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Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
« Reply #120 on: February 18, 2020, 12:52:23 PM »
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    • Even though I know what he is capable of in his reactions.... this seems like a bit of a stretch.  I want to give him the benefit of the doubt that the email was not from him and that he wouldn't  be so self destructive.  If it is true however we know he doesn't keep things private that should be kept private like the phone call between he and +BW back in 2012. He aired that for everyone to hear and it was a private conversation so please...... What I would love to know is what is in the mind or lack thereof, of those foolish "perpetual seminarians" and their sponsors?  How long will they go along with this circus?  I mean can you imagine being one of the parents paying for tuition not knowing if they will even get minor orders ever.   :facepalm:  
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #121 on: February 18, 2020, 03:14:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on February 18, 2020, 12:51:44 PM
    Think so?

    Here are the words of a young neo-SSPXer who thought nothing of being married by a conciliar priest (?) in a conciliar church:

    “This next generation is free from the bitterness and resentment that it's predecessors are carrying. We grew with a love of the Catholic Church, a sadness to see it sick and divided, but above all a willingness stand up and fix it! In the meantime, feel free to call out heretics left and right like a self-proclaimed pope. I'll be right there in to NO churches doing my little part to "Restore all things in Christ" like our patron's motto says.”
    https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/headline-news-around-the-world/item/3807-sspx-and-the-novus-ordo-a-new-spirit-of-cooperation

    This young man obviously distinguishes between the old SSPX and the neo-SSPX (judging the former to be “bitter” and counterproductive, but the neo-SSPX no longer fighting, but “helping”).

    To him, fighting modernism and modernists = bad for the Church.

    Cooperating with them = good for the Church.

    In 16th century England, this generation of authority divorced from truth (aka legalism) would have made him an Anglican.

    Exactly the opposite of the “bitter” +Lefebvre.

    It is very obvious that this young man (the product of legalism + branding) is typical of the majority mindset in the SSPX today (proven by observing how few oppose marital delegation by the conciliar bishops, and the near-absence of anti-modernist polemics by clergy or faithful, among many additional indicators), and he is the first to point out the difference between his generation of limp non-resisters, and the previous generation of fighters.

    In my day, this type of fake trad was only found in the Ecclesia Dei communities.

    That the SSPX has lost the spirit of combat couldn’t be any plainer.

    They are castrated, defeated men, licking the boots of their conciliar authorities (recognizing, but resisting nothing) in their mania to “cure” their “canonical abnormality,” and this has resulted in them making the Resistance their greatest enemy:

    Woe to him who stands in between legalization and the SSPX!
    Who is this man to speak for young SSPXers? I’m a young SSPXer and I see his comments as ridiculous. ( I endorse the letter written by the 7 Deans on the marriage situation) Don’t broad brush.
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #122 on: February 18, 2020, 05:53:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Banezian on February 18, 2020, 03:14:24 PM
    Who is this man to speak for young SSPXers? I’m a young SSPXer and I see his comments as ridiculous. ( I endorse the letter written by the 7 Deans on the marriage situation) Don’t broad brush.
    Do other young men at your parish share the same concerns you have about the marriage agreement?

    Have you voiced your opposition to your Priest, District Superior or the General Superior?
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #123 on: February 18, 2020, 05:54:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Banezian on February 18, 2020, 03:14:24 PM
    Who is this man to speak for young SSPXers? I’m a young SSPXer and I see his comments as ridiculous. ( I endorse the letter written by the 7 Deans on the marriage situation) Don’t broad brush.
    Then you are at odds with the leadership and official positions of the SSPX (and if praxis is any indicator, with 99% of the SSPX clergy and 90% of the faithful).
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #124 on: February 18, 2020, 07:53:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: Banezian on February 18, 2020, 10:52:36 AM
    You sound like a moron. Read what Fr. Pagliarani has actually said
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwitpJzjx9vnAhU1hHIEHcLFC2wQxfQBCCgwAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffsspx.news%2Fen%2Fchurch-its-head-50632&usg=AOvVaw1HbFtHwPFofHTDAGdGCxV0
    Settle down young fella, I’ve been attending SSPX Masses for over 35 years....I remember when they shouted from the roof tops against the sacrilege committed at NO “ Masses”.  I remember pilgrimages of reperation for the many sins and blasphemies committed against Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, I’ll never forget +Williamson talking about the great sins of omission and that by NOT pointing out these sins and shouting them out to protect souls.  Actions speak louder than words young fella.  Until I see the SG leading a pilgrimage of all his priests demanding that the NO church stop the sacrilege of Communion in the hand, and allowing unconsicrated hands from touching the Sacred Species , then maybe, just maybe, I’ll start to believe the SSPX is truly returning to the true faith.  Actions speak louder than words.  Words without actions are like meat on a deadman’s grave!
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #125 on: February 18, 2020, 08:13:01 PM »
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    • For some reason I wasn’t able to edit the above on my phone....

