Fr. Paul Kramer is teaching currently at the Resistance Seminary of the Hearts of Jesus and Mary (bamboo seminary) in the Philippines. This can be seen on his own Facebook as well as on Youtube.

Now it is public knowledge that for two years now Fr. Kramer has held that Benedict XVI is still pope and not Francis. Briefly before coming to this conclusion, Fr. Kramer was sedevacantist saying that Bergoglio was a heretic antipope. But as it is, Fr. Kramer holds Benedict to be the pope, publicly speaks and preaches about it, and names him in the Canon of his Mass.

So why does Fr. Chazal (who publicly professes Francis to be the pope) allow Fr. Kramer to teaching in a seminary which recognizes Francis to be the pope... can you imagine the madness of different priests using the same altar and naming different popes during their Mass, and teaching contradictory things to the seminarians?

So why, Fr. Chazal are you allowing this?

Fr. Paul Kramer is teaching currently at the Resistance Seminary of the Hearts of Jesus and Mary (bamboo seminary) in the Philippines. This can be seen on his own Facebook as well as on Youtube.

Now it is public knowledge that for two years now Fr. Kramer has held that Benedict XVI is still pope and not Francis. Briefly before coming to this conclusion, Fr. Kramer was sedevacantist saying that Bergoglio was a heretic antipope. But as it is, Fr. Kramer holds Benedict to be the pope, publicly speaks and preaches about it, and names him in the Canon of his Mass.

So why does Fr. Chazal (who publicly professes Francis to be the pope) allow Fr. Kramer to teaching in a seminary which recognizes Francis to be the pope... can you imagine the madness of different priests using the same altar and naming different popes during their Mass, and teaching contradictory things to the seminarians?

So why, Fr. Chazal are you allowing this?

Obediens - how do you know that Fr. Kramer is teaching at the seminary in Cebu? I came across the photos taken recently, but I took it that he was visiting the seminary.
 :rolleyes:

 Fr Kramer has been to the Phillipines for many years.
I never knew he held a sede position ever. While i was
on Facebook he spoke his mind well and was very sound.

The sede position is not the main problem with Fr. Kramer. He was ordained in the new rite (just like Jorge Bergoglio, whom he rejects as Pope) and when asked about it gets very defensive saying that "the church supplies". As far as I'm aware he has not submitted to conditional ordination (as I believe Fr. Grunner did), so he may not, in fact, be a priest at all....

He also promotes whacky ideas about Limbo, saying that aborted babies go to Heaven "because God gave light for every man who came into the world in order that he might be saved". This is not what the Church teaches regarding abortion. This was said to people on a Fr. Grunner conference in Tuy, Spain.

He also said to those people that St. Thomas Aquinas was not against co-habitation, as long as the couple were faithful to each other....  

When he was staying in Deirdre Manifolds house in Galway, Ireland, he also told people that he is a bankrupt and has filed Chapter 11 a few times...... hardly the disciplined paragon of virtue required of a seminary professor.....

If Fr. Chazal isn't more particular about his seminary, we could have Kentucky mark 2.....

Just a note in passing regarding how an independent priest today may find himself bankrupt.  The cause may not at all be personal negligence.... What about being victimized by unscrupulous pseudo church leaders? It is fortunate that Father Voigt apparently could afford advancing $22,000 for roof repairs in Kentucky when needed..... But who can afford never being paid back?I know nothing about Father Voigt's financial situation, and I know nothing about Father Kramer's history. But we should not jump to conclusions, right?

I agree!  We should pray for Fr. Kramer!  He has been right on so many things!  His many presentations made at conferences sponsored by the Fatima Center and Fr. Gruner are a gift.  Many of them are on youtube.  I, too, saw the video of his conversation with John B. Wells on "the pope from hell."  Fr. Kramer offered much valuable insight in that interview.

I agree with Fr. Kramer that Francis is not the pope - he is either an anti-pope, due to his departure from the dogmatic teachings of the Catholic  Faith on so many issues, OR he is not really validly elected pope at all - because Benedict was forced to resign.

Either way, Francis is leading many souls down a primrose path -- to hell.  Our Lady of Fatima warned us of this!

We need the voice to Fr. Kramer - especially with the passing of Fr. Gruner.  I am constantly looking for new youtube videos of Fr. Kramer's teachings.


 

I just don't see that it's a big deal.  We live in confusing times and what matters most is living your Faith, not who is or isn't the pope.  If Fr Kramer can help train seminarians in the True Faith, then God bless him.  It's getting to the point where we all need to put aside our petty differences and worry about larger issues - keeping the Faith alive and saving our souls.  

Pax - you think it is no big deal to be forming priests with instructors who believe that the current Pope is an anti-pope, or the former Pope is the real pope, and/or neither are Popes at all?

Not sure what kind of priests will result.

Quote from: AJNC

Gail - this video has been posted:



"Fr. Francois Chazal: Update on Fr. Paul Kramer, the Seminary, and the Philippine Missions Dec 2015"

AJNC - thank you - I stand corrected. The video was not available at the time I posted the comments above.

In the video, Fr. Chazal explains that Fr. Kramer's health has been really bad and so he hasn't been able to give him any classes, but that is his intention, eventually, for Fr. Kramer to teach classes there.

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Yes Fr. Suneel visited Australia/New Zealand in December. He is no longer in Australia. We were blessed to have him visit us.