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Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2014, 07:46:45 PM »
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    This video is private.

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    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
    « Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 09:57:09 PM »
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    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
    « Reply #3 on: November 19, 2014, 02:09:51 AM »
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  • Could someone find the quote of Bp Williamson that Fr Pfeiffer refers to at 9:30 in this video?

    Here's the link to the Bp Williamson Q&A. I (re)listened to the part I thought was the relevent section, but couldn't find it.
    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Bishop-Williamsons-Conference-110514

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    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
    « Reply #4 on: November 19, 2014, 01:49:31 PM »
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    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
    « Reply #5 on: November 21, 2014, 10:00:34 AM »
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  • Fr Joseph Pfeiffer asks someone in the audience to confirm that the Jains leave their dead on the rooftop at Jogeshwari, Mumbai and the crows clean them off. It seems that the someone - Suneel Reddy the seminarian ? - confirms this. But Suneel is from south India, not Mumbai. The Jains, wherever they are, cremate their dead. The Parsees, leave their dead out in the open, in approved locations, for nature to take it's toll on the corpses. In Mumbai, the corpses are kept at the Tower of Silence at Malabar Hill. Concerning the two nice taxi drivers, one a Muslim and the other a Hindu, he knows in India, all I can say is that they may be nice only because FrP is a very nice tipper indeed!

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    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
    « Reply #6 on: November 21, 2014, 04:39:32 PM »
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    Could someone find the quote of Bp Williamson that Fr Pfeiffer refers to at 9:30 in this video?

    Here's the link to the Bp Williamson Q&A. I (re)listened to the part I thought was the relevent section, but couldn't find it.
    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Bishop-Williamsons-Conference-110514

    Thanks!


    No, I don't think anyone can, because it doesn't exist.  Fr. Pfeiffer completely misrepresents what Bp. Williamson said here.  There is one instance where Bp. Williamson does misspeak, and says "I do not say to everybody inside the Novus Ordo priests or laity I don’t say: 'you’ve got to get out...'”
    But it is clear from the context that he meant to say "SSPX" - i.e. "I do not say to everybody inside the SSPX, priests or laity, I don’t say 'you’ve got to get out.'”

    You can tell from the context that is what he meant, partly because that is the question he was answering (whether priests or laity should stay with the SSPX), partly because he had just been comparing the situation with the Novus Ordo, but especially because when, in the next sentences, he says
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    what I do say is there is a very serious danger of your being poisoned by a poison which is coming steadily (and) from above .  And it’s very poisonous. It gives you the idea that the NewChurch is alright or that going along with the Newchurch is alright which is more or less the same thing.  It’s okay for us to be heading back into the Conciliar church; oh they don’t say it’s the Conciliar church of course; oh no no no – it’s okay to be heading back – we’re going back into being Catholics in the mainstream church.

    We want to be Catholics again - that’s what they feel.  They’re going by their feelings.  If they used their minds, just like Archbp. Lefebvre they’d realize that the structure is empty of one, holy catholic and apostolic.


    Obviously, if in the next sentences he's speaking of "going along with the Newchurch is alright", he is not speaking of people still in Newchurch.  

    And I've listened several times, trying to catch where he says anything to the effect that it's okay to stay in the N.O. because people get something out of it, or that because they're nice.  Fr. Pfeiffer is now resorting to a lot of lies - ahem - misrepresentation to try to make his case.  


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    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
    « Reply #7 on: November 21, 2014, 11:05:14 PM »
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  • Thanks, opn. I came to the same conclusions.

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    And I've listened several times, trying to catch where he says anything to the effect that it's okay to stay in the N.O. because people get something out of it, or that because they're nice.  Fr. Pfeiffer is now resorting to a lot of lies - ahem - misrepresentation to try to make his case.  



    Yes, this.
    It wasn't simply that he was latching on to something the Bishop misspoke. Even if you think he said what he intended, Bp Williamson still didn't say what Fr Pfeiffer is attributing to him.
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    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
    « Reply #8 on: November 21, 2014, 11:10:26 PM »
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  • What's the nicest way to point out that you don't coincidentally come up in Fr Pfeiffer's Mass rotation the week after Bp Williamson is in your area?
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    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
    « Reply #9 on: November 22, 2014, 03:48:41 AM »
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  • LOOKS LIKE HE ANSWERED QUESTION NUMBER #5, EVEN IF ONLY INDIRECTLY.... :surprised:
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
    « Reply #10 on: November 22, 2014, 09:23:46 AM »
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  • At 10:27 Fr. Pfeiffer say that the people who may be benefitting from the New Mass are only possibly benefitting because they "are believing something other than the garbage that is going on on the altar...."

    Then later he says that it is a valid (but illicit) Mass.  So what is going on on the altar? A valid consecration is garbage accoring to him!  I mean I don't know if that's what he meant, but he should watch his words, especially in this critical tone that he has taken against the good bishop.....
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
    « Reply #11 on: November 22, 2014, 11:47:49 AM »
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  • Not the first time he's been loose with the truth.  

    Remember how saying that the New Mass was "legitimately promulgated" was changed into the New Mass being "legitimate" simply?  

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    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
    « Reply #12 on: November 22, 2014, 11:57:08 AM »
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    Not the first time he's been loose with the truth.  

    Remember how saying that the New Mass was "legitimately promulgated" was changed into the New Mass being "legitimate" simply?  




    He also stated that another priest states that you may not attend the SSPX Mass and this priest doesn't say that.  I am starting to see a pattern.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
    « Reply #13 on: November 22, 2014, 12:00:05 PM »
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  • The address of Fr. Pfeiffer's house (?)...... 1730 N Stillwell Rd. Boston, KY 40107-8666.                :stare:
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer in St. Catharines, Ont. - Saturday November 15 2014
    « Reply #14 on: November 22, 2014, 12:01:33 PM »
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  • I made it through about 30 minutes of this conference.  I couldn't bring myself to spend another hour listening to him.  What was worse, the audience didn't challenge him on anything he said.  When asked about needing a Bishop for ordinations, confirmations, etc., his reply was, "God will provide".  What?  In other words, we have a Bishop that isn't to our liking, therefore, God will provide one who is!  Sure, He will.