I noticed all the cars and RVs and tents too. I think so many people are showing up is because of the seminary moving out to Virginia. The people living in the Midwest won't be able to attend ordination ceremonies like they can now.
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[quote:sea leopard said]"Therefore, the BEST Fr. could do, was pray his Breviary, parked on a PUBLIC road at the same elevation (actually higher) a very short distance away, (feet, not miles) during the ordination of his nephew."
Quote from: Neil ObstatQuote from: sea leopardTherefore, the BEST Fr. could do, was pray his Breviary, parked on a PUBLIC road at the same elevation (actually higher) a very short distance away, (feet, not miles) during the ordination of his nephew.
Rather, the "BEST" he could have done would be to arrive in a
disguise, and be up close to see his nephew ordained, and then
leave quietly.
Good leadership would have given him a seat up close to see his nephew ordained regardless of their differences. It's too bad it wasn't so.
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"Therefore, the BEST Fr. could do, was pray his Breviary, parked on a PUBLIC road at the same elevation (actually higher) a very short distance away, (feet, not miles) during the ordination of his nephew."
Rather, the "BEST" he could have done would be to arrive in a
disguise, and be up close to see his nephew ordained, and then
leave quietly.
Folks, I find this very sad--that Fr. Hewko was effectively barred from attending his own nephew's ordination.
The "let's just focus on holiness" hierarchy of the Neo-SSPX missed a golden opportunity to show that they actually have a heart. They don't!
This fits right in with the expulsions and the denial of the Sacraments. After all these abuses, they still insist on teaching us a thing or two about "prudence" and "charity"?
Good leadership would have given him a seat up close to see his nephew ordained regardless of their differences. It's too bad it wasn't so.
You're correct: it is a most problematic indictment of the ExSPX that
would so ominously prohibit a Society priest in good standing from
being present for his own nephew's ordination.
It is as though they were trying to set him up for a confrontation. He
was not there for the purpose of any confrontation. But they would
try to make it seem like he was.
This story is not finished.
The Menzingen-denizens are terrified of the Resistance.
Quote from: Neil Obstat.
"Therefore, the BEST Fr. could do, was pray his Breviary, parked on a PUBLIC road at the same elevation (actually higher) a very short distance away, (feet, not miles) during the ordination of his nephew."
Rather, the "BEST" he could have done would be to arrive in a
disguise, and be up close to see his nephew ordained, and then
leave quietly.
His nephew asked that he not come, as they had look-outs for him, and Fr Hewko respected his nephew's request.
Quote from: MithrandylanQuote from: Neil Obstat.
"Therefore, the BEST Fr. could do, was pray his Breviary, parked on a PUBLIC road at the same elevation (actually higher) a very short distance away, (feet, not miles) during the ordination of his nephew."
Rather, the "BEST" he could have done would be to arrive in a
disguise, and be up close to see his nephew ordained, and then
leave quietly.
His nephew asked that he not come, as they had look-outs for him, and Fr Hewko respected his nephew's request.
Mithrandylan,
Can you please support that?
Thank you.
His nephew asked that he not come, as they had look-outs for him, and Fr Hewko respected his nephew's request.
Quote from: MithrandylanHis nephew asked that he not come, as they had look-outs for him, and Fr Hewko respected his nephew's request.
How sad for the nephew to say something like that. I guess it shows which side of the fence he is on.
Marsha
Quote from: MithrandylanHis nephew asked that he not come, as they had look-outs for him, and Fr Hewko respected his nephew's request.
How sad for the nephew to say something like that. I guess it shows which side of the fence he is on.
Marsha
Quote from: SkunkwurxsspxFolks, I find this very sad--that Fr. Hewko was effectively barred from attending his own nephew's ordination.
The "let's just focus on holiness" hierarchy of the Neo-SSPX missed a golden opportunity to show that they actually have a heart. They don't!
This fits right in with the expulsions and the denial of the Sacraments. After all these abuses, they still insist on teaching us a thing or two about "prudence" and "charity"?
Quite right. New Society is using the same tactics as New Church (which they borrow from masons, commies and liberals). The gospel of tolerance. New Church tolerates everyone except those who don't tolerate New Church. Schismatics, Buddhists, Mohams, Jews-- all under the tent of New Church, all traveling their own road to salvation, except traditionalists.
New Society tolerates indultarians, sedevacantists and even Novus Ordites to attend and communicate at their masses-- but Resistance faithful? No way!
Notice the pattern?
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Good leadership would have given him a seat up close to see his nephew ordained regardless of their differences. It's too bad it wasn't so.
You're correct: it is a most problematic indictment of the ExSPX that
would so ominously prohibit a Society priest in good standing from
being present for his own nephew's ordination.
It is as though they were trying to set him up for a confrontation. He
was not there for the purpose of any confrontation. But they would
try to make it seem like he was.
This story is not finished.
The Menzingen-denizens are terrified of the Resistance.
As well they should be.
In other news, the devil is terrified of the Crucifix.
Quote from: MarlelarQuote from: MithrandylanHis nephew asked that he not come, as they had look-outs for him, and Fr Hewko respected his nephew's request.
How sad for the nephew to say something like that. I guess it shows which side of the fence he is on.
Marsha
The entire situation is sad-- but the impression was not that the nephew did not want Fr Hewko there because he is a resistance priest, but because Fr Hewko would have been refused admittance.
Quote from: MarlelarQuote from: MithrandylanHis nephew asked that he not come, as they had look-outs for him, and Fr Hewko respected his nephew's request.
How sad for the nephew to say something like that. I guess it shows which side of the fence he is on.
