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Title: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 08:47:01 AM
I cleaned up MOST of his letter; the parts missing weren't very "interesting". I have attached the PDF if you want to see those parts.
When you copy-paste from the PDF, most words have random spaces added all over the place. It was quite annoying and tedious to clean it up.


To Catholics Fighting For Tradition;
...

I come with no political agenda, nor touting "my own apostolate", but simply come as a Catholic
priest, as Abp. Lefebvre wanted his priests to do, responding to the call of the faithful, coming as
ambassadors of Our Lord Jesus Christ and of His Holy Catholic Church, knowing She supplies
jurisdiction for the sacraments due to the emergency crisis in the Church.
To be in the position of an "independent" priest is not my choice, is most unpleasant and I long to
submit to a bishop. But please, help me find one who has not slid from the solid position of Abp.
Lefebvre, that is, one who has not compromised with Modernist Rome, or on the New Mass or is
not promoting New Mass "miracles", but simply holds the clear doctrinal line of Abp. Lefebvre at
all levels: on sedevacantism, Vatican II, Novus Ordo Mass, Indult/ Motu Proprio Masses, etc., etc.
If you do find one, I will gladly throw myself at his feet!
In the same vein, it must be said, the rising movement of lay committees and lay-run websites,
without guidance and supervision from a priest or bishop is most detestable to the mind of the
Church. It has recently led to the promotion of error and heresies, diatribes of mockery,
vulgarities and scandalous behavior, unprofessional journalism by slandering any one, any time,
while publishing anonymous letters that provoke the basest sensationalism and most crude
detractions. This is precisely why St. Pius X demanded censorship of publications and their
supervision under the, then, trustworthy Catholic Bishops! (cf. Pascendi). It is necessary that
apostolic laity publish good doctrine and promote the Catholic Faith and now, more than ever,
the clear stand of Abp. Lefebvre! Unfortunately , however, the scarcity of sound doctrine in
prelates in this post-Conciliar nightmare finds the laity somewhat leaderless, but let them,
nevertheless, be guided at least by the doctrinal clarity and fraternal charity which shined in
previous Catholic publications, when they were under the guidance of good Traditional-minded
clergy . On one hand, "it is necessary for scandals to arise rather than the truth be silent," as St.
Gregory said, but quite another to be a tabloid from the gutter and making a profit from it! (cf.
Cathinfo!).
My reasons for leaving OLMC in Kentucky were made public, clear and still remain the same. I
refuse to endanger the validity of the sacraments, and promote a dubious bishop. I hold exactly
the same position of Abp. Lefebvre on the objective dubiousness of the New Rite of ordinations and
episcopal consecrations. (See: thecatacombs.org for his own extensive explanations on this topic).
Abp. Lefebvre was a far greater theologian than any this century , with experience on the
mission fields. His position on all levels far outweigh any feather-weights of our time!
Due to the absurdity of our apocalyptic times and the acceleration of all evils, it is necessary to
state positions and clarify any confusion. So, let us pull together as members of the Church
Militant, pray and fight for her former glory , which will only return when the Pope dutifully
obeys Our Lady of Fatima and Rome comes back to Catholic Tradition!

...

Sincerely in Christ, Resurrected from the Tomb!
Fr. David Hewko
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 09:09:40 AM
Fr Hewko,

If there is material on CathInfo that offends God IN ANY WAY you are obligated to send me an e-mail at least with the specific threads that are a problem.
I assert here before God and the entire CathInfo membership that I am SUPREMELY INTERESTED in working out my salvation and saving my soul. I COMPLETELY REJECT the devil's allurements of money, power, fame, pleasure and any other earthly rewards over the eternal beatitude with God in Heaven. The rest of my life bears witness to this. I've made my commitment.

I was taught in Catechism a classic example of "reductio ad absurdam": You don't have a man who pays his taxes, loves his children, tucks them in at night, feeds the homeless, serves Mass, makes a daily meditation, but he's a professional hitman who literally murders for a living. Such depravity and mortal sin cannot coexist with the constant practice of many other virtues, even heroic virtue in some cases. One of the two must collapse: the mortal sin, or the good, upstanding Catholic life.

