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Fr. James Haynos sermon - Post Falls
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2012, 09:57:23 PM »
Quote from: Maria Elizabeth
Quote from: Machabees
Earlier today I was informed by a friend who goes to the Post Falls Chapel, in which he said that Fr. James Haynos gave a very strong sermon on “OBEDIENCE to the Superior General” at the 9:am High Mass today.

My friend said the main points of Fr. Haynos’ sermon were about:

•   Hammering “Catholics” who contradict the direction of their priests, going around saying the SSPX is going liberal, and for not listening to the direction of your superiors who are trying to lead you and teach you.
•   The Pope is the authority, yes he says some bad things, but you must follow him.  Bishop Fellay is the authority, and you need to follow him.
•   You need to listen to your leaders and obey them.
•   He described that there is a resistance in Post Falls who are not obeying the priests and causing them difficulty.
•   The priest cannot do his work that his superiors want him to do.
•   The SSPX priests, who recently left, only criticize Bishop Fellay, the authority figure, with no substance other than that these priests say that the SSPX is going to go Novus Ordo tomorrow.

My friends Observations:

•   First time anything from the pulpit was said on the SSPX crisis.
•   With this being the first sermon in this issue, it was about hammering the faithful to obey the priest; and to obey Bishop Fellay who is the authority in the SSPX.
•   It was confirmed that the sermon was pre-approved by Fr. Vassal.

 :facepalm:         :kick-can:


All a sermon like this (as well as the elimination of the Cross Bearer position) will do is increase the support for Fr Pfeiffer's group.





Indeed!  

Perhaps these priests are now going to come out of the "closet".  Bring it on...we all will fight for the Faith!

Fr. James Haynos sermon - Post Falls
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2012, 11:22:01 PM »
Quote from: Sigismund
SSPX priests and religious, and I suppose Third Order members, owe Bishop Fellay obedience as long as they continue to be connected with the Society.


In the SSPX Third Order Rule, there is nothing about obedience to the SG of the SSPX.  


Fr. James Haynos sermon - Post Falls
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2012, 06:59:31 AM »
Quote from: Machabees
Earlier today I was informed by a friend who goes to the Post Falls Chapel, in which he said that Fr. James Haynos gave a very strong sermon on “OBEDIENCE to the Superior General” at the 9:am High Mass today.

My friend said the main points of Fr. Haynos’ sermon were about:

•   Hammering “Catholics” who contradict the direction of their priests, going around saying the SSPX is going liberal, and for not listening to the direction of your superiors who are trying to lead you and teach you.
•   The Pope is the authority, yes he says some bad things, but you must follow him.  Bishop Fellay is the authority, and you need to follow him.
•   You need to listen to your leaders and obey them.
•   He described that there is a resistance in Post Falls who are not obeying the priests and causing them difficulty.
•   The priest cannot do his work that his superiors want him to do.
•   The SSPX priests, who recently left, only criticize Bishop Fellay, the authority figure, with no substance other than that these priests say that the SSPX is going to go Novus Ordo tomorrow.

My friends Observations:

•   First time anything from the pulpit was said on the SSPX crisis.
•   With this being the first sermon in this issue, it was about hammering the faithful to obey the priest; and to obey Bishop Fellay who is the authority in the SSPX.
•   It was confirmed that the sermon was pre-approved by Fr. Vassal.

 :facepalm:         :kick-can:


Commentary:

1) You made a grave tactical error when you taught us how to distinguish between true and false obedience!

2) Unlike yourself, Fr Haynos, we did not forget the lesson!

3) If you are unashamed to utter such incompetent stupidities from the pulpit (presuming this report is accurate; my apologies if it is not), then let us have open war in the SSPX.

4) War in every chapel between truth and error.

5) Accordista betrayers and dupes on one side, and loyalists on the other.

6) Why don't you just join the FSSP, or start a new order called GREC?

7) You leave us no option but to organize and fight you from within.

8) And that is exactly what we are doing!

9) You are the revolutionaries.

10) We are the counter-revolutionaries.

11) You can (apparently) transfer loyalist priests to Antarctica, but your scare tactics have no power over us!

12) Because we are willing to be martyred, but you are not!

13) You can have Bishop Fellay and Fr Rostand.

14) We will take Archbishop Lefebvre and Fr. Barrielle.

14) You have planted your flag on the wrong side.

Fr. James Haynos sermon - Post Falls
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2012, 09:00:21 AM »
Bravo Seraphim.

Fr. James Haynos sermon - Post Falls
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2012, 09:02:54 AM »
Quote from: PAT317
Quote from: Sigismund
SSPX priests and religious, and I suppose Third Order members, owe Bishop Fellay obedience as long as they continue to be connected with the Society.


In the SSPX Third Order Rule, there is nothing about obedience to the SG of the SSPX.  


I've heard otherwise, from a Third Order member. He is an accordista, as far as I can tell, and said so during a discussion on obedience.