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Title: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: donkath on January 13, 2019, 09:10:42 PM
Dear Faithful, we must pray! We all suffer in this diabolical disorientation that Our Lady of Fatima warned about affecting the entire Church. Regarding Bp. Ambrose Moran, I notified Fr. Pfeiffer that if OLMC has not disassociated publicly from him within a week, I will be obliged to leave. For many reasons this is a dead end. Please offer your Rosaries to Our Blessed Mother for Her intercession!   [Received from Fr. David Hewko, January 13, 2019]
 (http://www.thecatacombs.org/thread/1705/statement-hewko-concerning-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4000)
http://www.thecatacombs.org/thread/1705/statement-hewko-concerning-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4000 (http://www.thecatacombs.org/thread/1705/statement-hewko-concerning-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4000)

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Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Incredulous on January 14, 2019, 12:01:52 AM


And then where would he go ? :popcorn:
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: RoughAshlar on January 14, 2019, 06:24:29 AM

And then where would he go ? :popcorn:
Not sure there are very many options.  Between all the things he said and guilt by association, he will have a tough go of it IF he leaves.  If Fr. Pfeiffer concedes to his demand it's just business as usual then.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 14, 2019, 08:23:44 AM
Anyone who takes this long to figure out the obvious, doesn't have much credibility. All this before we even discuss his support of the Mexican. Fr. Hewko developed a devoted fan base in the SSPX and he let it affect his judgement and his personality. His actions have lead me to question whether or not he ever had a true vocation to begin with. As it stands, the only realistic projection for him is to get worse and worse and to be even more dependent on a cult-like support network he has grown accustomed to for so long under Fr. Pfeiffer.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Last Tradhican on January 14, 2019, 08:39:19 AM
Dear Faithful, we must pray! We all suffer in this diabolical disorientation that Our Lady of Fatima warned about affecting the entire Church. Regarding Bp. Ambrose Moran, I notified Fr. Pfeiffer that if OLMC has not disassociated publicly from him within a week, I will be obliged to leave. For many reasons this is a dead end. Please offer your Rosaries to Our Blessed Mother for Her intercession!   [Received from Fr. David Hewko, January 13, 2019]
 (http://www.thecatacombs.org/thread/1705/statement-hewko-concerning-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4000)
http://www.thecatacombs.org/thread/1705/statement-hewko-concerning-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4000 (http://www.thecatacombs.org/thread/1705/statement-hewko-concerning-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4000)

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If he leaves, there will be MANY chapels around the USA that will JUMP at the opportunity to have him as their priest.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 14, 2019, 01:00:22 PM
Just remember cult faithful, it was this same Fr. Hewko who allowed said fake priest/bishop to say an invalid Mass and administer invalid sacraments... for years running! You do realize your chances of at least receiving a valid NO sacrament is much higher than receiving it from Moran, which currently stands at 0%.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: MaterDominici on January 14, 2019, 01:57:02 PM
Fr. Hewko developed a devoted fan base in the SSPX and he let it affect his judgement and his personality. His actions have lead me to question whether or not he ever had a true vocation to begin with. As it stands, the only realistic projection for him is to get worse and worse and to be even more dependent on a cult-like support network he has grown accustomed to for so long under Fr. Pfeiffer.
I don't think that's the case. What he's mostly proven is that he's a follower, not a leader. He might never rebuild the reputation he had leaving the SSPX, but I think he stands to still be a good priest if he removes himself from the source of the scandal.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 14, 2019, 02:07:34 PM
I don't think that's the case. What he's mostly proven is that he's a follower, not a leader. He might never rebuild the reputation he had leaving the SSPX, but I think he stands to still be a good priest if he removes himself from the source of the scandal.
 
His life as a priest is effectively ruined for allowing that to go on the way it did and for the length of time it did. He may play second fiddle to Pfeiffer, but he was still a very popular priest personality before and after he left the SSPX. You take a risk when you start to believe your own hype, and it did not pay off for him. Leading a life of quiet penance away from the spotlight is probably the least likely scenario for him moving forward, but the only one I can think of to match his gross negligence. Good for him if he finds it, but let's be honest and say that ain't happening!
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 14, 2019, 02:25:51 PM
Yes, to the cult faithful, he has now truly proven his leadership skills. Way to go Fr. Hewko! Now you get to tell all those non-compromisers how you allowed an obviously fake priest/bishop to say Masses at your fake seminary, with his fake blessed oil supply for years! You can also tell them how noble it was to keep a blaspheming apostate serial groper in charge of the fake seminary. Must we let such a shining talent go to waste? Put that man's light on a lamppost! Whatever you do, don't let the gravity of the situation flatten your conscience!
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Mithrandylan on January 14, 2019, 03:19:16 PM