Need I mention how difficult it is to oppose the whole world? How much fortitude and love of God (and the truth) that requires? Being in the Resistance and holding the traditional Catholic Faith would not be my first choice if I were living "for this world" with no regard to what will become of me in the next life.

I'll come right out and say it: I am of good will. I know how it works: you see the sodomite couple on the street, flagrantly living in debauchery, but you say nothing to them because you are morally certain they would reject your admonitions and advice. I would do the same thing! The classic "pearls before swine". But if your excuse for not talking to me is, "Oh, he's so far gone, he's of bad will, he's not interested in the truth, he is serving the devil, etc." then you are mistaken.

As a priest of God, you are obligated to ADMONISH THE SINNER and show me exactly what "tabloid" material is found on CathInfo. You have to show me the lies, and even how I'm supposed to KNOW they are lies. Or at least why I should suspect them to be lies! I'll give you a hint: If an anecdote is in perfect accord with all the known facts, I'm NOT going to suspect it's a lie. In fact, I will do the opposite: assume it's true!

One must keep in mind the role of a Traditional Catholic forum: to discuss things people want to discuss, within the bounds of Catholic morality. For example, nothing knowingly untrue is allowed to stand. New members signing up and posting garbage, filth, violence, heresy, spam, are quickly dealt with. Everything that remains is legitimate information, thoughts, questions, and observations from Traditional Catholics -- the faithful remnant -- all over the English-speaking world. The good guys. Those trying to save their souls. If I were to leave anything on CathInfo that is unacceptable from a Catholic perspective, there would be an outcry from the membership.

I will acknowledge that CathInfo isn't heaven, because earth isn't heaven. The men and women on CathInfo are children of Adam, working out their salvation on a daily basis; they are all "works-in-progress". But they are Traditional Catholics interested in sacrificing to please God, Who isn't finished with *any* of them yet. I'm sure some of them lose their temper on occasion, or they are imperfect in their logic or objectivity. Some might get emotional at times. But if perfection were required for membership, the forum would have exactly 0 members.

Sincerely,

Matthew

Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 09:13:00 AM
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To be in the position of an "independent" priest is not my choice, is most unpleasant and I long to
submit to a bishop. But please, help me find one who has not slid from the solid position of Abp.
Lefebvre, that is, one who has not compromised with Modernist Rome, or on the New Mass or is
not promoting New Mass "miracles", but simply holds the clear doctrinal line of Abp. Lefebvre at
all levels: on sedevacantism, Vatican II, Novus Ordo Mass, Indult/ Motu Proprio Masses, etc., etc.
If you do find one, I will gladly throw myself at his feet!

Father, you are deceiving yourself, but you're not deceiving me.

If you REALLY wanted to find an uncompromised bishop who is not Sedevacantist, you would OPEN YOUR EYES and see that there are FOUR of them to be precise:
Bp. Williamson
Bp. Faure
Bp. Thomas Aquinas
Bp. Zendejas

You have *NO GOOD REASON* to reject any of these bishops, who are 100% faithful to the position of Abp. Lefebvre.

Now in complete agreement with Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer? who knows, and frankly who cares. Fr. Pfeiffer is not MY standard of orthodoxy. He has been caught in several errors, and several lies, over the past 5 years at least.

Abp. Lefebvre was outstanding in his prudence. Fr. Pfeiffer is practically the opposite -- his lack of prudence is legendary. That reason alone would cause me to NOT hold up Fr. Pfeiffer as a standard of orthodoxy.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 09:26:49 AM
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On one hand, "it is necessary for scandals to arise rather than the truth be silent," as St.
Gregory said, but quite another to be a tabloid from the gutter and making a profit from it! (cf.
Cathinfo!).

Father,

Not only are you calling me wicked, but you're calling me wicked and stupid.

Judas betrayed Our Lord for 30 pieces of silver. But would he have done the deed for ONE piece of silver? I doubt it.
Esau sold his birthright to Jacob for a mess of pottage. But would he have done so for a single, dry cracker? I doubt it.

