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Fr. Hewko's statement
« on: January 13, 2019, 09:10:42 PM »
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  • Dear Faithful, we must pray! We all suffer in this diabolical disorientation that Our Lady of Fatima warned about affecting the entire Church. Regarding Bp. Ambrose Moran, I notified Fr. Pfeiffer that if OLMC has not disassociated publicly from him within a week, I will be obliged to leave. For many reasons this is a dead end. Please offer your Rosaries to Our Blessed Mother for Her intercession!   [Received from Fr. David Hewko, January 13, 2019]

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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #1 on: January 14, 2019, 12:01:52 AM »
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  • And then where would he go ? :popcorn:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #2 on: January 14, 2019, 06:24:29 AM »
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  • And then where would he go ? :popcorn:
    Not sure there are very many options.  Between all the things he said and guilt by association, he will have a tough go of it IF he leaves.  If Fr. Pfeiffer concedes to his demand it's just business as usual then.

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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #3 on: January 14, 2019, 08:23:44 AM »
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  • Anyone who takes this long to figure out the obvious, doesn't have much credibility. All this before we even discuss his support of the Mexican. Fr. Hewko developed a devoted fan base in the SSPX and he let it affect his judgement and his personality. His actions have lead me to question whether or not he ever had a true vocation to begin with. As it stands, the only realistic projection for him is to get worse and worse and to be even more dependent on a cult-like support network he has grown accustomed to for so long under Fr. Pfeiffer.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #4 on: January 14, 2019, 08:39:19 AM »
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  • Dear Faithful, we must pray! We all suffer in this diabolical disorientation that Our Lady of Fatima warned about affecting the entire Church. Regarding Bp. Ambrose Moran, I notified Fr. Pfeiffer that if OLMC has not disassociated publicly from him within a week, I will be obliged to leave. For many reasons this is a dead end. Please offer your Rosaries to Our Blessed Mother for Her intercession!   [Received from Fr. David Hewko, January 13, 2019]

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    If he leaves, there will be MANY chapels around the USA that will JUMP at the opportunity to have him as their priest.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #5 on: January 14, 2019, 01:00:22 PM »
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  • Just remember cult faithful, it was this same Fr. Hewko who allowed said fake priest/bishop to say an invalid Mass and administer invalid sacraments... for years running! You do realize your chances of at least receiving a valid NO sacrament is much higher than receiving it from Moran, which currently stands at 0%.
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #6 on: January 14, 2019, 01:57:02 PM »
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  • Fr. Hewko developed a devoted fan base in the SSPX and he let it affect his judgement and his personality. His actions have lead me to question whether or not he ever had a true vocation to begin with. As it stands, the only realistic projection for him is to get worse and worse and to be even more dependent on a cult-like support network he has grown accustomed to for so long under Fr. Pfeiffer.
    I don't think that's the case. What he's mostly proven is that he's a follower, not a leader. He might never rebuild the reputation he had leaving the SSPX, but I think he stands to still be a good priest if he removes himself from the source of the scandal.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    « Reply #7 on: January 14, 2019, 02:07:34 PM »
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  • I don't think that's the case. What he's mostly proven is that he's a follower, not a leader. He might never rebuild the reputation he had leaving the SSPX, but I think he stands to still be a good priest if he removes himself from the source of the scandal.
     
    His life as a priest is effectively ruined for allowing that to go on the way it did and for the length of time it did. He may play second fiddle to Pfeiffer, but he was still a very popular priest personality before and after he left the SSPX. You take a risk when you start to believe your own hype, and it did not pay off for him. Leading a life of quiet penance away from the spotlight is probably the least likely scenario for him moving forward, but the only one I can think of to match his gross negligence. Good for him if he finds it, but let's be honest and say that ain't happening!
    Fortuna finem habet.


