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I cleaned up MOST of his letter; the parts missing weren't very "interesting". I have attached the PDF if you want to see those parts.
When you copy-paste from the PDF, most words have random spaces added all over the place. It was quite annoying and tedious to clean it up.


To Catholics Fighting For Tradition;
...

I come with no political agenda, nor touting "my own apostolate", but simply come as a Catholic
priest, as Abp. Lefebvre wanted his priests to do, responding to the call of the faithful, coming as
ambassadors of Our Lord Jesus Christ and of His Holy Catholic Church, knowing She supplies
jurisdiction for the sacraments due to the emergency crisis in the Church.
To be in the position of an "independent" priest is not my choice, is most unpleasant and I long to
submit to a bishop. But please, help me find one who has not slid from the solid position of Abp.
Lefebvre, that is, one who has not compromised with Modernist Rome, or on the New Mass or is
not promoting New Mass "miracles", but simply holds the clear doctrinal line of Abp. Lefebvre at
all levels: on sedevacantism, Vatican II, Novus Ordo Mass, Indult/ Motu Proprio Masses, etc., etc.
If you do find one, I will gladly throw myself at his feet!
In the same vein, it must be said, the rising movement of lay committees and lay-run websites,
without guidance and supervision from a priest or bishop is most detestable to the mind of the
Church. It has recently led to the promotion of error and heresies, diatribes of mockery,
vulgarities and scandalous behavior, unprofessional journalism by slandering any one, any time,
while publishing anonymous letters that provoke the basest sensationalism and most crude
detractions. This is precisely why St. Pius X demanded censorship of publications and their
supervision under the, then, trustworthy Catholic Bishops! (cf. Pascendi). It is necessary that
apostolic laity publish good doctrine and promote the Catholic Faith and now, more than ever,
the clear stand of Abp. Lefebvre! Unfortunately , however, the scarcity of sound doctrine in
prelates in this post-Conciliar nightmare finds the laity somewhat leaderless, but let them,
nevertheless, be guided at least by the doctrinal clarity and fraternal charity which shined in
previous Catholic publications, when they were under the guidance of good Traditional-minded
clergy . On one hand, "it is necessary for scandals to arise rather than the truth be silent," as St.
Gregory said, but quite another to be a tabloid from the gutter and making a profit from it! (cf.
Cathinfo!).
My reasons for leaving OLMC in Kentucky were made public, clear and still remain the same. I
refuse to endanger the validity of the sacraments, and promote a dubious bishop. I hold exactly
the same position of Abp. Lefebvre on the objective dubiousness of the New Rite of ordinations and
episcopal consecrations. (See: thecatacombs.org for his own extensive explanations on this topic).
Abp. Lefebvre was a far greater theologian than any this century , with experience on the
mission fields. His position on all levels far outweigh any feather-weights of our time!
Due to the absurdity of our apocalyptic times and the acceleration of all evils, it is necessary to
state positions and clarify any confusion. So, let us pull together as members of the Church
Militant, pray and fight for her former glory , which will only return when the Pope dutifully
obeys Our Lady of Fatima and Rome comes back to Catholic Tradition!

...

Sincerely in Christ, Resurrected from the Tomb!
Fr. David Hewko
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Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2019, 09:09:40 AM »
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  • Fr Hewko,

    If there is material on CathInfo that offends God IN ANY WAY you are obligated to send me an e-mail at least with the specific threads that are a problem.
    I assert here before God and the entire CathInfo membership that I am SUPREMELY INTERESTED in working out my salvation and saving my soul. I COMPLETELY REJECT the devil's allurements of money, power, fame, pleasure and any other earthly rewards over the eternal beatitude with God in Heaven. The rest of my life bears witness to this. I've made my commitment.

    I was taught in Catechism a classic example of "reductio ad absurdam": You don't have a man who pays his taxes, loves his children, tucks them in at night, feeds the homeless, serves Mass, makes a daily meditation, but he's a professional hitman who literally murders for a living. Such depravity and mortal sin cannot coexist with the constant practice of many other virtues, even heroic virtue in some cases. One of the two must collapse: the mortal sin, or the good, upstanding Catholic life.

    Need I mention how difficult it is to oppose the whole world? How much fortitude and love of God (and the truth) that requires? Being in the Resistance and holding the traditional Catholic Faith would not be my first choice if I were living "for this world" with no regard to what will become of me in the next life.