Saying I "make a profit" from CathInfo is technically true, but it's a bit of a stretch. Revenue from the site covers the Internet bill, the electricity needed to run the server 24/7, with a few dollars left over to replace and upgrade hardware as necessary. Ever heard of a six-figure income? CathInfo is a three-figure income, if measured annually, or a two-figure income, if measured monthly.

It's not about the money. It's an apostolate, a labor of love. It's one of the ways I help Our Lord in His constant battle to fight lies and evil, and secure the salvation of as many souls as possible.

I lost a lot of members when the SSPX went astray, and even more members when Fr. Pfeiffer went astray (Pablo, Ambrose, Tetherow, him attacking Resistance bishops, etc.) I don't hesitate to ban people and remove content when morality or principles are at stake. But the best part? You don't have to believe me. Just look at the facts of history over the past 12 years.

I am far more interested in the long-term Catholic moral integrity of CathInfo than any meager paycheck. Don't kid yourself.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 09:35:06 AM
Fr. Hewko claiming there are no faithful Bishops in the world of Tradition at the moment makes a mockery of God, a mockery of His providence, and a mockery of the Traditional movement.

How can you accuse God of leaving us SO desolate -- without the End of the World being literally next week!

I know it's bad, but it's not THAT bad -- not yet at least!

Let's put it this way -- there might come a time when God allows the True Mass to cease, most priests to be killed, etc. but you better believe God will set a timer at that point. He won't expect you to live like that for longer than we can handle.

The problem with being objectively wrong: you end up suffering in ways God didn't intend. God won't place too heavy a burden on us -- but nothing says we won't place too heavy a burden on ourselves due to error/ignorance/malice!
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Ladislaus on May 01, 2019, 09:39:52 AM
one who has not compromised with Modernist Rome, or on the New Mass or is
not promoting New Mass "miracles" ...

So he would rule out Bishop Williamson for something this trivial, a simple opinion about the validity of the New Mass and the fact that some people could receive graces from attending it?
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 09:41:27 AM
So he would rule out Bishop Williamson for something this trivial, a simple opinion about the validity of the New Mass and the fact that some people could receive graces from attending it?
Apparently so.

And the worst part is, Fr. Hewko has no reason to believe +ABL didn't believe and teach the exact same thing. As a matter of fact, +Williamson's unpopular (with some Trads) position on this is actually 100% faithful to +ABL.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Carissima on May 01, 2019, 11:07:56 AM
In response to Fr Hewko’s letter Matthew said-

“One must keep in mind the role of a Traditional Catholic forum: to discuss things people want to discuss, within the bounds of Catholic morality. For example, nothing knowingly untrue is allowed to stand. New members signing up and posting garbage, filth, violence, heresy, spam, are quickly dealt with. Everything that remains is legitimate information, thoughts, questions, and observations from Traditional Catholics”

I believe this is true. And I think most here would agree also.

So I have to ask, why then has this been lost on Fr. Hewko and Fr. Pfeiffer, and OLMC people for years now?
They say to avoid CI like the plague.
The  Frs. have had sermons about it. Laity that approach with questions and concerns about things they’ve read here get a firm rebuke for visiting and then told to abstain from not only CI, but from the Internet entirely!

Why? Because not everyone there agrees with every single opinion of yours on the how to deal with the CRISIS in the Church?

What else are we Traditional Catholics to do when our tiny little trad lives are so already so small and limited as it is? Many of us here, if not most, have no Catholic family members, let alone Traditional ones, to even turn to during this Crisis!
I’m sorry Fr Hewko, but you’ve got some kind of serious tunnel vision!

Btw, I’m wondering of course about this letter just now coming out recently because there was a need for Fr Hewko to defend Pablo from the ‘warlock thread’ without having to actually come and defend Pablo here on CI in person? 
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 11:12:53 AM
Btw, I’m wondering of course about this letter just now coming out recently because there was a need for Fr Hewko to defend Pablo from the ‘warlock thread’ without having to actually come and defend Pablo here on CI in person?

Good question.

Especially considering that, according to first-hand witnesses, Fr. Hewko had been known to call Pablo by a term of endearment, Pablissimo -- contrast that with Pablo's existing nicknames going back 20 years, "Pablo el Brujo" and "Pablo el Diablo".
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Carissima on May 01, 2019, 11:15:37 AM
Good question.

