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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: OperationSurvival on September 29, 2015, 12:17:03 PM

Title: FR. HEWKOS ADDRESSES THE PABLO AND BP. AMBROSE CONCERNS
Post by: OperationSurvival on September 29, 2015, 12:17:03 PM
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE FIRST HAND INFORMATION, THEN YOU SHOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT IT.   LISTEN TO FR. HEWKO EXPLAIN THE SITUATION CONCERNING BP. AMBROSE AND PABLO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3trRWrNg0I
Title: FR. HEWKOS ADDRESSES THE PABLO AND BP. AMBROSE CONCERNS
Post by: MaterDominici on September 29, 2015, 12:23:16 PM
I've listened to the first half of this and he doesn't explain why Ambrose, who is still under investigation, was allowed to say Mass and give a homily. He also doesn't explain why he allowed his interview of a possible Orthodox to be posted online. Is this addressed in this sermon?
Title: FR. HEWKOS ADDRESSES THE PABLO AND BP. AMBROSE CONCERNS
Post by: MaterDominici on September 29, 2015, 12:28:59 PM
The problem, SK, is that some of these people DO have first-hand experience. You have here a former Boston, KY seminarian and another person who's been discussing the situation with Fr. Voigt. I'm sure you have Father Voigt's email. Have you asked him his opinion of the situation?


ADD: I forgot the third person, who is a resident of KY.
Title: FR. HEWKOS ADDRESSES THE PABLO AND BP. AMBROSE CONCERNS
Post by: Centroamerica on September 29, 2015, 12:31:32 PM
Quote from: MaterDominici
I've listened to the first half of this and he doesn't explain why Ambrose, who is still under investigation, was allowed to say Mass and give a homily. He also doesn't explain why he allowed his interview of a possible Orthodox to be posted online. Is this addressed in this sermon?


It is telling that this guy pops up out of nowhere and is given access to the altar and faithful, even while still under investigation, but a brother priest of the pious union who's story is clearly known, is asked to explain himself and where he stands on the Faith.
Title: FR. HEWKOS ADDRESSES THE PABLO AND BP. AMBROSE CONCERNS
Post by: Ladislaus on September 29, 2015, 12:45:59 PM
Quote from: Father Hewko
[Being a seminarian here] means that sometimes you got to obey a grouchy bossy Mexican if he is there.
Title: FR. HEWKOS ADDRESSES THE PABLO AND BP. AMBROSE CONCERNS
Post by: Ladislaus on September 29, 2015, 12:49:16 PM
Father Hewko spent about a minute on the question, saying that "IF" he's associated with the Orthodox schismatics, then they have nothing to do with him.  So he admits uncertainty, acknowledging that he MIGHT be a schismatic.  So someone who may be a schismatic and who may or may not even have valid Holy Orders is allowed to offer Mass there and give a sermon?

And how does Father Hewko not condemn himself here?
Title: FR. HEWKOS ADDRESSES THE PABLO AND BP. AMBROSE CONCERNS
Post by: Centroamerica on September 29, 2015, 12:52:47 PM


The amusing part is that people start threads like this one trying to defend what happened.
Title: FR. HEWKOS ADDRESSES THE PABLO AND BP. AMBROSE CONCERNS
Post by: Matthew on September 30, 2015, 08:12:54 PM
Quote from: Centroamerica
Quote from: MaterDominici
I've listened to the first half of this and he doesn't explain why Ambrose, who is still under investigation, was allowed to say Mass and give a homily. He also doesn't explain why he allowed his interview of a possible Orthodox to be posted online. Is this addressed in this sermon?


It is telling that this guy pops up out of nowhere and is given access to the altar and faithful, even while still under investigation, but a brother priest of the pious union who's story is clearly known, is asked to explain himself and where he stands on the Faith.


Yes, there is clearly a double-standard. We *should* be red-lighting the "masses" of this bishop until we figure out A) is he still schismatic B) was he properly ordained/consecrated at all, etc.

On the other hand, another brother priest who has a long, known and spotless reputation (Fr. Zendejas) is attacked by Fr. Pfeiffer, who advises his followers to avoid Fr. Zendejas' Masses! Truth is stranger than fiction.

If I were writing a book, and described this situation, people would certainly attack my writing ability ("ridiculous", "too imaginative", "not realistic")
Title: FR. HEWKOS ADDRESSES THE PABLO AND BP. AMBROSE CONCERNS
Post by: JPaul on September 30, 2015, 08:51:27 PM
Quote from: OperationSurvival
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE FIRST HAND INFORMATION, THEN YOU SHOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT IT.   LISTEN TO FR. HEWKO EXPLAIN THE SITUATION CONCERNING BP. AMBROSE AND PABLO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3trRWrNg0I


Wait a minute my friend, you say first hand information and then you go on to have us listen to the hearsay evidence of Father Hewko who is an interested party and directly involved in whatever is or is not going on there.

That is not first hand evidence which would be directly witnessing these alleged events. I surmise that you are a partisan in favor of the Kentucky group.