Author Topic: Fr. J. Pfeiffer Chicago 2nd Sun Sermon Disunity in the Church (Read 2097 times)

sea leopard · « **on:** March 17, 2014, 04:32:45 PM »

Six PM or so Mass and 42 minute sermon at Lemont (Chicago area) Ill.
Audio only of sermon.
Working on getting Stunning video of most Beautiful Private Chapel but time consuming as 5 plus Gigabytes of HD digital film.
Pass on to friends as Email attachment.
Download to your PC by double clicking on file name. (I hope)
St. Patrick is "Sure and Begorrah" smiling on this Lady.

sea leopard · « **Reply #1 on:** March 17, 2014, 09:51:56 PM »

Video should be on YouTube after midnite (I hope)
Compliments of our Western Resisters.

BlackIrish · « **Reply #2 on:** March 18, 2014, 11:21:46 AM »

Well, if Father Pfeiffer is considered to be one of those derided "celebrity" priests, then there may be a reason for it - just listen to him.

He loves the Faith and his wisdom draws us to him and closer to the Faith.

Regardless, the word celebrity conveys a far too modern image.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #3 on:** March 18, 2014, 01:14:04 PM »

We listened to Fr. Pfeiffer's March 16 sermon, (if that is the one referenced here). Quite frankly, I did not understand much of it. It was about the loss of charity and the Old Mass in which all the rest of Sacraments cohere. Maybe my not getting a clear message from the sermon had more to do with my own spiritual state presently than with Father's delivery. I don't know. I only know that we came away scratching our heads. Yes, the Holy Sacrifice of Mass is central to our Faith, and it can supply many graces. However, here in Post Falls, I look upon Immaculate Conception Church as basically a 'Mass factory,' where the 'workers' arrive glum faced, punch in, work their 'shift' listlessly, watching the clock all the while. When the service is over, they get up and leave their work stations, looking just as glum and unsatisfied as they did when their 'shifts' began.

Ferdinand · « **Reply #4 on:** March 18, 2014, 01:31:01 PM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

We listened to Fr. Pfeiffer's March 16 sermon, (if that is the one referenced here). Quite frankly, I did not understand much of it. It was about the loss of charity and the Old Mass in which all the rest of Sacraments cohere. Maybe my not getting a clear message from the sermon had more to do with my own spiritual state presently than with Father's delivery. I don't know. I only know that we came away scratching our heads. Yes, the Holy Sacrifice of Mass is central to our Faith, and it can supply many graces. However, here in Post Falls, I look upon Immaculate Conception Church as basically a 'Mass factory,' where the 'workers' arrive glum faced, punch in, work their 'shift' listlessly, watching the clock all the while. When the service is over, they get up and leave their work stations, looking just as glum and unsatisfied as they did when their 'shifts' began.

Personally, with Mary Immaculate Queen in Rathdrum and St. Michael's in Spokane, I would stay clear of the SSPX in Post Falls.

Frances · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2014, 01:58:12 PM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

We listened to Fr. Pfeiffer's March 16 sermon, (if that is the one referenced here). Quite frankly, I did not understand much of it. It was about the loss of charity and the Old Mass in which all the rest of Sacraments cohere. Maybe my not getting a clear message from the sermon had more to do with my own spiritual state presently than with Father's delivery. I don't know. I only know that we came away scratching our heads. Yes, the Holy Sacrifice of Mass is central to our Faith, and it can supply many graces. However, here in Post Falls, I look upon Immaculate Conception Church as basically a 'Mass factory,' where the 'workers' arrive glum faced, punch in, work their 'shift' listlessly, watching the clock all the while. When the service is over, they get up and leave their work stations, looking just as glum and unsatisfied as they did when their 'shifts' began.

Does Fr. Pfeiffer strike you as a drone priest punching his time card at a Mass Factory? Maybe you need to listen again?
But if his sermons aren't for you, that's fine. There are still plenty of different priests in the world. Fr. Pfeiffer has the kind of personality people either really like or really can't stand. Although not on line as often, you might try Fr. Hewko, much more serious, contemplative, makes up for Fr. Pfeiffer's impulsiveness. Or Fr. Voigt. (Yes, he IS conditionally ordained by Bp. W.) Or look up Bp. Williamson. He can be firery, but by no means always. Many of the SSPX priests are still preaching the Truth. Some will not like that I say this, however, there are still priests in the Society who are not liberals!
Remember WHY Fr. Pfeiffer says charity has gone cold! Let's all work to keep ourselves from the deep freeze by keeping our souls aflame in Jesus Sacred Heart by love of the Holy Mass and the receiving of Supernatural grace of the Blessed Sacrament.