    I'll come right out and say it: I am of good will. I know how it works: you see the sodomite couple on the street, flagrantly living in debauchery, but you say nothing to them because you are morally certain they would reject your admonitions and advice. I would do the same thing! The classic "pearls before swine". But if your excuse for not talking to me is, "Oh, he's so far gone, he's of bad will, he's not interested in the truth, he is serving the devil, etc." then you are mistaken.

    As a priest of God, you are obligated to ADMONISH THE SINNER and show me exactly what "tabloid" material is found on CathInfo. You have to show me the lies, and even how I'm supposed to KNOW they are lies. Or at least why I should suspect them to be lies! I'll give you a hint: If an anecdote is in perfect accord with all the known facts, I'm NOT going to suspect it's a lie. In fact, I will do the opposite: assume it's true!

    One must keep in mind the role of a Traditional Catholic forum: to discuss things people want to discuss, within the bounds of Catholic morality. For example, nothing knowingly untrue is allowed to stand. New members signing up and posting garbage, filth, violence, heresy, spam, are quickly dealt with. Everything that remains is legitimate information, thoughts, questions, and observations from Traditional Catholics -- the faithful remnant -- all over the English-speaking world. The good guys. Those trying to save their souls. If I were to leave anything on CathInfo that is unacceptable from a Catholic perspective, there would be an outcry from the membership.

    I will acknowledge that CathInfo isn't heaven, because earth isn't heaven. The men and women on CathInfo are children of Adam, working out their salvation on a daily basis; they are all "works-in-progress". But they are Traditional Catholics interested in sacrificing to please God, Who isn't finished with *any* of them yet. I'm sure some of them lose their temper on occasion, or they are imperfect in their logic or objectivity. Some might get emotional at times. But if perfection were required for membership, the forum would have exactly 0 members.

    Sincerely,

    Matthew

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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #2 on: May 01, 2019, 09:13:00 AM »
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    To be in the position of an "independent" priest is not my choice, is most unpleasant and I long to
    submit to a bishop. But please, help me find one who has not slid from the solid position of Abp.
    Lefebvre, that is, one who has not compromised with Modernist Rome, or on the New Mass or is
    not promoting New Mass "miracles", but simply holds the clear doctrinal line of Abp. Lefebvre at
    all levels: on sedevacantism, Vatican II, Novus Ordo Mass, Indult/ Motu Proprio Masses, etc., etc.
    If you do find one, I will gladly throw myself at his feet!

    Father, you are deceiving yourself, but you're not deceiving me.

    If you REALLY wanted to find an uncompromised bishop who is not Sedevacantist, you would OPEN YOUR EYES and see that there are FOUR of them to be precise:
    Bp. Williamson
    Bp. Faure
    Bp. Thomas Aquinas
    Bp. Zendejas

    You have *NO GOOD REASON* to reject any of these bishops, who are 100% faithful to the position of Abp. Lefebvre.

    Now in complete agreement with Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer? who knows, and frankly who cares. Fr. Pfeiffer is not MY standard of orthodoxy. He has been caught in several errors, and several lies, over the past 5 years at least.

    Abp. Lefebvre was outstanding in his prudence. Fr. Pfeiffer is practically the opposite -- his lack of prudence is legendary. That reason alone would cause me to NOT hold up Fr. Pfeiffer as a standard of orthodoxy.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #3 on: May 01, 2019, 09:26:49 AM »
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    On one hand, "it is necessary for scandals to arise rather than the truth be silent," as St.
    Gregory said, but quite another to be a tabloid from the gutter and making a profit from it! (cf.
    Cathinfo!).

    Father,

    Not only are you calling me wicked, but you're calling me wicked and stupid.

    Judas betrayed Our Lord for 30 pieces of silver. But would he have done the deed for ONE piece of silver? I doubt it.
    Esau sold his birthright to Jacob for a mess of pottage. But would he have done so for a single, dry cracker? I doubt it.

    Saying I "make a profit" from CathInfo is technically true, but it's a bit of a stretch. Revenue from the site covers the Internet bill, the electricity needed to run the server 24/7, with a few dollars left over to replace and upgrade hardware as necessary. Ever heard of a six-figure income? CathInfo is a three-figure income, if measured annually, or a two-figure income, if measured monthly.

    It's not about the money. It's an apostolate, a labor of love. It's one of the ways I help Our Lord in His constant battle to fight lies and evil, and secure the salvation of as many souls as possible.