Especially considering that, according to first-hand witnesses, Fr. Hewko had been known to call Pablo by a term of endearment, Pablissimo -- contrast that with Pablo's existing nicknames going back 20 years, "Pablo el Brujo" and "Pablo el Diablo".
When I approached Fr Hewko with legitimate concerns about Pablo, he said ‘Pablo? Oh Haha, he’s harmless.’
I’ll never forget that immediate dismissal. 
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 11:20:05 AM
When I approached Fr Hewko with legitimate concerns about Pablo, he said ‘Pablo? Oh Haha, he’s harmless.’
I’ll never forget that immediate dismissal.

Hooray for being naive and finding the good in the worst of criminals and sinners.

But Fr. Hewko is LITERALLY choosing Pablo el Brujo over the good Catholics of CathInfo. He is literally calling good "evil" and evil "good"!

He sees and understands that Pablo and the good Catholics of CathInfo are irreconcilable in their respective current states -- so whom does he castigate and call "evil"? The good Catholics of CathInfo.

That is not a small sin.

That is what I loudly, publicly, criticize Fr. Hewko for. It is a grave injustice and an inversion of everything the Priesthood stands for. Christ is Truth. It is *satan* who is the father of lies.

In fact, once your orientation is upside-down like that, it becomes the fountainhead of hundreds and even thousands of other sins.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 11:25:24 AM
We don't need that particular Catechism lesson, Manuel.

We are well aware of the Eighth Commandment and what is covered by it.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Ladislaus on May 01, 2019, 11:29:25 AM
Apparently so.

And the worst part is, Fr. Hewko has no reason to believe +ABL didn't believe and teach the exact same thing. As a matter of fact, +Williamson's unpopular (with some Trads) position on this is actually 100% faithful to +ABL.

Here's the thing.  WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGREE with the position articulated by Bishop Williamson, does this position/opinion render him effectively a non-Catholic and a compromiser?  Now, I don't agree with a fair amount of +Williamson's positions (e.g. Valtorta, Garabandal, etc.), but I as a priest would have no problem working with him.  I have no issues with the statements he made regarding the New Mass ... except that perhaps they were inopportune or imprudent.  Whether he wanted to work with me would be a different matter altogether :).  Bishop Williamson has been criticized for providing the Sacraments to various groups, e.g. some Feeneyites, or some Ukrainian Catholics, etc.  But he realizes that these folks are still essentially Catholics and he would not withhold the Sacraments on the basis of a difference of opinion.  This crisis is complicated and confusing and unprecedented, so it's expected that good Catholics might have some different opinions about it.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Meg on May 01, 2019, 11:38:23 AM
Hooray for being naive and finding the good in the worst of criminals and sinners.

But Fr. Hewko is LITERALLY choosing Pablo el Brujo over the good Catholics of CathInfo. He is literally calling good "evil" and evil "good"!

He sees and understands that Pablo and the good Catholics of CathInfo are irreconcilable in their respective current states -- so whom does he castigate and call "evil"? The good Catholics of CathInfo.

That is not a small sin.

That is what I loudly, publicly, criticize Fr. Hewko for. It is a grave injustice and an inversion of everything the Priesthood stands for. Christ is Truth. It is *satan* who is the father of lies.

In fact, once your orientation is upside-down like that, it becomes the fountainhead of hundreds and even thousands of other sins.

Well said. Fr. Hewko criticizes Cath Info, but he apparently doesn't have a problem with Pablo, who's actions are far worse.

I'm not sure that it would work to have a trad priest or bishop oversee a forum like Cath Info. There are just too many divergent opinions in Tradition. Oversight may have worked in St. Pius X's day, but probably wouldn't work in a severe Crisis like what we have today.

Fr. Hewko doesn't agree with Bp. Williamson's stance on the New Mass. But there are probably others, even in the SAJM, who may not agree, but it isn't that big a deal. I don't think that +W requires that everyone agree with him on that issue.  