BlackIrish · « **Reply #6 on:** March 18, 2014, 02:58:45 PM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

We listened to Fr. Pfeiffer's March 16 sermon, (if that is the one referenced here). Quite frankly, I did not understand much of it. It was about the loss of charity and the Old Mass in which all the rest of Sacraments cohere. Maybe my not getting a clear message from the sermon had more to do with my own spiritual state presently than with Father's delivery. I don't know. I only know that we came away scratching our heads. Yes, the Holy Sacrifice of Mass is central to our Faith, and it can supply many graces. However, here in Post Falls, I look upon Immaculate Conception Church as basically a 'Mass factory,' where the 'workers' arrive glum faced, punch in, work their 'shift' listlessly, watching the clock all the while. When the service is over, they get up and leave their work stations, looking just as glum and unsatisfied as they did when their 'shifts' began.

Father says a lot in a short period of time.

Basically, if I got it correct, the core of the crisis, which comprises the Devil's attack, is twofold:

-Leadership (e.g. weak/evil humans, including the Pope)
-Holy Sacrifice of the Mass (source of all graces)

God gives us commandments (e.g. love thy enemy - ugh!) To be able to do so is almost superhuman, but God gave the commandments and supplied the font of strength to be able to abide by His commands: the Mass, which is the source of abundant graces.

As the Mass is the font for such abundant graces to help you save your soul, the Devil, of course, wants to destroy these graces by destroying the Mass (through weak/evil leadership, for instance).

New Mass is the wicked works of men and must be avoided; it's sterile, in any case - void of graces.

Those are the main points.

Your description of the Post Falls Mass is too funny. I can almost see their faces. They must be cradle Catholics. They take too much for granted!

hollingsworth · « **Reply #7 on:** March 18, 2014, 07:46:34 PM »

Blackirish:

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Your description of the Post Falls Mass is too funny. I can almost see their faces. They must be cradle Catholics. They take too much for granted!

Don't get me wrong, please. We do not attend ICC Masses, and have not done so for quite awhile. But this is how I remember the sspx Mass experience, over all, for a period of 10 years. Members of the ICC daily Mass 'workforce' are probably just as happy that we are no longer on the 'factory assembly line.' In fact, a couple of years ago one of the 'workers' hurried out after me after 5:45 AM daily Mass in order to inform me in no uncertain terms that my presence at the sspx company Masses was not appreciated. I gathered that he spoke for a number of his fellow workers. I was only too happy to oblige .
Fr. Pfeiffer and other "resistance" priests seem to concur. They advise us not to attend these Masses any longer. For them, apparently, all of those graces which we might accuмulate by attendance at the Holy Sacrament, to which Father alludes in his March 16 sermon, are all but foreclosed by the compromises we are forced to make by continued association with the neo-sspx. But maybe I'm reading it all wrong. No doubt, there are multiple graces afforded by participation in the Holy Sacrament of Mass, but, alas, the venues provided for legitimate participation are seemingly reduced in number all the time. Of course, Orthodoxy is out of the question. Diocesan sponsored Tridentine Masses are off limits. The Ecclesia dei communities are a no-no. And one need not even mention the sedes. :sign-surrender:

Marlelar · « **Reply #8 on:** March 19, 2014, 12:55:38 AM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

In fact, a couple of years ago one of the 'workers' hurried out after me after 5:45 AM daily Mass in order to inform me in no uncertain terms that my presence at the sspx company Masses was not appreciated. I gathered that he spoke for a number of his fellow workers. I was only too happy to oblige .

Oh my gosh, it's hard to believe there are "Catholics" like that in the world. What a horrible thing to say to a fellow Catholic.

I used to dream about moving to Post Falls until I started hearing stories similar to yours, and worse, about that location.

Marsha