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    « Reply #8 on: January 14, 2019, 02:25:51 PM »
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  • Yes, to the cult faithful, he has now truly proven his leadership skills. Way to go Fr. Hewko! Now you get to tell all those non-compromisers how you allowed an obviously fake priest/bishop to say Masses at your fake seminary, with his fake blessed oil supply for years! You can also tell them how noble it was to keep a blaspheming apostate serial groper in charge of the fake seminary. Must we let such a shining talent go to waste? Put that man's light on a lamppost! Whatever you do, don't let the gravity of the situation flatten your conscience!
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #9 on: January 14, 2019, 03:19:16 PM »
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  • His life as a priest is effectively ruined for allowing that to go on the way it did and for the length of time it did. He may play second fiddle to Pfeiffer, but he was still a very popular priest personality before and after he left the SSPX. You take a risk when you start to believe your own hype, and it did not pay off for him. Leading a life of quiet penance away from the spotlight is probably the least likely scenario for him moving forward, but the only one I can think of to match his gross negligence. Good for him if he finds it, but let's be honest and say that ain't happening!
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    What Fr. Hewko did in supporting the Pfeiffer cult-- especially over time, scandal after scandal-- seems completely at odds with the very holy, devout, serious, and prudent priest I met.  But that just goes to show that my judgment was off.  He disappointed, big time.  Difficult to make sense of, but this seems like a case of "it is what it is." 
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    « Reply #10 on: January 14, 2019, 03:39:04 PM »
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  • And then where would he go ? :popcorn:
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    Fr. David Hewko's extended family attend Mass at St. Patrick's Mission in Northridge, CA on Sundays and holy days of obligation.
    I have no doubt that Msgr Perez would be most happy to assist him in finding his way ahead. 
    There are thousands of people all over the world crying out loud for a priest.
    Msgr has been helpful for such matters many times in the past and I'm sure he will continue to do so in the future.
    He's effectively already doing the work of a bishop.
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    Don't miss Rad Trad Thomist's blog post, links to which which Msgr passed around this week:
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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #11 on: January 14, 2019, 03:44:48 PM »
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  • His life as a priest is effectively ruined for allowing that to go on the way it did and for the length of time it did. He may play second fiddle to Pfeiffer, but he was still a very popular priest personality before and after he left the SSPX. You take a risk when you start to believe your own hype, and it did not pay off for him. Leading a life of quiet penance away from the spotlight is probably the least likely scenario for him moving forward, but the only one I can think of to match his gross negligence. Good for him if he finds it, but let's be honest and say that ain't happening!
    Anyone who takes this long to figure out the obvious, doesn't have much credibility. All this before we even discuss his support of the Mexican. Fr. Hewko developed a devoted fan base in the SSPX and he let it affect his judgement and his personality. His actions have lead me to question whether or not he ever had a true vocation to begin with. As it stands, the only realistic projection for him is to get worse and worse and to be even more dependent on a cult-like support network he has grown accustomed to for so long under Fr. Pfeiffer.
    Just remember, cult faithful, it was this same Fr. Hewko who allowed said fake priest/bishop to say an invalid Mass and administer invalid sacraments... for years running! You do realize your chances of at least receiving a valid NO sacrament is much higher than receiving it from Moran, which currently stands at 0%.
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    Perhaps someday you will look back on what you've written here, Croixalist, and regret your malicious and vicious malediction against a priest of God.
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    If you don't repent of your sin of detraction and do what you can to make reparation, you're not going to be happy with the enduring consequences.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #12 on: January 14, 2019, 03:55:38 PM »
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    Fr. David Hewko's extended family attend Mass at St. Patrick's Mission in Northridge, CA on Sundays and holy days of obligation.
    I have no doubt that Msgr Perez would be most happy to assist him in finding his way ahead.
    Isn't Fr. Perez a Novus Ordo rites "ordained priest"?
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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #13 on: January 14, 2019, 04:23:24 PM »
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    Perhaps someday you will look back on what you've written here, Croixalist, and regret your malicious and vicious malediction against a priest of God.
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    If you don't repent of your sin of detraction and do what you can to make reparation, you're not going to be happy with the enduring consequences.
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    Word to the wise.

    Yes, a priest of God who grievously neglected his duty at protecting his sheep. For all the hypocrisy of the NO priests, the SSPX, the FSSP, which are many times warranted, how can any of you sit there and pretend this is an adequate response? Has he taken any responsibility for his actions or in this specific case, inactions? We've heard of his "doubts" of Moran through the grapevine almost since he arrived. You better believe that when he is called upon to answer for the FACT that men, women and children under his charge where given a flat piece of bread passed off as a consecrated Host, he will wish that could have listened to his harsher critics when he could have. If his vocation was real and true, that means he did have the graces necessary yet still ignored them. It's an even worse betrayal! What good is he as a voice of reason against the NO and the SSPX after this? Even the NO with their variously doubtful ordinations is a thousand times safer than what the cat dragged in at Kentucky. 

    All he has now are people who can't stand up to him and call him on his public failings. He took 3 years to do what he should have done before Ambrose was ever allowed to say Mass. His credibility as a priest and a man IS ruined, his soul IS in jeopardy, and if this is not remedied by an equally strong public acknowledgement of the damage he has helped to cause he will likely repeat the same mistakes somewhere else. You want to be tough on everyone else but your own. Get angry, now is the time for it.
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #14 on: January 14, 2019, 04:42:48 PM »
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  • Isn't Fr. Perez a Novus Ordo rites "ordained priest"?
    Doesn't Msgr. Perez support the SSPX and hasn't he used their bishops to confirm his parishioners?
    If so, why would Msgr. Perez accept an ex-SSPX Resistance priest to serve in his parishes?

    Fr. Hewko would have to change his stance on the SSPX.  I do not see that happening.

    Lord have mercy.

     

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