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Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2019, 11:42:43 AM »
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  • It's also interesting that their campaign against Bishop Williamson began long before His Excellency's comments regarding the New Mass.  They of course pounced opportunistically on the comments as if to say, "See, we told you he was bad."  And didn't Father Pfeiffer himself make similar comments at one point about the NOM?

    So what was their issue with him BEFORE those comments?  That he wouldn't consecrate Bishop Pfeiffer and endorse his seminary.  Great sins against the Catholic faith those.  In fact, I sensed that the beginning of the rift started when His Excellency chose to consecrate Bishop Faure (but not him).  I wish I could say that the OLMC motives for criticizing Bishop Williamson were pure and motivated by principle, but I can't.

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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #16 on: May 01, 2019, 11:44:59 AM »
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  • I also forgot to rebut one more point in Fr. Hewko's letter --

    I'm not a son of Belial, or one "without yoke". I won't go so far as to say that CathInfo is Bp. Zendejas' forum, but it's also not true that I live my life (and run my forum) without yoke or direction from any priest or bishop.

    I'm my own man, and I run the show here, but let's just say that multiple priests and bishops have an influence over me, even if their influence on CathInfo is only exercised in a negative manner. In other words, they don't tell me how to run the forum day-by-day, but they give occasional advice, input, correction, etc.

    Bp. Williamson has given his explicit blessing on CathInfo on more than one occasion.

    If CathInfo were as bad as Fr. Hewko believed, then the mainstream Resistance priests and bishops would steer clear of me. But the reality is the exact opposite.

    Unlike Pablo, I do go to Mass, frequent confession, live a 7-day-a-week Catholic lifestyle, and am a Traditional Catholic in good standing. Furthermore, there are no scandals surrounding me or my family. All glory be to God.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #17 on: May 01, 2019, 11:48:41 AM »
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  • I dare say that without such "gutter tabloids" as CathInfo, Father Hewko would still be promoting Ambrose Moran and counseling souls to receive dubious Sacraments from him.  He should thank CathInfo for the pressure created on him to re-examine Moran.  Otherwise he might already be subject to one Bishop Pfeiffer, or might even himself be walking around as Bishop Hewko.
    Exactly!
    Two words, and "the good of souls" is the first one.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #18 on: May 01, 2019, 12:03:19 PM »
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  • +W told FR Ph to disassociate himself from Pablo early on, and to remove Pablo from OLMC. How can the seminary or priests be trusted with larger things when they ignore such basic advice? Fr Hewko has now distanced himself from OLMC, now I pray he for his disinfection from it's contagion. It will take true humility and real charity on both sides to repair the breach created between Fr Hewko and the resistance bishops, but it must be done for the sake of many souls. Please, Fr Hewko, pray about this through the Blessed Virgin, whom I know you love and trust.  1MT


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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #19 on: May 01, 2019, 12:11:26 PM »
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  • You know, I really do get sick and tired of waiting for REAL MEAT when it comes to criticism of CathInfo.

    You know, specifics! Links! Details!

    Instead, all I ever get is vague generalities, propaganda, poisoning the well, and name calling. Sometimes even outright lies told about me, CathInfo itself, and/or the CathInfo membership.

    Come on, Fr. Hewko and others! If you really want to smash the evil CathInfo and look good to your followers, why not come up with some details! It shouldn't be that difficult to find a lump or two of crap in a cesspool, wouldn't you agree?  How hard is it to find a single instance of lies or libel (slander in written form) in a tabloid?

    Based on the years of crickets chirping, it's apparently impossible!
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #20 on: May 01, 2019, 12:42:06 PM »
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  • You know, I really do get sick and tired of waiting for REAL MEAT when it comes to criticism of CathInfo.

    You know, specifics! Links! Details!

    Instead, all I ever get is vague generalities, propaganda, poisoning the well, and name calling. Sometimes even outright lies told about me, CathInfo itself, and/or the CathInfo membership.

    Come on, Fr. Hewko and others! If you really want to smash the evil CathInfo and look good to your followers, why not come up with some details! It shouldn't be that difficult to find a lump or two of crap in a cesspool, wouldn't you agree?  How hard is it to find a single instance of lies or libel (slander in written form) in a tabloid?