    +Williamson said the SSPX would create a great sin of omission if they did not shout out the scandals and abuses from Modernist Rome.  

    Demand that Modernist Rome STOP allowing unconsecrated hands to touch the Sacred Species (now wether Tran substantiation actually takes place is another issue) But, if the Modernist truly believe that that is the Body and Blood of Our Lord, as they say they do, the SSPX should demand they not distribute it like potatoe chips at a party.  You know the ol’ Lex Orendi et Lex Credendi thing....

    Oh ya, they don’t preach about that too much anymore  either!
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #126 on: February 18, 2020, 08:26:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on February 18, 2020, 12:51:44 PM
    Think so?

    Here are the words of a young neo-SSPXer who thought nothing of being married by a conciliar priest (?) in a conciliar church:

    “This next generation is free from the bitterness and resentment that it's predecessors are carrying. We grew with a love of the Catholic Church, a sadness to see it sick and divided, but above all a willingness stand up and fix it! In the meantime, feel free to call out heretics left and right like a self-proclaimed pope. I'll be right there in to NO churches doing my little part to "Restore all things in Christ" like our patron's motto says.”
    https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/headline-news-around-the-world/item/3807-sspx-and-the-novus-ordo-a-new-spirit-of-cooperation

    This young man obviously distinguishes between the old SSPX and the neo-SSPX (judging the former to be “bitter” and counterproductive, but the neo-SSPX no longer fighting, but “helping”).

    To him, fighting modernism and modernists = bad for the Church.

    Cooperating with them = good for the Church.

    In 16th century England, this generation of authority divorced from truth (aka legalism) would have made him an Anglican.

    Exactly the opposite of the “bitter” +Lefebvre.

    It is very obvious that this young man (the product of legalism + branding) is typical of the majority mindset in the SSPX today (proven by observing how few oppose marital delegation by the conciliar bishops, and the near-absence of anti-modernist polemics by clergy or faithful, among many additional indicators), and he is the first to point out the difference between his generation of limp non-resisters, and the previous generation of fighters.

    In my day, this type of fake trad was only found in the Ecclesia Dei communities.

    That the SSPX has lost the spirit of combat couldn’t be any plainer.

    They are castrated, defeated men, licking the boots of their conciliar authorities (recognizing, but resisting nothing) in their mania to “cure” their “canonical abnormality,” and this has resulted in them making the Resistance their greatest enemy:

    Woe to him who stands in between legalization and the SSPX!
    Very good post.
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #127 on: February 19, 2020, 12:51:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on February 18, 2020, 07:53:29 PM
    Settle down young fella, I’ve been attending SSPX Masses for over 35 years....I remember when they shouted from the roof tops against the sacrilege committed at NO “ Masses”.  I remember pilgrimages of reperation for the many sins and blasphemies committed against Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, I’ll never forget +Williamson talking about the great sins of omission and that by NOT pointing out these sins and shouting them out to protect souls.  Actions speak louder than words young fella.  Until I see the SG leading a pilgrimage of all his priests demanding that the NO church stop the sacrilege of Communion in the hand, and allowing unconsicrated hands from touching the Sacred Species , then maybe, just maybe, I’ll start to believe the SSPX is truly returning to the true faith.  Actions speak louder than words.  Words without actions are like meat on a deadman’s grave!
    The SSPX does not need to follow your standard to be a serious Traditional organization. They don’t need to shout anything from the rooftops. They condemn Vatican 2( religious liberty, ecuмenism, collegiality, etc) and that is 3nough. Being Catholic isn’t all about polemics
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #128 on: February 19, 2020, 12:52:32 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on February 18, 2020, 05:53:51 PM
    Do other young men at your parish share the same concerns you have about the marriage agreement?