Fr. Hewko seems to want a certain amount of perfection in a bishop, but he's not likely to find any who will live up to his standards. He may eventually realize that, and join up with the SAJM. It might take awhile. Though he can remain an independent priest too. He wouldn't be the only one.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Ladislaus on May 01, 2019, 11:41:20 AM
I dare say that without such "gutter tabloids" as CathInfo, Father Hewko would still be promoting Ambrose Moran and counseling souls to receive dubious Sacraments from him.  He should thank CathInfo for the pressure created on him to re-examine Moran.  Otherwise he might already be subject to one Bishop Pfeiffer, or might even himself be walking around as Bishop Hewko.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Ladislaus on May 01, 2019, 11:42:43 AM
It's also interesting that their campaign against Bishop Williamson began long before His Excellency's comments regarding the New Mass.  They of course pounced opportunistically on the comments as if to say, "See, we told you he was bad."  And didn't Father Pfeiffer himself make similar comments at one point about the NOM?

So what was their issue with him BEFORE those comments?  That he wouldn't consecrate Bishop Pfeiffer and endorse his seminary.  Great sins against the Catholic faith those.  In fact, I sensed that the beginning of the rift started when His Excellency chose to consecrate Bishop Faure (but not him).  I wish I could say that the OLMC motives for criticizing Bishop Williamson were pure and motivated by principle, but I can't.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 11:44:59 AM
I also forgot to rebut one more point in Fr. Hewko's letter --

I'm not a son of Belial, or one "without yoke". I won't go so far as to say that CathInfo is Bp. Zendejas' forum, but it's also not true that I live my life (and run my forum) without yoke or direction from any priest or bishop.

I'm my own man, and I run the show here, but let's just say that multiple priests and bishops have an influence over me, even if their influence on CathInfo is only exercised in a negative manner. In other words, they don't tell me how to run the forum day-by-day, but they give occasional advice, input, correction, etc.

Bp. Williamson has given his explicit blessing on CathInfo on more than one occasion.

If CathInfo were as bad as Fr. Hewko believed, then the mainstream Resistance priests and bishops would steer clear of me. But the reality is the exact opposite.

Unlike Pablo, I do go to Mass, frequent confession, live a 7-day-a-week Catholic lifestyle, and am a Traditional Catholic in good standing. Furthermore, there are no scandals surrounding me or my family. All glory be to God.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 11:48:41 AM
I dare say that without such "gutter tabloids" as CathInfo, Father Hewko would still be promoting Ambrose Moran and counseling souls to receive dubious Sacraments from him.  He should thank CathInfo for the pressure created on him to re-examine Moran.  Otherwise he might already be subject to one Bishop Pfeiffer, or might even himself be walking around as Bishop Hewko.
Exactly!
Two words, and "the good of souls" is the first one.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: 1st Mansion Tenant on May 01, 2019, 12:03:19 PM
+W told FR Ph to disassociate himself from Pablo early on, and to remove Pablo from OLMC. How can the seminary or priests be trusted with larger things when they ignore such basic advice? Fr Hewko has now distanced himself from OLMC, now I pray he for his disinfection from it's contagion. It will take true humility and real charity on both sides to repair the breach created between Fr Hewko and the resistance bishops, but it must be done for the sake of many souls. Please, Fr Hewko, pray about this through the Blessed Virgin, whom I know you love and trust.  1MT

Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 12:11:26 PM
You know, I really do get sick and tired of waiting for REAL MEAT when it comes to criticism of CathInfo.

You know, specifics! Links! Details!

Instead, all I ever get is vague generalities, propaganda, poisoning the well, and name calling. Sometimes even outright lies told about me, CathInfo itself, and/or the CathInfo membership.

Come on, Fr. Hewko and others! If you really want to smash the evil CathInfo and look good to your followers, why not come up with some details! It shouldn't be that difficult to find a lump or two of crap in a cesspool, wouldn't you agree?  How hard is it to find a single instance of lies or libel (slander in written form) in a tabloid?

Based on the years of crickets chirping, it's apparently impossible!
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Mr G on May 01, 2019, 12:42:06 PM
You know, I really do get sick and tired of waiting for REAL MEAT when it comes to criticism of CathInfo.