    Based on the years of crickets chirping, it's apparently impossible!
    Here is the crazy stuff my wife has heard  from a Pfiiferite/Hewkonian friend:  "Matthew of CathInfo makes money off his site because he has advertisements and thus he must be influenced from his paid sponsors" 
    Here are questions that they do not answers or even try to answer, because they can't without providing any proof: Influenced to do what? What proof? Which sponsor is manipulating Matthew? For what purpose?
    But here  is their implied answer or what they hint at: To attack Fr. Pfiffer and Hewko, to spread lies about Pablo, to promote Bishop William and thus promote the New Mass and Novus Ordo miracles. 
    As if Jeep/Chrysler is conspiring with Matthew to bring down the "True Resistance"!!
    All I can say to these followers of Frs. Pfiffer and Hewko is: Dude you're craaazzzzy! You go to stop playing head bongo!
     

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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #21 on: May 01, 2019, 12:51:54 PM »
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  • Another thing --

    CathInfo is not a blog. It's not a magazine. It's not a monolith. When you speak of "CathInfo" you are speaking about hundreds of Traditional Catholics, who are extremely varied in their education, state of life, age, location, opinions, you name it.

    We can demonize the New York Times or the Washington Post because A) they ARE evil, and B) they are monolithic, completely controlled by their owners/editorial department. Nothing good comes from these publications.

    Unless by "CathInfo" you are talking about official CathInfo moderation policy, then you might be talking about me personally.

    I guess when you're in a cult, the idea of freedom or open information is pretty scary...
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #22 on: May 01, 2019, 04:37:13 PM »
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  • I guess when you're in a cult, the idea of freedom or open information is pretty scary...
    That's just it. I don't think it's possible to *really* understand what has gone on at Boston for the past several years without doing a little bit of reading into how cults work.
    https://people.howstuffworks.com/cult4.htm
    In general, cults (and cult leaders) use a fairly consistent and standard set of techniques. It's scary, fascinating, and sheds a lot of light on how seemingly well-intentioned (and properly formed) people can get looped into believing ridiculous things, and doing awful things. Here are just a few examples:

    Key hallmarks of a cult:

    Thought reform - I can almost guarantee, with absolute certitude, that no priest formed at any of the Society's seminaries, REGARDLESS of their position on a practical agreement with Rome, would take so much as a second look at Ambrose Moran without instantly dismissing him as a crock. Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko were both formed by solid priests and bishops. They themselves preached solid doctrine up until a few years ago. Something SERIOUSLY changed in their way of thinking. Even the utter desperation of having no other Bishops should not normally be a grave enough concern to justify using Ambrose Moran. There has been some serious brainwashing going on. I can almost guarantee it. This can be understood on a psychological level.

    Deception - There's absolutely no end to this. "Oh, Pablo is harmless..." "Oh, he isn't really actively involved in forming seminarians", "Oh, we're disassociating ourselves from Ambrose Moran." Cults cannot operate without a carefully constructed web of lies necessary to maintain the illusion.
    Isolation - Fr. Pfeiffer has literally destroyed his connections with every other Resistance personality. He has destroyed friendships with Priests he has known for decades, has cut his faithful off from  resistance Priests and Bishops, and as far as he is concerned, Boston = Rome. There is not a single other group or priest that he can name who is preaching Catholic doctrine. Isolation to a T!

    Induced Dependency - Fr. Pfeiffer has absolutely cultivated a network of induced dependency for those who attend his masses - complete red lighting of any Mass he doesn't personally approve of. Slandering other resistance personalities over, and over, and over.
    It's pretty obvious that we're dealing with a cult here. But why? Why would Fr. Pfeiffer do this? Why would a seemingly normal Priest, presumably with a serious interior life, go completely off the rails. All any of us can do is speculate. I have my theories...cough..cough..Pablo, but either way, the demonic seems to be the most reasonable explanation.

