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Offline Banezian

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Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
« Reply #105 on: February 12, 2020, 08:21:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on February 11, 2020, 01:37:54 PM
    Those who stay in the Novus Ordo, FSSP, diocesan Indult, etc. at least don't have a problem with the Conciliar Church. They see no major Crisis, just a few "implementation hiccups" that took place at Vatican II. So their truck/commerce with the Conciliar Church is understandable.

    The group I describe -- dogmatic home aloners -- who stay aloof     from the whole world of Tradition, despite a full acknowledgement to the Crisis in the Church and the evils of Vatican II, is sick and boggles my mind. It's the worst kind of error.
    That isnt necessarily true. Have you listened to some of the sermons on Sensus Fidelium? Fai4 bit 9f anti-V2/anti-Modernist sentiment am9ng those priests. FSSP/Indult is a very m8xed bag. ( some Modernists, but also some priests and faithful who are very Traditional)
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #106 on: February 12, 2020, 08:35:56 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on February 12, 2020, 08:21:28 AM
    It's up to you to provide proof and post it, in order to back up your claim. I'm not going to research anything.

    What exactly is your motive for posting here? Are you trying to point out the excesses that exist in Tradition? If, so, then I, for one, am already aware of the excesses. One needn't go any further than this forum to see the problems that exist in Tradition. But one must be honest in their assessment of what constitutes excess (or error?).
     If you want the information you will have to put in a little effort.  Good luck to you.  
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #107 on: February 12, 2020, 09:42:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: St Peter on February 12, 2020, 07:40:44 AM
    Can. 265 Every cleric must be incardinated either in a particular church or personal prelature, or in an institute of consecrated life or society endowed with this faculty, in such a way that unattached or transient clerics are not allowed at all.

    It was the same person who used the term transient clerics who also said "In a crisis of the Church, canon law is not thrown out the window! "

    I agree with you 100% that there are plenty of legit orders and bishops around for priests to choose from, but it is not just about the priest choosing.  The bishop/order must also accept the priest.

    For example, Fr. Pfeiffer says his superior is b. Fellay.  Fr. Pfeiffer can say it all he wants, but it doesn't make it so.  B. Fellay has made it perfectly clear that fr. Pfeiffer is no longer sspx and no longer his subordinate.
    Are the other two priests you mentioned, Fathers Hewko and Raphael also in this same category of transient/vagus priests?
    Is Can.265 from the code of canon law of 1983 or of another?

    Thank you very much for your help and God Bless you.
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #108 on: February 12, 2020, 10:04:17 AM »
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    • Quote from: ARMCHAIR Theologian on February 12, 2020, 09:42:43 AM
    Are the other two priests you mentioned, Fathers Hewko and Raphael also in this same category of transient/vagus priests?
    Is Can.265 from the code of canon law of 1983 or of another?

    Thank you very much for your help and God Bless you.
    Yes, they are, for they have no superior and are not members of an order/diocese.  The following are other transient clerics I am aware of: Fr. Vargas, Fr. Ruiz, "Fr." Poisson, Fr. Roberts, and "Fr" Cordaro.  

    1983 #265 is 1917 #111

    Thank you for the blessing.  I sure need it.
    God bless you, too.
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #109 on: February 16, 2020, 05:18:17 PM »
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    • I have it on good authority ( as in 100% certain) that Fr. Pfeiffer went to STAS Seminary last week( went into the chapel with his seminarians and was promptly kicked out) This after all of his attacks against the SSPX.

    He’s gone crazy
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #110 on: February 16, 2020, 07:53:24 PM »
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    • What is STAS?
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #111 on: February 16, 2020, 07:58:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: donkath on February 16, 2020, 07:53:24 PM
    What is STAS?

    St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary (STAS), the SSPX Seminary ... formerly in Winona, MN and now in Virginia.
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #112 on: February 16, 2020, 08:00:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Banezian on February 16, 2020, 05:18:17 PM
    I have it on good authority ( as in 100% certain) that Fr. Pfeiffer went to STAS Seminary last week( went into the chapel with his seminarians and was promptly kicked out) This after all of his attacks against the SSPX.

    He’s gone crazy

    Was he trying to pull a "St. Nicolas du Chardonette"?
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #113 on: February 16, 2020, 08:01:11 PM »
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    • Father Pfeiffer exhibited a lot of rage in his letter.  In his infamous sermon, he claimed that all rage was due to a certain sin against impurity.
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #114 on: February 16, 2020, 11:08:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Banezian on February 16, 2020, 05:18:17 PM
    I have it on good authority ( as in 100% certain) that Fr. Pfeiffer went to STAS Seminary last week( went into the chapel with his seminarians and was promptly kicked out) This after all of his attacks against the SSPX.