You know, specifics! Links! Details!

Instead, all I ever get is vague generalities, propaganda, poisoning the well, and name calling. Sometimes even outright lies told about me, CathInfo itself, and/or the CathInfo membership.

Come on, Fr. Hewko and others! If you really want to smash the evil CathInfo and look good to your followers, why not come up with some details! It shouldn't be that difficult to find a lump or two of crap in a cesspool, wouldn't you agree?  How hard is it to find a single instance of lies or libel (slander in written form) in a tabloid?

Based on the years of crickets chirping, it's apparently impossible!
Here is the crazy stuff my wife has heard  from a Pfiiferite/Hewkonian friend:  "Matthew of CathInfo makes money off his site because he has advertisements and thus he must be influenced from his paid sponsors" 
Here are questions that they do not answers or even try to answer, because they can't without providing any proof: Influenced to do what? What proof? Which sponsor is manipulating Matthew? For what purpose?
But here  is their implied answer or what they hint at: To attack Fr. Pfiffer and Hewko, to spread lies about Pablo, to promote Bishop William and thus promote the New Mass and Novus Ordo miracles. 
As if Jeep/Chrysler is conspiring with Matthew to bring down the "True Resistance"!!
All I can say to these followers of Frs. Pfiffer and Hewko is: Dude you're craaazzzzy! You go to stop playing head bongo!
 
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 12:51:54 PM
Another thing --

CathInfo is not a blog. It's not a magazine. It's not a monolith. When you speak of "CathInfo" you are speaking about hundreds of Traditional Catholics, who are extremely varied in their education, state of life, age, location, opinions, you name it.

We can demonize the New York Times or the Washington Post because A) they ARE evil, and B) they are monolithic, completely controlled by their owners/editorial department. Nothing good comes from these publications.

Unless by "CathInfo" you are talking about official CathInfo moderation policy, then you might be talking about me personally.

I guess when you're in a cult, the idea of freedom or open information is pretty scary...
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: pnw1994 on May 01, 2019, 04:37:13 PM
I guess when you're in a cult, the idea of freedom or open information is pretty scary...
That's just it. I don't think it's possible to *really* understand what has gone on at Boston for the past several years without doing a little bit of reading into how cults work.
https://people.howstuffworks.com/cult4.htm (https://people.howstuffworks.com/cult4.htm)
In general, cults (and cult leaders) use a fairly consistent and standard set of techniques. It's scary, fascinating, and sheds a lot of light on how seemingly well-intentioned (and properly formed) people can get looped into believing ridiculous things, and doing awful things. Here are just a few examples:

Key hallmarks of a cult:

Thought reform - I can almost guarantee, with absolute certitude, that no priest formed at any of the Society's seminaries, REGARDLESS of their position on a practical agreement with Rome, would take so much as a second look at Ambrose Moran without instantly dismissing him as a crock. Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko were both formed by solid priests and bishops. They themselves preached solid doctrine up until a few years ago. Something SERIOUSLY changed in their way of thinking. Even the utter desperation of having no other Bishops should not normally be a grave enough concern to justify using Ambrose Moran. There has been some serious brainwashing going on. I can almost guarantee it. This can be understood on a psychological level.

Deception - There's absolutely no end to this. "Oh, Pablo is harmless..." "Oh, he isn't really actively involved in forming seminarians", "Oh, we're disassociating ourselves from Ambrose Moran." Cults cannot operate without a carefully constructed web of lies necessary to maintain the illusion.
Isolation - Fr. Pfeiffer has literally destroyed his connections with every other Resistance personality. He has destroyed friendships with Priests he has known for decades, has cut his faithful off from  resistance Priests and Bishops, and as far as he is concerned, Boston = Rome. There is not a single other group or priest that he can name who is preaching Catholic doctrine. Isolation to a T!

Induced Dependency - Fr. Pfeiffer has absolutely cultivated a network of induced dependency for those who attend his masses - complete red lighting of any Mass he doesn't personally approve of. Slandering other resistance personalities over, and over, and over.
It's pretty obvious that we're dealing with a cult here. But why? Why would Fr. Pfeiffer do this? Why would a seemingly normal Priest, presumably with a serious interior life, go completely off the rails. All any of us can do is speculate. I have my theories...cough..cough..Pablo, but either way, the demonic seems to be the most reasonable explanation.