    So what about Fr. Hewko? I'm not one to rush to the modern healthcare system for problems that seem to be spiritual, but the fact is that Father Hewko has likely been profoundly psychologically affected by his close association with several very shady characters. He needs a lot of deprogramming and serious help. All we can do is pray, but I wouldn't expect Father Hewko to just change his mind any time soon. He will likely be dealing with this for years to come...
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    That has not first abandoned Him.


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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #23 on: May 01, 2019, 04:47:52 PM »
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  • Here is the sane, sober testimony of a PRIEST -- 

    Talk about "sticking to the important stuff" -- how about that which a good, devout priest, Fr. Voigt, chose to bring up?

    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-voigt-testimony-about-fr-pfeiffer-and-boston-ky-seminary/
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #24 on: May 01, 2019, 05:04:31 PM »
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  • Also it is foolish to think +ABL would have the exact same opinion on everything were he alive now. One simple example comes to mind from Fr H letter the indult, to which the condition of agreement with the New Mass. It does not exist anymore, just on this small point alone is a nuance, can we actually know what the Archbishop would say about this small difference?  Fr H has probably spent little time thinking about things which are happening now, which is quite frankly quite telling. Life is rarely paint by numbers
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #25 on: May 01, 2019, 05:10:39 PM »
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  • Also Matthew we are all clambering for the one cent you get from ads :facepalm:

    seriously that is an egregious calumny, what is Fr H thinking?
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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #26 on: May 01, 2019, 06:48:49 PM »
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  • Interesting letter Fr. Hewko, but you need to find a Bishop and humbly submit yourself to his direction.

    No more excuses.

    Enough said!

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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #27 on: May 01, 2019, 06:52:53 PM »
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  • I live in Kentucky and personally know all the parties involved in these various Pfeifferville cult threads (I've never met Martin but know his brother Chris).  I don't comment much but I just have to say this.

    Even IF (and that's a huge IF) Hernandez were a good Christian man he still would need to leave OLMC because he is not clergy.  He doesn't have a legitimate place there.  And I thought his dog's name was Blue.  Bradleyman did cremate the dead dog.  He told me personally.

    It's true Fr Hewko always liked PtM because he thinks him manly.

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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #28 on: May 01, 2019, 07:15:45 PM »
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  • I dare say that without such "gutter tabloids" as CathInfo, Father Hewko would still be promoting Ambrose Moran and counseling souls to receive dubious Sacraments from him.  He should thank CathInfo for the pressure created on him to re-examine Moran.  Otherwise he might already be subject to one Bishop Pfeiffer, or might even himself be walking around as Bishop Hewko.
    Thank you for saying this.  CathInfo provides so much information that my parents could have used decades before the internet took off.  I remember being admonished by the priest in IHM in St. Paul when I questioned about talks with Rome back.. in what...2012.  Claiming the sin of presumption for questioning the SSPX hierarchy.  We were told not to be speaking about it.  Its about controlling information. In part, leads to part of the reason why Fr. Hewko left. It really sounds like Fr. Hewko wants to control what information is out there and thus bashes CI.  Fr. Hewko needs a bishop, not just for oils and sacraments, but also for guidance.  If nothing else, he should go back to Silver City.

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    Re: Fr. Hewko update May 2019 - he still opposes Resistance, CathInfo
    « Reply #29 on: May 01, 2019, 07:34:42 PM »
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  • Anyone who says that Cathinfo is a publication or a journalistic endeavor (as Fr H alluded to) is mistaken.  As Matthew said - it’s not even a blog.  It’s basically an electronic catholic social club.   Most are here for the Truth, to find information on current events, to learn about history, to debate doctrine, and to post catholic-focused information.

    Anyone can join, male or female (...how PC, progressive and tolerant!  Love is everywhere here!) with minimal rules, as long as you’re not overtly anti-catholic, or anti-club President.  Most topics are welcome and the site changes weekly and sometimes daily in focus.  It would probably never work in real life, as it brings together young and old, rich and poor, educated and uneducated, religious and layman, etc.  It’s a very unique thing in all of history. It’s a very big blessing.  

    Thank you, Matthew, for making it happen.


     

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