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Fr. Hewko still firmly red-lights Fr. Zendejas
« on: December 07, 2015, 10:10:00 PM »
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  • In a recent sermon (last Sunday?) he gave "10 questions" to ask any priest before you attend their Mass.

    One of them was something along the lines of, "If he is ex-SSPX, have him produce his formal statement in writing. If he refuses, you must red-light."

    (Why not just read Fr. Zendejas sermons online here? https://latinmasstexas.wordpress.com/fr-gerardo-zendejas-sermons/ )

    So they're still sticking to their ridiculous red-light position towards Fr. Zendejas and other faithful (resistant) priests.

    One thing to note: No one posted this on CathInfo -- eventually I heard it from someone by phone. So apparently fewer people are paying attention to Boston, KY and their nonsense. There was a time when something this ridiculous/controversial would have been posted on CI right away. Not anymore.

    These guys aren't even making sense anymore. First of all, Fr. Zendejas sermons or "blue papers" are all over the Net now. If those don't count as a written statement of his doctrine, I don't know what does. Second of all, Fr. Pfeiffer has recently attacked several of these blue papers in his sermons. I'd love to know what he twisted in them; I've read the blue papers and they're 100% Catholic doctrine. But this is Fr. Pfeiffer, remember. He's "fighting the good fight" doing everything in his power to muster the troops to attack Fr. Zendejas, Bishop Faure, and Bishop Williamson. You know, the "real enemy" we should be fighting.

     :rolleyes:

    He is going further and further downhill.

    As he loses support (catastrophically in some areas of the country) he is becoming increasingly desperate, and is approaching full-on bat-$$$$ crazy mode right now. He is in kamikaze mode against the Resistance. He is like a James Bond or Saturday Morning Cartoon villain who is about to lose, is desperate, and throws the self destruct switch on the nuclear reactor and breaks it off so no one can fix it. "Drats!  Since it has come to this, I'll take you all with me, bwahahaha!" He is doing untold damage to souls, the Resistance, and the Church founded by Christ -- all for what? Pablo? His violet zucchetto ambitions?

    It's like he wants to lay waste the Resistance (disolve) so he can build it back up (coagula) in his own image, as bishop of course (consecrated by Ambrose). Once the Resistance is in ruins and we're all desperate and confused, then he will come in as our savior. He wants to convince us that +Williamson and +Faure are evil, so that's why he needs Ambrose. That's his insane plan, pretty much.

    His lame joke of an attempt to "distance" himself from Ambrose is merely to buy himself some time until he can "destroy" his competition. That is why he's on full-on attack mode right now.

    Bishop Fellay? Accordistas? GREC? Modernists in Rome? The myriad errors of the Modern World? Schismatics? Who cares. The real enemy, on whom ALL our energy must be spent, is Fr. Zendejas and the two Resistant bishops!

    It would almost be funny, except that the devil is the only one laughing.

    But, then again, the devil might be closer than you think to this situation.
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    Fr. Hewko still firmly red-lights Fr. Zendejas
    « Reply #1 on: December 08, 2015, 08:38:14 AM »
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  • To anyone who still hopes that Fr. Hewko will separate himself from Fr. Pfeiffer, you are going to be sadly disappointed.  They are like two peas in a pod -- different in personality and style but of the same mind.  Both of them were loose cannons while in the Society and now on their own, accepting of no authority, they will continue to self-destruct.  They both need a strong hand to hold them in check but that is something they refuse to accept.  Actually, who would want to deal with such problem priests as they are?  


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    « Reply #2 on: December 08, 2015, 09:07:01 AM »
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    To anyone who still hopes that Fr. Hewko will separate himself from Fr. Pfeiffer, you are going to be sadly disappointed.  They are like two peas in a pod -- different in personality and style but of the same mind.  Both of them were loose cannons while in the Society and now on their own, accepting of no authority, they will continue to self-destruct.  They both need a strong hand to hold them in check but that is something they refuse to accept.  Actually, who would want to deal with such problem priests as they are?  


    Fr. Hewko is a follower and could never operate as an independent like Frs. Zendejas, Ringrose, Voigt. He will take on the colors of whomever he is "attached" to.  His attachment to Fr. Pfeiffer was, by all accounts, solidified at Winona on the eve of Fr. Hewko's now-famous First Mass sermon. If he detached from Fr. Pfeiffer and fell under the tutelage of Fr. Zendejas, he would assimilate his character. He is passionate and Catholic, but is a 49 year old teenager in reality, no disrespect intended.

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    « Reply #3 on: December 08, 2015, 09:25:19 AM »
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  • I cannot express my sadness at how all this is going down. I liked both priests and was so proud of them for standing up. I had really been hoping that the instability of the situation was causing some quirks that would eventually straighten out. I still cannot help hoping that, however weak it is getting.

    I think back to when this all broke, there were two sides and two minds. One side thought the Resistance would rise up as a massive organization and "show" the neo-SSPX what was what. The other side warned of the pride involved in such a dream, that God would work much more humbly and seemingly fruitlessly than that. Bishop Williamson called it from the beginning with the "loose network of independent priests". It's a bit of an "I told you so" moment to see the crash and burn out there, but there is nothing triumphant about it. These are things you pray to be wrong about.




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    « Reply #4 on: December 08, 2015, 09:54:07 AM »
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  • Father recently discussed the blue papers at our Mass site. Some of the quoted passages do raise some questions which I would love to have answered, in order to remove any uncertainty or doubt. I feel that these questions are better left directed to the author of the blue paper, before any public assessment of the writing in question.

