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Author Topic: Fr. Kevin Robinson (SSPX) sues New Jersey governor  (Read 8413 times)

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Offline CatholicMonarchist

Re: Fr. Kevin Robinson (SSPX) sues New Jersey governor
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2020, 05:06:18 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on May 02, 2020, 04:58:18 PM
Are you tipping your hand?

The priest should simply resume saying public Masses, without regard to the illegitimate intrusion of the temporal authority into the spiritual sphere.

One does not ask permission to do one’s duty.

Complying with these tyrannical police state measures only guarantees and emboldens their tyrannical police state, and further enslaves us.

What is needed to remedy the situation is widespread civil disobedience.
How is that illegitimate intrusion into the spiritual sphere when the mass by its very nature constitutes a physical and temporal set of actions undertaken by our bodies which are governed by both spiritual and physical realities?!

It is the duty of Catholics to obey temporal authority. Especially since what is being ordered is not contrary to moral or natural law. It is for the prevention of death and preservation of life which is more important than attending Holy Mass.

Disease prevention measures are not tyrannical by any stretch of the imagination, sir.

Civil disobedience for something like this is imprudent and potentially destabilizing nonsense.
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Fr. Kevin Robinson (SSPX) sues New Jersey governor
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2020, 05:12:14 PM »
Quote from: CatholicMonarchist on May 02, 2020, 05:06:18 PM
How is that illegitimate intrusion into the spiritual sphere when the mass by its very nature constitutes a physical and temporal set of actions undertaken by our bodies which are governed by both spiritual and physical realities?!

It is the duty of Catholics to obey temporal authority. Especially since what is being ordered is not contrary to moral or natural law. It is for the prevention of death and preservation of life which is more important than attending Holy Mass.

Disease prevention measures are not tyrannical by any stretch of the imagination, sir.

Civil disobedience for something like this is imprudent and potentially destabilizing nonsense.

You show an amazing ignorance of both the "doctrine of the two swords," and the "indirect power of the pope" (both of which dictate that in cases involving mixed matters/mutual interests, the power of the Church prevails, because spiritual matters are more important than temporal).

The contrary proposition is condemned in the Syllabus.

Troll alert.
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Offline CatholicMonarchist

Re: Fr. Kevin Robinson (SSPX) sues New Jersey governor
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2020, 05:16:25 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on May 02, 2020, 05:12:14 PM
You show an amazing ignorance of both the "doctrine of the two swords," and the "indirect power of the pope" (both of which dictate that in cases involving mixed matters/mutual interests, the power of the Church prevails (because spiritual matters are more important than temporal).

The contrary proposition is condemned in the Syllabus.

Troll alert.
Apparently you show an ignorance of what "trolling" means. You seem to be mistaking the conecpt with another word otherwise known as "disagreement."

Contrary to your frequently posted threads, not everything is a conspiracy.

As for the doctrine of the two swords, it is you, sir, who displays lack of knowledge. Please read Pope Boniface VIII's Unam Sanctam and tell me how this would apply today when we have Pope Francis himself enforcing exactly what you are arguing against?!!!!
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Fr. Kevin Robinson (SSPX) sues New Jersey governor
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2020, 05:22:43 PM »
Quote from: CatholicMonarchist on May 02, 2020, 05:16:25 PM
Apparently you show an ignorance of what "trolling" means. You seem to be mistaking the conecpt with another word otherwise known as "disagreement."

Contrary to your frequently posted threads, not everything is a conspiracy.

As for the doctrine of the two swords, it is you, sir, who displays lack of knowledge. Please read Pope Boniface VIII's Unam Sanctam and tell me how this would apply today when we have Pope Francis himself enforcing exactly what you are arguing against?!!!!

You are saying that because Francis is a traitor, Unam Sanctam does not apply.

That is idiotic.
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Offline CatholicMonarchist

Re: Fr. Kevin Robinson (SSPX) sues New Jersey governor
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2020, 05:27:28 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on May 02, 2020, 05:22:43 PM
You are saying that because Francis is a traitor, Unam Sanctam does not apply.

That is idiotic.
I agree Pope Francis has betrayed the Church, but that does not mean I have the authority to determine when Unam Sanctam does or does not apply and with all due respect that lack of authority applies to you as well.
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