Author Topic: Fr Le Roux takes the 30 pieces of silver (Read 5161 times)

BrJoseph · « **Reply #20 on:** December 09, 2013, 07:07:14 PM »

Because they are just clowning around?

hollingsworth · « **Reply #21 on:** December 09, 2013, 07:11:15 PM »

John Grace:

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You seem to believe they care about Bishop Williamson. Take Ireland again. The SSPX youth group didn't even bother to turn up to greet him. They were down in Cork instead.

Most Irish greeted Fr Pfluger warmly. Most have no interest in an internal matter

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John, I have to wonder at this point, with all the cuмulative comments you've made about traditional Catholics there, if Ireland ever had a healthy Catholic tradition. On balance, it seems, they always have things bass-ackwards. I mean, how far do we have to go back in Irish history before we discover a healthy Irish Church? I grew up with folks like Bing Crosby and Barry Fitzgerald on the silver screen portraying Irish Catholics as a pretty nice, pastoral, sympathetic bunch. Now I don't know. Do they always get it wrong? I can understand not liking Bp. Williamson. He's English. But Fr. Pfluger? Fr. P. is a jerk, not because he's German, mind you, but because he's Fr. Pfluger. Maybe the Irish identify with this German priest, because Ireland, or at least a portion of the Irish population, was pretty cozy with the 3rd Reich during WWII. I don't know. I've always loved the Irish people, partly because I have a lot of Irish in me. I love Celtic music, Celtic songs, the Irish countryside. But man, it's getting pretty depressing now. I'm beginning to think my entire perception of the Irish is just a myth.

JPaul · « **Reply #22 on:** December 09, 2013, 08:12:13 PM »

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John Grace:
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You seem to believe they care about Bishop Williamson. Take Ireland again. The SSPX youth group didn't even bother to turn up to greet him. They were down in Cork instead.

Most Irish greeted Fr Pfluger warmly. Most have no interest in an internal matter
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John, I have to wonder at this point, with all the cuмulative comments you've made about traditional Catholics there, if Ireland ever had a healthy Catholic tradition. On balance, it seems, they always have things bass-ackwards. I mean, how far do we have to go back in Irish history before we discover a healthy Irish Church? I grew up with folks like Bing Crosby and Barry Fitzgerald on the silver screen portraying Irish Catholics as a pretty nice, pastoral, sympathetic bunch. Now I don't know. Do they always get it wrong? I can understand not liking Bp. Williamson. He's English. But Fr. Pfluger? Fr. P. is a jerk, not because he's German, mind you, but because he's Fr. Pfluger. Maybe the Irish identify with this German priest, because Ireland, or at least a portion of the Irish population, was pretty cozy with the 3rd Reich during WWII. I don't know. I've always loved the Irish people, partly because I have a lot of Irish in me. I love Celtic music, Celtic songs, the Irish countryside. But man, it's getting pretty depressing now. I'm beginning to think my entire perception of the Irish is just a myth.

The Irish are another demoralized and patholigized population just like the Germans. Another deracinated ruined nation in thrall to Jєωιѕн bankers and Jєωιѕн inspired moral disintegration. All of what is described above is the result of it. The most Catholic of peoples are now the most estranged from it now.
Look at France, Spain, and Italy. Follow the string back to the ѕуηαgσgυє.

magdalena · « **Reply #23 on:** December 12, 2013, 05:17:11 PM »

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Matthew please don't delete this!

Laughter is the best medicine!

How about this:

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John Grace · « **Reply #24 on:** December 12, 2013, 07:49:55 PM »

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John Grace:
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You seem to believe they care about Bishop Williamson. Take Ireland again. The SSPX youth group didn't even bother to turn up to greet him. They were down in Cork instead.

Most Irish greeted Fr Pfluger warmly. Most have no interest in an internal matter
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John, I have to wonder at this point, with all the cuмulative comments you've made about traditional Catholics there, if Ireland ever had a healthy Catholic tradition. On balance, it seems, they always have things bass-ackwards. I mean, how far do we have to go back in Irish history before we discover a healthy Irish Church? I grew up with folks like Bing Crosby and Barry Fitzgerald on the silver screen portraying Irish Catholics as a pretty nice, pastoral, sympathetic bunch. Now I don't know. Do they always get it wrong? I can understand not liking Bp. Williamson. He's English. But Fr. Pfluger? Fr. P. is a jerk, not because he's German, mind you, but because he's Fr. Pfluger. Maybe the Irish identify with this German priest, because Ireland, or at least a portion of the Irish population, was pretty cozy with the 3rd Reich during WWII. I don't know. I've always loved the Irish people, partly because I have a lot of Irish in me. I love Celtic music, Celtic songs, the Irish countryside. But man, it's getting pretty depressing now. I'm beginning to think my entire perception of the Irish is just a myth.

There has been a healthy Catholic tradition. The Irish church is an interesting topic. Regarding Bishop Williamson, he is liked here but I was rather surprised with the youth group. Perhaps they didn't want to involve themselves in an internal matter.

There should be an alliance between Ireland, England and Germany. With the resistance these three countries in particular must work together.

Regarding Fr Pfluger. Many probably didn't realise who he was as few have followed the crisis. Many like Cassini have stayed out of internal business. Not everybody has followed the happenings of recent times.

Regarding Ireland and the Third Reich, a recommended book is Douglas, R. M. Architects of the Resurrection: Ailtirí na hAiséirghe and the Fascist 'New Order' in Ireland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ailtir%C3%AD_na_hAis%C3%A9irghe

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Ailtirí na hAiséirghe (Irish pronunciation: [ˈalʲtʲiːɾʲi na ˈhaʃeːɾʲjə], meaning "Architects of the Resurrection") was a minor radical nationalist and fascist political party from Ireland, founded by Gearóid Ó Cuinneagáin in 1942.[1][2] The party sought to form a totalitarian Irish Christian corporatist state. Its objectives included the creation of a one-party state under the rule of an all-powerful leader; the criminalisation of the public use of the English language; discriminatory measures against Jews; the building-up of a massive conscript army; and the reconquest of Northern Ireland.

In the longer term, Aiséirghe aimed to make a fascist Ireland into a "missionary-ideological" state spreading its combination of totalitarian politics and Christian social principles worldwide.
An "organised group of αnтι-ѕємιтєs",[3] its sympathies were with the Axis powers. It was one of a wave of minor far right parties in 1940s Ireland that failed to achieve mainstream success, like the Monetary Reform Party.[4]
The party obtained no seats in the 1943 and 1944 general elections.[5] In the 1945 local government elections, however, Aiséirghe candidates won nine seats (out of 31 contested), gaining a total of more than 11,000 first-preference votes.

Its supporters included Ernest Blythe, Oliver J. Flanagan and James Joseph Walsh.[6] Seán Treacy,[7] the future Ceann Comhairle of Dáil Éireann, was a party member in the 1940s, as were the novelist Brian Cleeve,[8] the philosopher Terence Gray[9] and the broadcaster and author Breandán Ó hEithir.[7] Although never a member, Seán South was familiar with the group's publications.[10]
After an internal split in late 1945, Aiséirghe's influence weakened. It held its last formal meeting in 1958, though the party newspaper, Aiséirghe, continued to appear until the early 1970s.