So what about Fr. Hewko? I'm not one to rush to the modern healthcare system for problems that seem to be spiritual, but the fact is that Father Hewko has likely been profoundly psychologically affected by his close association with several very shady characters. He needs a lot of deprogramming and serious help. All we can do is pray, but I wouldn't expect Father Hewko to just change his mind any time soon. He will likely be dealing with this for years to come...
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 01, 2019, 04:47:52 PM
Here is the sane, sober testimony of a PRIEST -- 

Talk about "sticking to the important stuff" -- how about that which a good, devout priest, Fr. Voigt, chose to bring up?

https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-voigt-testimony-about-fr-pfeiffer-and-boston-ky-seminary/ (https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-voigt-testimony-about-fr-pfeiffer-and-boston-ky-seminary/)
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: confederate catholic on May 01, 2019, 05:04:31 PM
Also it is foolish to think +ABL would have the exact same opinion on everything were he alive now. One simple example comes to mind from Fr H letter the indult, to which the condition of agreement with the New Mass. It does not exist anymore, just on this small point alone is a nuance, can we actually know what the Archbishop would say about this small difference?  Fr H has probably spent little time thinking about things which are happening now, which is quite frankly quite telling. Life is rarely paint by numbers
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: confederate catholic on May 01, 2019, 05:10:39 PM
Also Matthew we are all clambering for the one cent you get from ads :facepalm:

seriously that is an egregious calumny, what is Fr H thinking?
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Ekim on May 01, 2019, 06:48:49 PM
Interesting letter Fr. Hewko, but you need to find a Bishop and humbly submit yourself to his direction.

No more excuses.

Enough said!
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: RevolveBooks on May 01, 2019, 06:52:53 PM
I live in Kentucky and personally know all the parties involved in these various Pfeifferville cult threads (I've never met Martin but know his brother Chris).  I don't comment much but I just have to say this.

Even IF (and that's a huge IF) Hernandez were a good Christian man he still would need to leave OLMC because he is not clergy.  He doesn't have a legitimate place there.  And I thought his dog's name was Blue.  Bradleyman did cremate the dead dog.  He told me personally.

It's true Fr Hewko always liked PtM because he thinks him manly.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: RoughAshlar on May 01, 2019, 07:15:45 PM
I dare say that without such "gutter tabloids" as CathInfo, Father Hewko would still be promoting Ambrose Moran and counseling souls to receive dubious Sacraments from him.  He should thank CathInfo for the pressure created on him to re-examine Moran.  Otherwise he might already be subject to one Bishop Pfeiffer, or might even himself be walking around as Bishop Hewko.
Thank you for saying this.  CathInfo provides so much information that my parents could have used decades before the internet took off.  I remember being admonished by the priest in IHM in St. Paul when I questioned about talks with Rome back.. in what...2012.  Claiming the sin of presumption for questioning the SSPX hierarchy.  We were told not to be speaking about it.  Its about controlling information. In part, leads to part of the reason why Fr. Hewko left. It really sounds like Fr. Hewko wants to control what information is out there and thus bashes CI.  Fr. Hewko needs a bishop, not just for oils and sacraments, but also for guidance.  If nothing else, he should go back to Silver City.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Pax Vobis on May 01, 2019, 07:34:42 PM
Anyone who says that Cathinfo is a publication or a journalistic endeavor (as Fr H alluded to) is mistaken.  As Matthew said - it’s not even a blog.  It’s basically an electronic catholic social club.   Most are here for the Truth, to find information on current events, to learn about history, to debate doctrine, and to post catholic-focused information.

Anyone can join, male or female (...how PC, progressive and tolerant!  Love is everywhere here!) with minimal rules, as long as you’re not overtly anti-catholic, or anti-club President.  Most topics are welcome and the site changes weekly and sometimes daily in focus.  It would probably never work in real life, as it brings together young and old, rich and poor, educated and uneducated, religious and layman, etc.  It’s a very unique thing in all of history. It’s a very big blessing.  