    Have you voiced your opposition to your Priest, District Superior or the General Superior?
    I have discussed it with priests and they all say I may hold the position I hold
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #129 on: February 19, 2020, 07:41:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Banezian on February 19, 2020, 12:51:11 AM
    The SSPX does not need to follow your standard to be a serious Traditional organization. They don’t need to shout anything from the rooftops. They condemn Vatican 2( religious liberty, ecuмenism, collegiality, etc) and that is 3nough. Being Catholic isn’t all about polemics
    Prayer without works is like meat on a deadman’s grave.  The law of prayer is the law of belief.  When you no longer openly condemn sacrilege and abuse against Our Lords most Precious Body and Blood and openly accept priests and Bishops without requiring they repent of these past abuses of Our Lords most Sacred Species, you commit a grave sin of omission and greatly scandalize the faithful.
    Mary Help of Christians....Pray for us!
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #130 on: February 19, 2020, 10:08:04 AM »
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    • Quote from: Banezian on February 19, 2020, 12:52:32 AM
    I have discussed it with priests and they all say I may hold the position I hold
    It appears that they disagreed with your position. 

    Now back to the other question, Do other young men at your parish share the same concerns you have about the marriage agreement?
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #131 on: February 19, 2020, 10:44:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on February 19, 2020, 10:08:04 AM
    It appears that they disagreed with your position.

    Now back to the other question, Do other young men at your parish share the same concerns you have about the marriage agreement?
    There’s only one other young man at my parish and I’ve never asked him about what he thinks on this. There are a number of faithful I know at various chap3ld who share my views. That’s why I said don’t broad brush
    One of our priests(fairly young) recently gave a conference after Mass condemning the New Mass. I’m sorry, but this narrative about the SSPX going liberal doesn’t hold up
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #132 on: February 19, 2020, 11:24:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: Banezian on February 19, 2020, 10:44:16 AM
    There’s only one other young man at my parish and I’ve never asked him about what he thinks on this. There are a number of faithful I know at various chap3ld who share my views. That’s why I said don’t broad brush
    One of our priests(fairly young) recently gave a conference after Mass condemning the New Mass. I’m sorry, but this narrative about the SSPX going liberal doesn’t hold up
    :laugh1: :laugh2: :popcorn:
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #133 on: February 19, 2020, 12:16:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Banezian on February 19, 2020, 12:51:11 AM
    The SSPX does not need to follow your standard to be a serious Traditional organization. They don’t need to shout anything from the rooftops. They condemn Vatican 2( religious liberty, ecuмenism, collegiality, etc) and that is 3nough. Being Catholic isn’t all about polemics
    Thank you for your previous reply about the marriage agreement. Now regarding you statement: "They condemn Vatican 2( religious liberty, ecuмenism, collegiality, etc) and that is enough."

    Would you like to qualify or expand  that statement OR do you actually mean that as long as they (SSPX) condemns Vatican II and the problems within the counsel docuмents, that is enough?
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #134 on: February 19, 2020, 01:30:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mr G on February 19, 2020, 12:16:55 PM
    Thank you for your previous reply about the marriage agreement. Now regarding you statement: "They condemn Vatican 2( religious liberty, ecuмenism, collegiality, etc) and that is enough."

    Would you like to qualify or expand  that statement OR do you actually mean that as long as they (SSPX) condemns Vatican II and the problems within the counsel docuмents, that is enough?
    What I mean is that as long as they condemn those things, no other problems should arise that are of any importance. Part of condemning religious liberty, ecuмenism, and collegiality  means NOT associating with people who accept them( ie Conciliarists  ) Fr. Gleize has given solid reasons for opposing agreement with Rome( and he’s the one they sent out to talk to Rome.)

    I can understand disagreeing with some of the Society’s prudential decisions but to say it’s gone Liberal is disingenuous 
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