Author Topic: Fr. Niklaus Pflugers letter to Bishop Williamson (Read 22987 times)

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #50 on:** April 17, 2013, 12:31:42 PM »

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Is it all "internet rumour", VinnyF? You probably think it is.

John,

Why is it that when one exposes a potentially fabricated docuмent which has probably been altered to appear to nicely fit into a popular conspiracy theory, your first reaction is not "lets get to the truth" .. but rather "curse you for exposing the fabrication?"

Boy, Menzingen sure has you fooled, don't they?

I am just an engineer and it appears that someone tampered with a docuмent to ostensibly make it fit into the conspiracy. This entire thread was based on the great detective work that seemed to prove that this docuмent was purportedly written by Max and sent to Fr. Pfluger for publication. So if it turns out that this "proof" was fabricated, I wonder why and who would have to gain from it?

Read the (numerous) parts of the letter that kiss up to the Jews and compare them to Krah's comments about the Jews last year. The pro-Jєωιѕн junk in the letter sounds like something Krah would write.

ultrarigorist · « **Reply #51 on:** April 17, 2013, 12:33:22 PM »

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I am just an engineer and it appears that someone tampered with a docuмent to ostensibly make it fit into the conspiracy. This entire thread was based on the great detective work that seemed to prove that this docuмent was purportedly written by Max and sent to Fr. Pfluger for publication. So if it turns out that this "proof" was fabricated, I wonder why and who would have to gain from it?

OK Vinny, so please explain in painstakingly precise detail how this doc "appears" to have been tampered with. Get as technical as necessary, some pretty clever people will be checking your claims.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #52 on:** April 17, 2013, 12:35:51 PM »

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Attorney Krah recommended to you at least once to ask David Irving, a recognized expert in archives and until recently your mentor, what the facts are. You would not listen. That is hardly surprising, given that in the meantime Irving is not calling in question the mass-murder of millions of innocent Jews, including by gassing. On a different tack he is upholding abstruse theories on the side, but he is not so blind as to deny the obvious. But why go in for studying history ? You know it all without having to study, because you insist on your idea of reality. Idealism, as I said.

Here's the problem right here. Fr. Pfluger and the rest of the Neo-SSPX, being the liberal Judaizers that they are, consider Krah's opinion on the Jews to be more accurate than one of their (former) Bishops!

Have any of them bothered to read what St. John Chrysostom said about the Jews? Probably not. They'd prefer to keep their heads in the sand.

Quo Vadis Petre · « **Reply #53 on:** April 17, 2013, 12:39:00 PM »

In the end, VinnyF's argument is just a red herring. Even if Krah didn't send it to Fr. Pfluger (meaning Ethelred was wrong), that just means Fr. Pfluger's thinking is in line with Krah's in calling +Williamson anti-Semitic, conspiracy theorist in extremis, "h0Ɩ0cαųst denier," etc. and that the SSPX would be better off in having him expelled (which indeed happened last year), rather than risk the wrath of Jews. Either way, it doesn't look good at all for Fr. Pfluger.

John Grace · « **Reply #54 on:** April 17, 2013, 12:50:01 PM »

It's pointless engaging with VinnyF. To the likes of him, facts are internet rumour. All I will do for him is pray for him.