Author Topic: Fr. Kevin Robinson (SSPX) sues New Jersey governor (Read 8389 times)

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #85 on:** May 04, 2020, 03:45:44 PM »

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Anyway, what is the "faith, true Mass, and sacraments" without the head of the Church?! Might as well become Orthodox, no?

The pope is the servant of the Faith, Mass and Sacraments. He has authority only if it is subjected to Divine Law. The Faith, Mass and Sacraments exist when there is no pope, or when the pope is bad, or if he is a saint. This is because the Church is Christ's Bride, of Divine origin, while the occupant of the papacy is merely human.
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To answer your question, "What is the Faith, Mass and Sacraments, without the head of the Church?" They are the essence of the Church, which still exist even if the head is temporarily gone or deficient. The Church can easily survive without a pope (in the short term, as history has shown); whilst without the mass/sacraments, the Church ceases to exist.

CatholicMonarchist · « **Reply #86 on:** May 04, 2020, 03:55:00 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 04, 2020, 03:36:37 PM

Your post from yesterday is irrelevant. We're debating this post => Reply #56 on: Today at 10:05:42 AM »

I presume you are referring to this?
-----The Pope and all of the Bishops in full communion with the Pope and by extension all of the Priests under the authority of said Bishops told us to stop attending Mass for the time being. If the aforementioned entities do not constitute the authority of "The Church" then I don't know what does.------
If yes, then please continue to read it and see if it supports your argument.

CatholicMonarchist · « **Reply #87 on:** May 04, 2020, 04:03:06 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 04, 2020, 03:45:44 PM

The pope is the servant of the Faith, Mass and Sacraments. He has authority only if it is subjected to Divine Law. The Faith, Mass and Sacraments exist when there is no pope, or when the pope is bad, or if he is a saint. This is because the Church is Christ's Bride, of Divine origin, while the occupant of the papacy is merely human.
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To answer your question, "What is the Faith, Mass and Sacraments, without the head of the Church?" They are the essence of the Church, which still exist even if the head is temporarily gone or deficient. The Church can easily survive without a pope (in the short term, as history has shown); whilst without the mass/sacraments, the Church ceases to exist.

The Pope is the visible head of the Church on earth. Pretending he does not exist for 60+ years is not possible within the Catholic system. Without a Pope, there are no Bishops, with no Bishops, there are no Priests, with no Priests there are no sacraments.

Who exactly determines the meaning and reality of scripture, divine law, and faith? You? Me? Our milkman? Maybe pop out your Denzinger and I'll pop out my Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma and we'll battle it out Pokemon style?

The Church cannot survive without a head. At that point, it is not Catholic.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #88 on:** May 04, 2020, 04:24:57 PM »

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I presume you are referring to this?

I quoted this sentence multiple times already. How could I refer to anything else? You're short-bus special.

CatholicMonarchist · « **Reply #89 on:** May 04, 2020, 04:30:13 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 04, 2020, 04:24:57 PM

I quoted this sentence multiple times already. How could I refer to anything else? You're short-bus special.

Apparently you have never heard of a rhetorical question. You are Cadillac lowrider special.

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