    How could I send my questions to Father Zendejas? I would rather ask questions than leave it to speculation.


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    Fr. Hewko still firmly red-lights Fr. Zendejas
    « Reply #5 on: December 08, 2015, 10:01:36 AM »
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    To anyone who still hopes that Fr. Hewko will separate himself from Fr. Pfeiffer, you are going to be sadly disappointed.  They are like two peas in a pod -- different in personality and style but of the same mind.  Both of them were loose cannons while in the Society and now on their own, accepting of no authority, they will continue to self-destruct.  They both need a strong hand to hold them in check but that is something they refuse to accept.  Actually, who would want to deal with such problem priests as they are?  


    Fr. Hewko is a follower and could never operate as an independent like Frs. Zendejas, Ringrose, Voigt. He will take on the colors of whomever he is "attached" to.  His attachment to Fr. Pfeiffer was, by all accounts, solidified at Winona on the eve of Fr. Hewko's now-famous First Mass sermon. If he detached from Fr. Pfeiffer and fell under the tutelage of Fr. Zendejas, he would assimilate his character. He is passionate and Catholic, but is a 49 year old teenager in reality, no disrespect intended.


    Personally, I like Fr. Hewko and I agree that he is more of a follower than a leader.  However, he has a very strong self-will which makes it difficult for him to follow rules if they conflict with what he wants to do. The same can be said of Fr. Pfeiffer.  Neither one of them is good at putting their own ambitions aside for the greater good.  

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    « Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 10:13:28 AM »
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  • This is absolutely ridiculous.  Where does Fr.  Zendejas stand? Really?  Criticizing Fr Zendejas is more ridiculous than the Neo- SSPX criticizing the Consecration of Bishop Faure by Bishop Williamson.  The devil is at work.  With all due respect Fr. Hewko, please run from KY, take a sabbatical and look at it from the outside.  

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    « Reply #7 on: December 08, 2015, 11:33:44 AM »
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    This is absolutely ridiculous.  Where does Fr.  Zendejas stand? Really?  Criticizing Fr Zendejas is more ridiculous than the Neo- SSPX criticizing the Consecration of Bishop Faure by Bishop Williamson.  The devil is at work.  With all due respect Fr. Hewko, please run from KY, take a sabbatical and look at it from the outside.  


    Of course it's ridiculous.  They know where he stands but pretend not to so as to lead people away from him.  Those of us who know Fr. Zendejas can only be repulsed by this deliberate deceptive game they play.  


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    « Reply #8 on: December 08, 2015, 11:35:52 AM »
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  • This is ironic because the handful of pfeifferites in England behind the wrecusant got Fr Jacqmin to come over from Belgium for them. He seems officially to be still within SSPX and has made no recent written public declaration of his current position. So the pfeifferites can't even follow the advice of one of their leaders. What a mess !

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    « Reply #9 on: December 08, 2015, 12:06:44 PM »
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    This is ironic because the handful of pfeifferites in England behind the wrecusant got Fr Jacqmin to come over from Belgium for them. He seems officially to be still within SSPX and has made no recent written public declaration of his current position. So the pfeifferites can't even follow the advice of one of their leaders. What a mess !


    The Pfeifferites here go to the indult Mass on the off-weeks +Hewko isn't here.  Try and digest that one!

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    « Reply #10 on: December 08, 2015, 12:48:23 PM »
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    This is ironic because the handful of pfeifferites in England behind the wrecusant got Fr Jacqmin to come over from Belgium for them. He seems officially to be still within SSPX and has made no recent written public declaration of his current position. So the pfeifferites can't even follow the advice of one of their leaders. What a mess !


    The Pfeifferites here go to the indult Mass on the off-weeks +Hewko isn't here.  Try and digest that one!


    Where is the "red light" on that!!??


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    « Reply #11 on: December 08, 2015, 01:08:56 PM »
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    This is ironic because the handful of pfeifferites in England behind the wrecusant got Fr Jacqmin to come over from Belgium for them. He seems officially to be still within SSPX and has made no recent written public declaration of his current position. So the pfeifferites can't even follow the advice of one of their leaders. What a mess !


    There are many inconsistencies like that, with Fr. Pfeiffer & his followers.

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    « Reply #12 on: December 08, 2015, 02:01:20 PM »
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  • These poor souls have had their minds frazzled by OLMC, as happens with most cults. This mentality is demonstrated by the fact that both Fr Pfeiffer and Fr Hewko think that they are the RESISTANCE, and nobody else comes up to match.

    Everyone stop giving them money and they may then start to listen when the $$$ run low.

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    « Reply #13 on: December 08, 2015, 03:22:39 PM »
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    These poor souls have had their minds frazzled by OLMC, as happens with most cults. This mentality is demonstrated by the fact that both Fr Pfeiffer and Fr Hewko think that they are the RESISTANCE, and nobody else comes up to match.

    Everyone stop giving them money and they may then start to listen when the $$$ run low.


    OLMC is not a cult. Fathers Pfeiffer and Hewko are part of the Resistance. They are not perfect, but they are not cult leaders, nor do they deserve to be labeled as such.

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    « Reply #14 on: December 08, 2015, 03:31:14 PM »
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    How could I send my questions to Father Zendejas? I would rather ask questions than leave it to speculation.


    He'll be in TX on Sunday. You know the way.
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