Quote from: J.Paul

I think that he is positing that the Extraordinary Magisterium is a frosting upon the truth which is expounded in the Ordinary. That is, that it will always be in perfect accord with the Ordinary but adds to it, the dimensions of complete and everlasting certainty and the character of Divine and immutable law.
The Magisteriums are never competing with one another. They are the same voice issuing from the same source, each serving the function proper to it.

The Extraordinary Magisterium serving to remove all doubt and possibility of erroneous interpretation of the Ordinary teaching of the Church. Closing the door to any further debate about any given point of a particular doctrine, forever.
Infallible is infallible, a truth is a truth in both, but there is a difference in the application of that authority. The Ordinary teaches the truth, the Extraordinary can shout down and dispel any opposition to it.


(The above applies to the Catholic Church's Magisteriums, the Conciliar sect's being anyone's guess )

J.Paul, when you are referring to two or more teaching offices of the Church, the proper term in Latin is Magisteria.  That is the plural nominative case for the neuter Latin noun Magisterium.  To say, "Magisteriums," is ignorant and improper, as it is not a Latin word at all.

Furthermore, when consideration for declension is added, in context of the Genetive (possessive case) declension, for example, the singular case is Magisterii and the plural is Magisteriorum.  Therefore, you would have the following:

This is the teaching Magisterii (belongs to the teaching office).  This dogma is Magisteriorum (belongs to both teaching offices of the Church).

Thanks for this explanation, J.Paul. Remember the time when Abp Lefebvre and the SSPX would say, that invalidity was creeping in as far as the N.O.M. was concerned because, "More and more Masses were in danger of becoming invalid, as more of the new and younger priests did not know what the intention of the Church was?"  

Since the Summorum Pontificuм, this opinion has been forgotten, and the N.O.M. has been accepted by the SSPX hierarchy -[they're not literally hierarchy, because they have no jurisdiction -- you could say "the SSPX clerics" and that would include bishops]- as the Official (Ordinary) Rite of the Church, while the TLM is the frosting (Extraordinary) rite on the liturgical cake.

This is a most interesting concept you have hit on, Francisco.  You have merged the principles of this EC (regarding ordinary and extraordinary Magisteria) with the pro-Modernist agenda of the XSPX, to arrive at the TLM becoming the "frosting on the liturgical cake."

Very interesting.

Now, put that together with Fr. Hewko's cake analogy, and you have the good and wholesome frosting covering the poisoned cake.

My only problem with that is, the frosting on a cake isn't all that wholesome!!  HAHAHAHAHA

Bishop Williamson should start exposing the u-turns of the SSPX.

Will Fr. Pfluger and company refuse to celebrate the New Mass?

This is a great idea.  +W is very aware of how the XSPX has changed direction, and he could go public with the news.  

He could even start to give advance notice of the things that are likely to start happening, without being too specific.  

But an occasional specification would go a long way, e.g., your question, Will Fr. Pfluger & Co. refuse to celebrate the Newmass?

And other things like,

Chapel bulletins and websites listing Newmass times at a local Diocese parish;

Or, announcements of events and projects of the Diocese, like fundraisers. and ordinations (the Polish website had Novordien Ordinations listed in their website);

Or, introducing more vernacular to parts of the Mass, just as Newchurch did in the summer of 1964, before Vat.II was halfway over.

He could call attention to what happened the first time around, and show how it's happening all over again in the Society, by both summarizing what has already taken place and based on the principles at work, announce what changes we can all expect to be coming in the not-too-distant future.  

He can do this.

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THEREFORE,

 Do not be surprised when you find accretions of NovusOrdo this-and-that into your local SSPX chapel, over the next few months and years.

Like portraits of Francis.................

I take full responsibility for this.

Months back I posted on the other Resistance forum that we didn't have a picture of Francis and polled others as to whether they do or don't.

Two weeks later +Fellay instructs all the chapels to make sure they have one.

Sorry!