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Fr. Jenkins and Resistance Arch Lefebvre
« on: April 18, 2018, 09:11:17 PM »
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  • We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    Re: Fr. Jenkins and Resistance Arch Lefebvre
    « Reply #1 on: April 18, 2018, 10:50:12 PM »
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  • min 25 Fr. jenkins says that he is non una cum and never has been una cum.  And, that a traditional catholic cannot be "one in faith" with the pope.  But, the latin does not translate into that.  If just translates into "one with".  It doesn't translate "one in faith".  He also says min 27 that the resistance sspx clergy are explicit liars when it comes to the una cum and francis.  And, he says min 32 that the resistance sspx clergy are enemies of the catholic faith.  Yet, he still pretends that +Lefebvre and him are on good terms recalling jolly old occasions with him and quoting his early days with bias without realizing that his condemnation of the resistance bishops is a condemnation of the archbishop.  Fr. jenkins is the liar.  Fr. Jenkins is living in the past and a world created by his own ego.  The cspv/sspv are a stagnant divided society not exempt from serious scandal and have the nerve to say that the resistance clergy(bishops included) are enemies of the catholic faith.  Fr. jenkins is a fool.  He is a kiss up kick down con man like all the dogmatic vacantists he pretends to be so far from.
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    Re: Fr. Jenkins and Resistance Arch Lefebvre
    « Reply #2 on: April 18, 2018, 10:56:04 PM »
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  • Btw, does anyone else here think that Fr. Jenkins bleaches his hair silver/white/whatever color it is?  Look at this video, the roots sure look dark to me.  If you agree, what do you think could possibly be the reason or motivation for a trad "dignified" cleric to do this?

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    Re: Fr. Jenkins and Resistance Arch Lefebvre
    « Reply #3 on: April 19, 2018, 04:36:37 AM »
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  • min 25 Fr. jenkins says that he is non una cum and never has been una cum.  And, that a traditional catholic cannot be "one in faith" with the pope.  But, the latin does not translate into that.  If just translates into "one with".  It doesn't translate "one in faith".  He also says min 27 that the resistance sspx clergy are explicit liars when it comes to the una cum and francis.  And, he says min 32 that the resistance sspx clergy are enemies of the catholic faith.  Yet, he still pretends that +Lefebvre and him are on good terms recalling jolly old occasions with him and quoting his early days with bias without realizing that his condemnation of the resistance bishops is a condemnation of the archbishop.  Fr. jenkins is the liar.  Fr. Jenkins is living in the past and a world created by his own ego.  The cspv/sspv are a stagnant divided society not exempt from serious scandal and have the nerve to say that the resistance clergy(bishops included) are enemies of the catholic faith.  Fr. jenkins is a fool.  He is a kiss up kick down con man like all the dogmatic vacantists he pretends to be so far from.
    I don't believe Fr Jenkins even calls himself a sedevacantist.  
    If any one saith, that the ceremonies, vestments, and outward signs, which the Catholic Church makes use of in the celebration of masses, are incentives to impiety, rather than offices of piety; let him be anathema. - Council of Trent

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    Re: Fr. Jenkins and Resistance Arch Lefebvre
    « Reply #4 on: April 19, 2018, 11:53:18 AM »
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  • I don't believe Fr Jenkins even calls himself a sedevacantist.  
    Yeah, and messianic "yeshua" jews don't like the word jesus.  

