  • Pag  lia   rani


    We all need to learn how to spell the new Superior General's name so we don't all look like a bunch of fools or uneducated hicks that fell off a turnip truck.

    We can disagree with him and attack his liberalism all we want -- but let's respect his priesthood at least by trying to spell his name right. It is for our own good really -- we will appear more like those who know what they're talking about.

    I got it wrong a couple times myself. But I'm taking the time right now to learn it right. I invite all of you to join me.

    I went through the other thread announcing the new Superior General and corrected all the misspellings I found -- so I'm helping the cause by not allowing misspellings to get propagated at this early stage, when most people are just learning his name for the first time. I know how hard it is to UN-LEARN something once you learn it wrong.

    I agree with Incredulous that he does look a lot like Bishop Fellay.


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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #1 on: July 11, 2018, 10:46:32 PM »
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  • Pag  lia   rani


    We all need to learn how to spell the new Superior General's name so we don't all look like a bunch of fools or uneducated hicks that fell off a turnip truck.
    And just to make it a bit more challengining we need to know how to pronounce it. Don't pronounce it as Matthew has written it - broken it up in those parts. Then you will look silly as a cut snake.
    It's Pal ya rani
    As for the meaning: it's a person who deals in straw. Paglia meaning straw. 

    So there you have it! Don Da vee day Pal yar ani.


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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #2 on: July 11, 2018, 11:00:31 PM »
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  • And just to make it a bit more challengining we need to know how to pronounce it. Don't pronounce it as Matthew has written it - broken it up in those parts. Then you will look silly as a cut snake.
    It's Pal ya rani
    As for the meaning: it's a person who deals in straw. Paglia meaning straw.

    So there you have it! Don Da vee day Pal yar ani
    Matthew is probably thinking Spanish where the g would be pronounced.
    Pray for me, always.

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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #3 on: July 11, 2018, 11:11:20 PM »
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  • Learn the pronunciation e.g. from this video. Name is pronounced 9 seconds after the start of the video. (The video itself is of no interest.)





    MOD EDIT:
    You can click this link to go right to the 9 second mark:
    https://youtu.be/h0LMfkqQj5w?t=9s

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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #4 on: July 11, 2018, 11:14:44 PM »
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  • To make it easier to remember it's pronounced like palliative


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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #5 on: July 11, 2018, 11:45:49 PM »
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  • As for the meaning: it's a person who deals in straw. Paglia meaning straw.

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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #6 on: July 12, 2018, 08:09:41 AM »
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  • Matthew is probably thinking Spanish where the g would be pronounced.

    You're right -- I thought pronunciation wouldn't be an issue, because I was pronouncing it like Spanish or Latin.  So my post completely focused on spelling. Of course, spelling is the first hurdle. On CI, we can't hear anyone's pronunciation -- we can just see their spelling. And if you get the spelling wrong, you're REALLY going to destroy the pronunciation. So I still think spelling is first -- but correct pronunciation is a close second.

    I don't think Latin has any words with "glia" however.

    So this would be a new tidbit of Italian pronunciation, even for someone taught Ecclesiastical Latin (and the proper, St.Pius X-recommended, Italian, pronunciation of Latin)
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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #7 on: July 12, 2018, 08:26:30 AM »
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  • What would a person actually do for a living if they "dealt in straw"? Grow a type of grass and then cut it, bundle it, and sell it?

    If so, that would suggest going along with God's plan, not trying to rush things. You can't rush a crop of hay or straw. You have to let God send the rain and sun, and harvest it when it's ready, but not a day sooner.
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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #8 on: July 12, 2018, 12:34:38 PM »
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  • You're right -- I thought pronunciation wouldn't be an issue, because I was pronouncing it like Spanish or Latin.  So my post completely focused on spelling. Of course, spelling is the first hurdle. On CI, we can't hear anyone's pronunciation -- we can just see their spelling. And if you get the spelling wrong, you're REALLY going to destroy the pronunciation. So I still think spelling is first -- but correct pronunciation is a close second.

    I don't think Latin has any words with "glia" however.

    So this would be a new tidbit of Italian pronunciation, even for someone taught Ecclesiastical Latin (and the proper, St.Pius X-recommended, Italian, pronunciation of Latin)
    The Latin word palea is the root for Italian "paglia" and French "paille".  It is also related to the English word "pallet".

    The Latin word Anglia has "-glia" in it, but it is rare.

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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #9 on: July 12, 2018, 05:03:22 PM »
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  • What would a person actually do for a living if they "dealt in straw"? Grow a type of grass and then cut it, bundle it, and sell it?
    There's a fair bit of profit in horse feed here in the horse capital of the Great South Land, while we experience a winter drought.


    Regarding the "gli" sound, how about BERGOGLIO, - BER - GO - GLIO pron. Bergolyo

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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #10 on: July 12, 2018, 10:13:30 PM »
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  • In Italian, gl is pronounced ly,
    Pagliarani is pronounced
    pahl yee a RAHN ee



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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #11 on: July 12, 2018, 10:41:32 PM »
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  • Before you try to explain the pronunciation you should get the name right: It’s Pagliarani not Pagliar-i-ani. 8)

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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #12 on: July 12, 2018, 11:11:24 PM »
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  • That just means, that you are not the only one, who doesn’t know the name of the new Superior General: It’s Pagliarani. :popcorn:

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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #13 on: July 13, 2018, 08:47:13 AM »
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  • From my 2nd grade phonetics class, I'm tempted to pronounce his name as this:

                  Pag-li'ar-ani
    Pray the "middle word" is not a trait of his tenure as Superior General :pray:

    But, when working under the direction of the Menzingen brotherhood, it appears the "middle word" may be unavoidable :facepalm:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Fr. Pagliarani - Pag Lia RANI
    « Reply #14 on: July 13, 2018, 04:35:59 PM »
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  • Once again:

    The caption for the three clones says:

    The "Argentine trio" for the Argentine pope? Mons. De Galarreta is Spanish-Argentine, 
    Fr. Bouchacourt was superior of the district in Argentina, and Fr. Pagliariani was, until now, 
    director of the Argentine seminary of the FSSPX.





     

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