Thank you, Matthew, for making it happen.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Ladislaus on May 01, 2019, 07:47:43 PM
Anyone can join, male or female (...how PC, progressive and tolerant!

poche is living proof of that.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: chrstnoel1 on May 02, 2019, 05:15:11 AM
poche is living proof of that.
:laugh1: :laugh2:
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Incredulous on May 02, 2019, 09:47:40 AM
You know, I really do get sick and tired of waiting for REAL MEAT when it comes to criticism of CathInfo.

You know, specifics! Links! Details!

Instead, all I ever get is vague generalities, propaganda, poisoning the well, and name calling. Sometimes even outright lies told about me, CathInfo itself, and/or the CathInfo membership.

Come on, Fr. Hewko and others! If you really want to smash the evil CathInfo and look good to your followers, why not come up with some details! It shouldn't be that difficult to find a lump or two of crap in a cesspool, wouldn't you agree?  How hard is it to find a single instance of lies or libel (slander in written form) in a tabloid?

Based on the years of crickets chirping, it's apparently impossible!
(http://laportelatine.org/images/portrait/wegner_140828.jpg)
"Traditional Catholic gossip and dissension is not acceptable"
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Seraphina on May 02, 2019, 06:07:55 PM
It's true Fr Hewko always liked PtM because he thinks him manly.
Please name one thing manly about ordering an elderly woman in poor health to clean a filthy kitchen, especially when that woman is Fr. Pfeiffer's mother.  When her husband called for her to put down the dish towel and come home, the manly reply was, "Shut up, old man."  Then there was the manly of ordering me to shower, wear a  bathrobe, and sleep in a designated bed while he, Pablo, had me locked into a house. Since when does making a woman fear for her virtue make for manliness?  Killing a kitten to hurt the feelings of an emotionally fragile soul is always manly.  So is making a personal gift of $500 which I discovered to be a donation designated of the purchase of office supplies.  It was given me for gas money for my personal use, probably to hide the misuse of other funds from a third party to whom they were owed.  When I had the opportunity to return the money to Fr. Hewko, he refused to take it, even after explaining where the money had come from and who had given it to me. (I gave it to a person unable to pay her medical bills.)
I recognized then that Fr. Hewko's moral compass had become compromised, and this was in about 2014.  
If PtM is Fr. Hewko's idea of manliness, may I suggest he study Our Lord Himself and St. Joseph.  
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Smedley Butler on May 10, 2019, 07:57:14 AM
In my personal opinion, Fr. Hewko's attacking of CI and calling it a "gutter tabloid" has EVERYTHING to do with the critical spotlight CI shined upon him.

It's all fun & games until somebody loses an eye, you know?

This is the fundamental purpose that CI can provide: to shine a spotlight on the corruption in the Church, and the bad actions that hurt the faithful: from the NO or the SSPX or the Resistance. And it seems he very much disliked the blowback that he got from the "public" after leaving Fr. Pfeiffer's camp for the public daring to ask him why he stood silent and complicit for so LONG.

He deserves the hard questions from the public, whether he likes it or not. He's just lashing out at the venue Matthew provides.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Smedley Butler on May 10, 2019, 08:05:28 AM
I also think that Fr. Hewko's assertion that CI is "profitable" and that Matthew makes money off it is really ridiculous.

The venue costs money to run, it's not free. The ads keep it running, but I sincerely doubt it is at all "profitable."
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Matthew on May 10, 2019, 08:10:13 AM
By the way, Smedley, I meant to say that Fr. Hewko doesn't have a GOOD reason, or a LEGIT reason, to reject all 4 Resistance bishops.

Of course he has a "reason" in his own mind. Hillary Clinton had a "reason" to commit treason, to consent to or cause the deaths of many people over the years, etc. That reason certainly wasn't a good reason, a noble reason, or any kind of legit reason -- but she had a reason! (self-aggrandizement, increasing personal wealth, avoiding prison, etc.)
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
Post by: Smedley Butler on May 10, 2019, 08:21:52 AM
Agreed.