    He’s gone crazy
    Truly bizarre.  Why would he do such a thing?  It has been nearly eight years since he was kicked out.  It seems to me that the point of his "Seminary" and existence is to criticize and prove the evils of the SSPX (and anyone else who doesn't agree with him), when it should be focused on spreading the Catholic Faith.  Having traveled all over the religious landscape before discovering Tradition, I can almost predict with 100% certainty he will find himself with two to zero parishioners.  When "church" splits occur, what holds the split off group together is "what is wrong with the place we left."  If this remains the focus and unifying factor, it's doomed.  The young people don't want to hear about the wicked people their parents left behind---to them it's ancient history, having no bearing on their present or future life.  How long before one tires of beating a dead horse?  So, the Society has gone down the Consiliar trail.  Let it be and move on.  
    What did Fr. hope to accomplish by dragging his band of disciples into the chapel?  Probably trying to get them worked up and upset for tossing them out?  If you truly think you have pearls, you don't place them before swine.  The seminarians are put in the position of children whose divorced parents fight and feud in their presence over whose turn it is to take the kids this weekend.  
    Add to the situation a warlock...
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #115 on: February 17, 2020, 11:23:00 AM »
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    I believe Fr. Pfeiffer's nephew may have received tonsure on Feb 2nd. That may have been the reason for his visit to STAS, although it was still a very bad idea.
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #116 on: February 17, 2020, 01:20:15 PM »
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    Fr. Pfeiffer went to STAS Seminary last week( went into the chapel with his seminarians
    Was this a scheduled "field trip" for Fr Pfeiffer's seminary?  Or did they have classes at the airport during layovers?  :laugh1:
    How are they able to afford such a trip?  How many of Fr's "merry men" went with him?
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #117 on: February 18, 2020, 07:48:34 AM »
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    •  “Young people don’t want to beat a dead horse”

    That is the exact reason I heard for the SSPX not standing up against Modernist Rome.  Young people were tired of hearing it....I can see that to a point, however the SSPX has totally lost the fight...now young people aren’t given anything to stand up for...no battle cry to defend the faith.

    Hundred year old stories of apparitions, visions and Saints is no longer real to them.  Before the SSPX gave them something to fight for.  The barking dog has become a whimpering puppy.
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #118 on: February 18, 2020, 10:52:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ekim on February 18, 2020, 07:48:34 AM
    “Young people don’t want to beat a dead horse”

    That is the exact reason I heard for the SSPX not standing up against Modernist Rome.  Young people were tired of hearing it....I can see that to a point, however the SSPX has totally lost the fight...now young people aren’t given anything to stand up for...no battle cry to defend the faith.

    Hundred year old stories of apparitions, visions and Saints is no longer real to them.  Before the SSPX gave them something to fight for.  The barking dog has become a whimpering puppy.
    You sound like a moron. Read what Fr. Pagliarani has actually said
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwitpJzjx9vnAhU1hHIEHcLFC2wQxfQBCCgwAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffsspx.news%2Fen%2Fchurch-its-head-50632&usg=AOvVaw1HbFtHwPFofHTDAGdGCxV0
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    Re: Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer has lost his mind?
    « Reply #119 on: February 18, 2020, 12:51:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Banezian on February 18, 2020, 10:52:36 AM
    You sound like a moron. Read what Fr. Pagliarani has actually said
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwitpJzjx9vnAhU1hHIEHcLFC2wQxfQBCCgwAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffsspx.news%2Fen%2Fchurch-its-head-50632&usg=AOvVaw1HbFtHwPFofHTDAGdGCxV0

    Think so?

    Here are the words of a young neo-SSPXer who thought nothing of being married by a conciliar priest (?) in a conciliar church:

    “This next generation is free from the bitterness and resentment that it's predecessors are carrying. We grew with a love of the Catholic Church, a sadness to see it sick and divided, but above all a willingness stand up and fix it! In the meantime, feel free to call out heretics left and right like a self-proclaimed pope. I'll be right there in to NO churches doing my little part to "Restore all things in Christ" like our patron's motto says.”
    https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/headline-news-around-the-world/item/3807-sspx-and-the-novus-ordo-a-new-spirit-of-cooperation

    This young man obviously distinguishes between the old SSPX and the neo-SSPX (judging the former to be “bitter” and counterproductive, but the neo-SSPX no longer fighting, but “helping”).

    To him, fighting modernism and modernists = bad for the Church.

    Cooperating with them = good for the Church.

    In 16th century England, this generation of authority divorced from truth (aka legalism) would have made him an Anglican.

    Exactly the opposite of the “bitter” +Lefebvre.

    It is very obvious that this young man (the product of legalism + branding) is typical of the majority mindset in the SSPX today (proven by observing how few oppose marital delegation by the conciliar bishops, and the near-absence of anti-modernist polemics by clergy or faithful, among many additional indicators), and he is the first to point out the difference between his generation of limp non-resisters, and the previous generation of fighters.

    In my day, this type of fake trad was only found in the Ecclesia Dei communities.

    That the SSPX has lost the spirit of combat couldn’t be any plainer.

    They are castrated, defeated men, licking the boots of their conciliar authorities (recognizing, but resisting nothing) in their mania to “cure” their “canonical abnormality,” and this has resulted in them making the Resistance their greatest enemy:

    Woe to him who stands in between legalization and the SSPX!
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