Author Topic: Fr. James Haynos sermon - Post Falls (Read 14099 times)

CWA · « **Reply #15 on:** December 31, 2012, 01:52:10 PM »

Quote from: AveMarisStella

... Get your weekly "Traditional Latin Mass Product and School".

:confused1:

Speaking of schools, has anyone mentioned that the Mass at the boys' school is no longer mandatory, so hardly any of the boys go, and that it is increasingly difficult to get to daily Mass at ICC, and certainly not on a regular schedule, because daily Mass times are constantly changing on a moment's notice?

AveMarisStella · « **Reply #16 on:** December 31, 2012, 01:59:37 PM »

Quote from: CWA

Speaking of schools, has anyone mentioned that the Mass at the boys' school is no longer mandatory, so hardly any of the boys go, and that it is increasingly difficult to get to daily Mass at ICC, and certainly not on a regular schedule, because daily Mass times are constantly changing on a moment's notice?

All part of The Plan™, my friend.

Again, welcome to the Church of Fellay™! :dancing-banana: :dancing-banana: All are welcome! (Except, you know, Catholics in the line of Archbishop Lefebvre.)

I hope all this nonsense continues, because it will, hopefully, become undeniable to the Zombies In The Pews™ that there IS a shift in the SSPX and the ship is sinking.

I thank Our Lady of Good Success for exposing all of this. The Resistance, through Our Lady will continue!

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #17 on:** December 31, 2012, 02:42:26 PM »

Quote from: CWA

Quote from: Machabees
Earlier today I was informed by a friend who goes to the Post Falls Chapel, in which he said that Fr. James Haynos gave a very strong sermon on “OBEDIENCE to the Superior General” at the 9:am High Mass today.

My friend said the main points of Fr. Haynos’ sermon were about:

•   Hammering “Catholics” who contradict the direction of their priests, going around saying the SSPX is going liberal, and for not listening to the direction of your superiors who are trying to lead you and teach you.
•   The Pope is the authority, yes he says some bad things, but you must follow him. Bishop Fellay is the authority, and you need to follow him.
•   You need to listen to your leaders and obey them.
•   He described that there is a resistance in Post Falls who are not obeying the priests and causing them difficulty.
•   The priest cannot do his work that his superiors want him to do.
•   The SSPX priests, who recently left, only criticize Bishop Fellay, the authority figure, with no substance other than that these priests say that the SSPX is going to go Novus Ordo tomorrow.

"Hammering" Catholics is the right word. He even said he'd be in the confessional immediately after, as if all the congregation needed to go confession (for not being blindly obedient to +F and co? :confused1:). This sermon fit well with Fr. Vassal's "Change is okay/Vatican II wasn't all bad, so you must eat the parts of the poison cake that aren't poison" catechism class a few weeks ago. I also find it interesting that Fr. Haynos did the sermon at all 3 Masses, even though Fr. Johnson offered one of them. Fr. H said other things too. e.g. He made a big deal about how the SSPX is still not Novus Ordo after all these years. (As if that proves the Resistance wrong.) He said the Archbishop only criticized little things in the New Mass. It is kind of sad, because Fr. H was reputed to have been a little more hard-line/Resistance-minded earlier this year.

As we're so many others......until push came to shove.

Matthew · « **Reply #18 on:** December 31, 2012, 02:49:02 PM »

Quote from: AveMarisStella

Quote from: Machabees
Earlier today I was informed by a friend who goes to the Post Falls Chapel, in which he said that Fr. James Haynos gave a very strong sermon on “OBEDIENCE to the Superior General” at the 9:am High Mass today.

Etc ....

UNBELIEVABLE.

But then, maybe not. This is the same priest who gave a sermon in the last couple of months where he said the Crisis in the Church is the fault of the laypeople.[/i]

Was this Archbishop Lefevbre's belief? I don't recall ever reading this in any of +AB Lefevbre's writings. Perhaps someone more knowledgable can inform me of this.

Also, the pastor and other priests there are preaching that we need to expose our children to sin/temptations, even possibly *grave* ones in order to "build their virtue".

Someone needs to inform this guy of that (see Sermon XXII pg. 90). Oh wait, he's been dead for over 200 years ....

This is why +W is right and that the SSPX has become a CULT. And no doubt everyone sat through yesterday's sermon and did nothing. Get your weekly "Traditional Latin Mass Product and School".

:confused1:

Wow. Just wow.

We can NEVER knowingly expose ourselves OR our children to temptation or occasions of sin, unless for the gravest of reasons.

Throwing someone into the ocean is NOT how to teach them to swim. Such foolishness.

Matthew · « **Reply #19 on:** December 31, 2012, 02:50:14 PM »

Quote from: Seraphim

Quote from: Machabees
Earlier today I was informed by a friend who goes to the Post Falls Chapel, in which he said that Fr. James Haynos gave a very strong sermon on “OBEDIENCE to the Superior General” at the 9:am High Mass today.

My friend said the main points of Fr. Haynos’ sermon were about:

•   Hammering “Catholics” who contradict the direction of their priests, going around saying the SSPX is going liberal, and for not listening to the direction of your superiors who are trying to lead you and teach you.
•   The Pope is the authority, yes he says some bad things, but you must follow him. Bishop Fellay is the authority, and you need to follow him.
•   You need to listen to your leaders and obey them.
•   He described that there is a resistance in Post Falls who are not obeying the priests and causing them difficulty.
•   The priest cannot do his work that his superiors want him to do.
•   The SSPX priests, who recently left, only criticize Bishop Fellay, the authority figure, with no substance other than that these priests say that the SSPX is going to go Novus Ordo tomorrow.

My friends Observations:

•   First time anything from the pulpit was said on the SSPX crisis.
•   With this being the first sermon in this issue, it was about hammering the faithful to obey the priest; and to obey Bishop Fellay who is the authority in the SSPX.
•   It was confirmed that the sermon was pre-approved by Fr. Vassal.

:kick-can:

Commentary:

1) You made a grave tactical error when you taught us how to distinguish between true and false obedience!

2) Unlike yourself, Fr Haynos, we did not forget the lesson!

3) If you are unashamed to utter such incompetent stupidities from the pulpit (presuming this report is accurate; my apologies if it is not), then let us have open war in the SSPX.

4) War in every chapel between truth and error.

5) Accordista betrayers and dupes on one side, and loyalists on the other.

6) Why don't you just join the FSSP, or start a new order called GREC?

7) You leave us no option but to organize and fight you from within.

8) And that is exactly what we are doing!

9) You are the revolutionaries.

10) We are the counter-revolutionaries.

11) You can (apparently) transfer loyalist priests to Antarctica, but your scare tactics have no power over us!

12) Because we are willing to be martyred, but you are not!

13) You can have Bishop Fellay and Fr Rostand.

14) We will take Archbishop Lefebvre and Fr. Barrielle.

14) You have planted your flag on the wrong side.

Testify!

I wholeheartedly agree.

This is WAR. WAR ON!