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Re: Fr Hoopes Mess
« Reply #35 on: Today at 12:22:34 PM »
So, let's try to extract some substance from this idotic rant.

You open with the typical moronic ad-hominem "You people are such losers." ... and then conclude your insane rant with "... read the whole article like a normal mentally balanced person.  You should see the crazy."

Pathetic that Matthew defends someone who's as obviously psychological disturbed as you are, and won't do you the mercy of banning your ass from all civilized public discourse.

You do speak some truth here, though you can't help but layer the typical bullcrap on top of it, whereby you have the same effect that Church Militant did on the SSPX coverup for predators, namely, that by blending some very real criminal degeneracy in with made-up nonsense, they only served to discredit even the real problems.

In any case, the article did imply that this vet had been promoting the conclave.

I've long objected to the SSPX strong-arm tactics of insisting upon owning every chapel that they served, and conflating their spiritual authority with having some right to own the properties ... so while it's arrogant objectionable behavior, Fr. Hoopes is simply following the arrogant SSPX protcol on the matter, and seems to confound spiritual authority with owning the property.

By far the most alarming aspect of this was Fr. Hoopes' "white magic" junk, yet you gloss over THE singlemost disturbing aspect of these allegations as "obviously for real effect".

So you're claiming that the situation was made up?  It wouldn't be the first time that certain individuals who self-identify as Trad have dabbled in the occult and with "white magic" nonsense.

You hurl your bullshit at everyone else about not reading the entire article, but then you dismiss perhaps he single most serious charge with the wave of your hand as just being "for effect" ... without any evidence.

But you can't just wish that part away into the cornfield.

Hoopes, that you?



Not ad hominems. Just just  anger. And not substantially part of the argument.

Matthew does not defend me. He defends the principles on which he set up the site.

The vet had promised the church. Father reminded him of that. And that it is better anyway, where possible for the priests to own the Church so they are not beholden to the faithful.Father pushed gently and then when the vet insisted that the condition was he become dogmatic sede, he said no thanks.

He owned a book. He did not practice magic. Get a grip. Even if this is true, which is most likely not.

They provide zero evidence that there was any practice of it.

Honestly Father's statement at the end is pretty solid and you should respect that.

You're foaming at the mouth towards me is simply because I am not a Thucist.


Re: Fr Hoopes Mess
« Reply #36 on: Today at 12:27:01 PM »
I had forgotten about Bp. Faure, which also seems solid.

Bp. Thomas Aquinas' work is very very messy. I have heard many reports.

Bp. Morgan was involved with some strange Novus Ordo deacon who was accused of some bad behaviour with children. He did not care to explain anything, as far as I've seem. He is also involved with a certain Fr. Ness, a brazilian priest who has made a huge mess over some disputes with Bp. Thomas Aquinas. I would not trust any of these men.

You probably have no problem with SSPX Mass attendance and the SSPX seeking out agreements with Rome.


Re: Fr Hoopes Mess
« Reply #37 on: Today at 12:41:33 PM »
Have you Tom or anyone on here actually contacted Fr Hoopes on the matter for his side of the story? Not just snippets from correspondence which can easily be taken out of context. 

Re: Fr Hoopes Mess
« Reply #38 on: Today at 02:44:28 PM »
Because Bishop Z has his own particular agenda. Which is very much at odds with most of the resistance.
Are you Father Hoopes tho?

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Re: Fr Hoopes Mess
« Reply #39 on: Today at 03:16:39 PM »
Tom knows a LOT about the inner workings of the resistance.  Very fishy.