    I lost a lot of members when the SSPX went astray, and even more members when Fr. Pfeiffer went astray (Pablo, Ambrose, Tetherow, him attacking Resistance bishops, etc.) I don't hesitate to ban people and remove content when morality or principles are at stake. But the best part? You don't have to believe me. Just look at the facts of history over the past 12 years.

    I am far more interested in the long-term Catholic moral integrity of CathInfo than any meager paycheck. Don't kid yourself.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #4 on: May 01, 2019, 09:35:06 AM »
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  • Fr. Hewko claiming there are no faithful Bishops in the world of Tradition at the moment makes a mockery of God, a mockery of His providence, and a mockery of the Traditional movement.

    How can you accuse God of leaving us SO desolate -- without the End of the World being literally next week!

    I know it's bad, but it's not THAT bad -- not yet at least!

    Let's put it this way -- there might come a time when God allows the True Mass to cease, most priests to be killed, etc. but you better believe God will set a timer at that point. He won't expect you to live like that for longer than we can handle.

    The problem with being objectively wrong: you end up suffering in ways God didn't intend. God won't place too heavy a burden on us -- but nothing says we won't place too heavy a burden on ourselves due to error/ignorance/malice!
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #5 on: May 01, 2019, 09:39:52 AM »
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  • one who has not compromised with Modernist Rome, or on the New Mass or is
    not promoting New Mass "miracles" ...

    So he would rule out Bishop Williamson for something this trivial, a simple opinion about the validity of the New Mass and the fact that some people could receive graces from attending it?

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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #6 on: May 01, 2019, 09:41:27 AM »
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  • So he would rule out Bishop Williamson for something this trivial, a simple opinion about the validity of the New Mass and the fact that some people could receive graces from attending it?
    Apparently so.

    And the worst part is, Fr. Hewko has no reason to believe +ABL didn't believe and teach the exact same thing. As a matter of fact, +Williamson's unpopular (with some Trads) position on this is actually 100% faithful to +ABL.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #7 on: May 01, 2019, 11:07:56 AM »
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  • In response to Fr Hewko’s letter Matthew said-

    “One must keep in mind the role of a Traditional Catholic forum: to discuss things people want to discuss, within the bounds of Catholic morality. For example, nothing knowingly untrue is allowed to stand. New members signing up and posting garbage, filth, violence, heresy, spam, are quickly dealt with. Everything that remains is legitimate information, thoughts, questions, and observations from Traditional Catholics”

    I believe this is true. And I think most here would agree also.

    So I have to ask, why then has this been lost on Fr. Hewko and Fr. Pfeiffer, and OLMC people for years now?
    They say to avoid CI like the plague.
    The  Frs. have had sermons about it. Laity that approach with questions and concerns about things they’ve read here get a firm rebuke for visiting and then told to abstain from not only CI, but from the Internet entirely!

    Why? Because not everyone there agrees with every single opinion of yours on the how to deal with the CRISIS in the Church?

    What else are we Traditional Catholics to do when our tiny little trad lives are so already so small and limited as it is? Many of us here, if not most, have no Catholic family members, let alone Traditional ones, to even turn to during this Crisis!
    I’m sorry Fr Hewko, but you’ve got some kind of serious tunnel vision!

    Btw, I’m wondering of course about this letter just now coming out recently because there was a need for Fr Hewko to defend Pablo from the ‘warlock thread’ without having to actually come and defend Pablo here on CI in person? 


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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #8 on: May 01, 2019, 11:12:53 AM »
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  • Btw, I’m wondering of course about this letter just now coming out recently because there was a need for Fr Hewko to defend Pablo from the ‘warlock thread’ without having to actually come and defend Pablo here on CI in person?

    Good question.

    Especially considering that, according to first-hand witnesses, Fr. Hewko had been known to call Pablo by a term of endearment, Pablissimo -- contrast that with Pablo's existing nicknames going back 20 years, "Pablo el Brujo" and "Pablo el Diablo".
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #9 on: May 01, 2019, 11:15:37 AM »
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  • Good question.

    Especially considering that, according to first-hand witnesses, Fr. Hewko had been known to call Pablo by a term of endearment, Pablissimo -- contrast that with Pablo's existing nicknames going back 20 years, "Pablo el Brujo" and "Pablo el Diablo".
    When I approached Fr Hewko with legitimate concerns about Pablo, he said ‘Pablo? Oh Haha, he’s harmless.’
    I’ll never forget that immediate dismissal. 