Marsha
In addition, that none of the SSPX ordinates [ordinands] would have been ordained if they did not accept the new doctrine of Menzingen; like last year's situation with the Dominicans and the Capuchins.
Welcome to the new generation of neo-trads...
Quote from: MithrandylanQuote from: SkunkwurxsspxFolks, I find this very sad--that Fr. Hewko was effectively barred from attending his own nephew's ordination.
The "let's just focus on holiness" hierarchy of the Neo-SSPX missed a golden opportunity to show that they actually have a heart.
They don't!
QuoteQuoteThis fits right in with the expulsions and the denial of the Sacraments. After all these abuses, they still insist on teaching us a thing or two about "prudence" and "charity"?
QuoteQuite right. New Society is using the same tactics as New Church (which they borrow from masons, commies and liberals). The gospel of tolerance. New Church tolerates everyone except those who don't tolerate New Church. Schismatics, Buddhists, Mohams, Jews-- all under the tent of New Church, all traveling their own road to 'salvation', except traditionalists.
New Society tolerates indultarians, sedevacantists and even Novus Ordites to attend and communicate at their masses-- but Resistance faithful? No way!
Notice the pattern?
You are so right. This is typical novus ordo. What a disgrace.
THIS IS NOT CATHOLIC. THIS OFFENDS GOD!
Father Hewko is our priest when he comes to Philly. We thank God and our blessed Mother for providing us with a real Catholic Priest. Resistance priests are real Catholic priests.
Quote from: SkunkwurxsspxFolks, I find this very sad--that Fr. Hewko was effectively barred from attending his own nephew's ordination.
The "let's just focus on holiness" hierarchy of the Neo-SSPX missed a golden opportunity to show that they actually have a heart. They don't!
This fits right in with the expulsions and the denial of the Sacraments. After all these abuses, they still insist on teaching us a thing or two about "prudence" and "charity"?
Quite right. New Society is using the same tactics as New Church (which they borrow from masons, commies and liberals). The gospel of tolerance. New Church tolerates everyone except those who don't tolerate New Church. Schismatics, Buddhists, Mohams, Jews-- all under the tent of New Church, all traveling their own road to salvation, except traditionalists.
New Society tolerates indultarians, sedevacantists and even Novus Ordites to attend and communicate at their masses-- but Resistance faithful? No way!
Notice the pattern?
Quote from: MithrandylanQuote from: SkunkwurxsspxFolks, I find this very sad--that Fr. Hewko was effectively barred from attending his own nephew's ordination.
The "let's just focus on holiness" hierarchy of the Neo-SSPX missed a golden opportunity to show that they actually have a heart. They don't!
This fits right in with the expulsions and the denial of the Sacraments. After all these abuses, they still insist on teaching us a thing or two about "prudence" and "charity"?
Quite right. New Society is using the same tactics as New Church (which they borrow from masons, commies and liberals). The gospel of tolerance. New Church tolerates everyone except those who don't tolerate New Church. Schismatics, Buddhists, Mohams, Jews-- all under the tent of New Church, all traveling their own road to salvation, except traditionalists.
New Society tolerates indultarians, sedevacantists and even Novus Ordites to attend and communicate at their masses-- but Resistance faithful? No way!
Notice the pattern?
I shouldn't take too much credit for this statement. Fr Hewko mentioned the part I've bolded at mass this weekend, I just connected the dots.
I think the topics are all related...
:sad:
Fellayites are known to say that disagreement with Bishop Fellay puts one outside of the Church.
For example, the owner of Ignis Ardens said this of Bishop Williamson.
That is a cult mentality. Bishop Fellay is not the lawful superior of any Catholic.
It's amazing to me that so-called "Trads" can accuse a Traditional Catholic Bishop of "heresy" for merely repeating what Archbishop Lefebvre said, but they can't admit that the modernists in Rome are heretics. Such people are liberals, pure liberals.
Quote from: MithrandylanHis nephew asked that he not come, as they had look-outs for him, and Fr Hewko respected his nephew's request.
How sad for the nephew to say something like that. I guess it shows which side of the fence he is on.
Marsha
Quote from: MithrandylanHis nephew asked that he not come, as they had look-outs for him, and Fr Hewko respected his nephew's request.
How sad for the nephew to say something like that. I guess it shows which side of the fence he is on.
Marsha
I guess the young priest has a lot to prove. Having an uncle like Fr Hewko might place him under suspicion of thought crime, so he has to make sure he is seen to be nothing like his errant uncle.
MHFM is traditional?
That's funny. The Dimond brothers are deluded self righteous morons.
MHFM is traditional?
That's funny. The Dimond brothers are deluded self righteous morons.
Quote from: NapoliMHFM is traditional?
That's funny. The Dimond brothers are deluded self righteous morons.
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You might have posted that in the wrong thread!
Quote from: MarlelarQuote from: MithrandylanHis nephew asked that he not come, as they had look-outs for him, and Fr Hewko respected his nephew's request.
How sad for the nephew to say something like that. I guess it shows which side of the fence he is on.
Marsha
No, we can't say at this point that it shows which side of the fence he is on.
Perhaps it was in some way relayed to the nephew that his ordination would be in jeopardy if Fr. Hewko came. Why take that chance after all the years of formation? Once he had been ordained, then he could show his colors.
After all, we know from last year that Menzingen would not be above such a tactic. Obviously, from the squad car at the entrance to the grounds, they were prepared for a showdown, if it came to that. I think, given the circuŠ¼stances, that quite possibly Fr. Hewko and his nephew decided jointly not to make such a confrontation the focal point of this year's ordination, for the sake of all concerned.