    Fr. jenkins doesn't like being labelled a sedevacantist, but if you corner him well enough, he obviously holds most of their sentiments.  And, the "follow ones conscience" ticket is sacrilegious rendering you an enemy if used by sspx, indult, or NO, but it certainly comes in handy for him regarding his rejection of francis.  He puts it to good use.  Fr. Jenkins bad side is so easy to bait.  I have watched his show for years, and these offensive displays happen quite frequently, where fr. jenkins just has to get the last offensive word in to out-do the rude or ignorant(sometimes both) questioner posed to him.  That is really a sign of un professionalism, because nobody benefits.  If fr. jenkins knew anything about the resistance, he would know that they don't treat fr. jenkins theology as run of the mill vacantism.  They certainly don't endorse it, but they don't attribute to it what the email questioner said.  Because, fr. jenkins does not differ much in practice from fr. ringrose.  And, fr. jenkins ignorance of the resistance is what has fueled the hatred that he displayed in this video.  Has he reached out to speak with the resistance clergy to personally clarify this and the finer details?  That is doubtful, or else he would speak about it.  And, then we would hear it from the horses mouth.  Fr. chazal seems to be the only cleric out there who is willing to reach out and clarify disputes.  I repeat, "enemies of the catholic faith" is how fr. jenkins he sees the four resistance bishops.  Shameful.
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    Re: Fr. Jenkins and Resistance Arch Lefebvre
    « Reply #5 on: April 19, 2018, 02:17:00 PM »
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  • Relax, PG. There is no reason to bash Fr. Jenkins. If you do not like him or find him credible, then do not listen to his YouTube channel. Remember the 8th commandment before you put anything in writing.

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    Re: Fr. Jenkins and Resistance Arch Lefebvre
    « Reply #6 on: April 19, 2018, 04:15:47 PM »
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  • Yeah, and messianic "yeshua" jews don't like the word jesus.  

    Fr. jenkins doesn't like being labelled a sedevacantist, but if you corner him well enough, he obviously holds most of their sentiments.  And, the "follow ones conscience" ticket is sacrilegious rendering you an enemy if used by sspx, indult, or NO, but it certainly comes in handy for him regarding his rejection of francis.  He puts it to good use.  Fr. Jenkins bad side is so easy to bait.  I have watched his show for years, and these offensive displays happen quite frequently, where fr. jenkins just has to get the last offensive word in to out-do the rude or ignorant(sometimes both) questioner posed to him.  That is really a sign of un professionalism, because nobody benefits.  If fr. jenkins knew anything about the resistance, he would know that they don't treat fr. jenkins theology as run of the mill vacantism.  They certainly don't endorse it, but they don't attribute to it what the email questioner said.  Because, fr. jenkins does not differ much in practice from fr. ringrose.  And, fr. jenkins ignorance of the resistance is what has fueled the hatred that he displayed in this video.  Has he reached out to speak with the resistance clergy to personally clarify this and the finer details?  That is doubtful, or else he would speak about it.  And, then we would hear it from the horses mouth.  Fr. chazal seems to be the only cleric out there who is willing to reach out and clarify disputes.  I repeat, "enemies of the catholic faith" is how fr. jenkins he sees the four resistance bishops.  Shameful.
    Then why do you call him a dogmatic sedevacantist?  That's why I replied to your first post.  
    If any one saith, that the ceremonies, vestments, and outward signs, which the Catholic Church makes use of in the celebration of masses, are incentives to impiety, rather than offices of piety; let him be anathema. - Council of Trent

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    Re: Fr. Jenkins and Resistance Arch Lefebvre
    « Reply #7 on: April 19, 2018, 04:46:03 PM »
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  • Then why do you call him a dogmatic sedevacantist?  That's why I replied to your first post.  
    I never called him a dogmatic sedevacantist.  I called him a kiss up kick down con man "like" all the dogmatic vacantists.  They kiss up the papacy into idolatry when they are in favor of the occupant, but kick down the papacy into the mud when they are not in favor of the occupant.   They are of the same revolutionaries they claim to oppose.  What about Christ's promise?  It means nothing to fr. jenkins.
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    Re: Fr. Jenkins and Resistance Arch Lefebvre
    « Reply #8 on: April 20, 2018, 08:52:47 AM »
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  • I never called him a dogmatic sedevacantist.  I called him a kiss up kick down con man "like" all the dogmatic vacantists.  They kiss up the papacy into idolatry when they are in favor of the occupant, but kick down the papacy into the mud when they are not in favor of the occupant.   They are of the same revolutionaries they claim to oppose.  What about Christ's promise?  It means nothing to fr. jenkins.
    I didn't know that sedevacantists favored any of the post Vatican II papal occupants.

     

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