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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #10 on: May 01, 2019, 11:20:05 AM »
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  • When I approached Fr Hewko with legitimate concerns about Pablo, he said ‘Pablo? Oh Haha, he’s harmless.’
    I’ll never forget that immediate dismissal.

    Hooray for being naive and finding the good in the worst of criminals and sinners.

    But Fr. Hewko is LITERALLY choosing Pablo el Brujo over the good Catholics of CathInfo. He is literally calling good "evil" and evil "good"!

    He sees and understands that Pablo and the good Catholics of CathInfo are irreconcilable in their respective current states -- so whom does he castigate and call "evil"? The good Catholics of CathInfo.

    That is not a small sin.

    That is what I loudly, publicly, criticize Fr. Hewko for. It is a grave injustice and an inversion of everything the Priesthood stands for. Christ is Truth. It is *satan* who is the father of lies.

    In fact, once your orientation is upside-down like that, it becomes the fountainhead of hundreds and even thousands of other sins.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #11 on: May 01, 2019, 11:25:24 AM »
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  • We don't need that particular Catechism lesson, Manuel.

    We are well aware of the Eighth Commandment and what is covered by it.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #12 on: May 01, 2019, 11:29:25 AM »
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  • Apparently so.

    And the worst part is, Fr. Hewko has no reason to believe +ABL didn't believe and teach the exact same thing. As a matter of fact, +Williamson's unpopular (with some Trads) position on this is actually 100% faithful to +ABL.

    Here's the thing.  WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGREE with the position articulated by Bishop Williamson, does this position/opinion render him effectively a non-Catholic and a compromiser?  Now, I don't agree with a fair amount of +Williamson's positions (e.g. Valtorta, Garabandal, etc.), but I as a priest would have no problem working with him.  I have no issues with the statements he made regarding the New Mass ... except that perhaps they were inopportune or imprudent.  Whether he wanted to work with me would be a different matter altogether :).  Bishop Williamson has been criticized for providing the Sacraments to various groups, e.g. some Feeneyites, or some Ukrainian Catholics, etc.  But he realizes that these folks are still essentially Catholics and he would not withhold the Sacraments on the basis of a difference of opinion.  This crisis is complicated and confusing and unprecedented, so it's expected that good Catholics might have some different opinions about it.

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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #13 on: May 01, 2019, 11:38:23 AM »
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  • Hooray for being naive and finding the good in the worst of criminals and sinners.

    But Fr. Hewko is LITERALLY choosing Pablo el Brujo over the good Catholics of CathInfo. He is literally calling good "evil" and evil "good"!

    He sees and understands that Pablo and the good Catholics of CathInfo are irreconcilable in their respective current states -- so whom does he castigate and call "evil"? The good Catholics of CathInfo.

    That is not a small sin.

    That is what I loudly, publicly, criticize Fr. Hewko for. It is a grave injustice and an inversion of everything the Priesthood stands for. Christ is Truth. It is *satan* who is the father of lies.

    In fact, once your orientation is upside-down like that, it becomes the fountainhead of hundreds and even thousands of other sins.

    Well said. Fr. Hewko criticizes Cath Info, but he apparently doesn't have a problem with Pablo, who's actions are far worse.

    I'm not sure that it would work to have a trad priest or bishop oversee a forum like Cath Info. There are just too many divergent opinions in Tradition. Oversight may have worked in St. Pius X's day, but probably wouldn't work in a severe Crisis like what we have today.

    Fr. Hewko doesn't agree with Bp. Williamson's stance on the New Mass. But there are probably others, even in the SAJM, who may not agree, but it isn't that big a deal. I don't think that +W requires that everyone agree with him on that issue.  

    Fr. Hewko seems to want a certain amount of perfection in a bishop, but he's not likely to find any who will live up to his standards. He may eventually realize that, and join up with the SAJM. It might take awhile. Though he can remain an independent priest too. He wouldn't be the only one.

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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #14 on: May 01, 2019, 11:41:20 AM »
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  • I dare say that without such "gutter tabloids" as CathInfo, Father Hewko would still be promoting Ambrose Moran and counseling souls to receive dubious Sacraments from him.  He should thank CathInfo for the pressure created on him to re-examine Moran.  Otherwise he might already be subject to one Bishop Pfeiffer, or might even himself be walking around as Bishop Hewko.

     

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