His life as a priest is effectively ruined for allowing that to go on the way it did and for the length of time it did. He may play second fiddle to Pfeiffer, but he was still a very popular priest personality before and after he left the SSPX. You take a risk when you start to believe your own hype, and it did not pay off for him. Leading a life of quiet penance away from the spotlight is probably the least likely scenario for him moving forward, but the only one I can think of to match his gross negligence. Good for him if he finds it, but let's be honest and say that ain't happening!
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I agree.
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What Fr. Hewko did in supporting the Pfeiffer cult-- especially over time, scandal after scandal-- seems completely at odds with the very holy, devout, serious, and prudent priest I met.  But that just goes to show that my judgment was off.  He disappointed, big time.  Difficult to make sense of, but this seems like a case of "it is what it is." 
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Neil Obstat on January 14, 2019, 03:39:04 PM

And then where would he go ? :popcorn:
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Fr. David Hewko's extended family attend Mass at St. Patrick's Mission in Northridge, CA on Sundays and holy days of obligation.
I have no doubt that Msgr Perez would be most happy to assist him in finding his way ahead. 
There are thousands of people all over the world crying out loud for a priest.
Msgr has been helpful for such matters many times in the past and I'm sure he will continue to do so in the future.
He's effectively already doing the work of a bishop.
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Don't miss Rad Trad Thomist's blog post, links to which which Msgr passed around this week:
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Fr. Poisson Call Your Office! (http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2019/01/fr-poisson-call-your-office-fr-david.html)
Fr. David Hewko Gets Ready to Jump Ship in Pfeifferville! (http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2019/01/fr-poisson-call-your-office-fr-david.html)
Dubious Ambrose Moran Cited as Cause of Upcoming Split (http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2019/01/fr-poisson-call-your-office-fr-david.html)
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Neil Obstat on January 14, 2019, 03:44:48 PM
His life as a priest is effectively ruined for allowing that to go on the way it did and for the length of time it did. He may play second fiddle to Pfeiffer, but he was still a very popular priest personality before and after he left the SSPX. You take a risk when you start to believe your own hype, and it did not pay off for him. Leading a life of quiet penance away from the spotlight is probably the least likely scenario for him moving forward, but the only one I can think of to match his gross negligence. Good for him if he finds it, but let's be honest and say that ain't happening!
Anyone who takes this long to figure out the obvious, doesn't have much credibility. All this before we even discuss his support of the Mexican. Fr. Hewko developed a devoted fan base in the SSPX and he let it affect his judgement and his personality. His actions have lead me to question whether or not he ever had a true vocation to begin with. As it stands, the only realistic projection for him is to get worse and worse and to be even more dependent on a cult-like support network he has grown accustomed to for so long under Fr. Pfeiffer.
Just remember, cult faithful, it was this same Fr. Hewko who allowed said fake priest/bishop to say an invalid Mass and administer invalid sacraments... for years running! You do realize your chances of at least receiving a valid NO sacrament is much higher than receiving it from Moran, which currently stands at 0%.
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Perhaps someday you will look back on what you've written here, Croixalist, and regret your malicious and vicious malediction against a priest of God.
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If you don't repent of your sin of detraction and do what you can to make reparation, you're not going to be happy with the enduring consequences.
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Word to the wise.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Last Tradhican on January 14, 2019, 03:55:38 PM
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Fr. David Hewko's extended family attend Mass at St. Patrick's Mission in Northridge, CA on Sundays and holy days of obligation.
I have no doubt that Msgr Perez would be most happy to assist him in finding his way ahead.
Isn't Fr. Perez a Novus Ordo rites "ordained priest"?
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 14, 2019, 04:23:24 PM
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Perhaps someday you will look back on what you've written here, Croixalist, and regret your malicious and vicious malediction against a priest of God.
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If you don't repent of your sin of detraction and do what you can to make reparation, you're not going to be happy with the enduring consequences.
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Word to the wise.

Yes, a priest of God who grievously neglected his duty at protecting his sheep. For all the hypocrisy of the NO priests, the SSPX, the FSSP, which are many times warranted, how can any of you sit there and pretend this is an adequate response? Has he taken any responsibility for his actions or in this specific case, inactions? We've heard of his "doubts" of Moran through the grapevine almost since he arrived. You better believe that when he is called upon to answer for the FACT that men, women and children under his charge where given a flat piece of bread passed off as a consecrated Host, he will wish that could have listened to his harsher critics when he could have. If his vocation was real and true, that means he did have the graces necessary yet still ignored them. It's an even worse betrayal! What good is he as a voice of reason against the NO and the SSPX after this? Even the NO with their variously doubtful ordinations is a thousand times safer than what the cat dragged in at Kentucky. 

All he has now are people who can't stand up to him and call him on his public failings. He took 3 years to do what he should have done before Ambrose was ever allowed to say Mass. His credibility as a priest and a man IS ruined, his soul IS in jeopardy, and if this is not remedied by an equally strong public acknowledgement of the damage he has helped to cause he will likely repeat the same mistakes somewhere else. You want to be tough on everyone else but your own. Get angry, now is the time for it.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Maria Regina on January 14, 2019, 04:42:48 PM
Isn't Fr. Perez a Novus Ordo rites "ordained priest"?
Doesn't Msgr. Perez support the SSPX and hasn't he used their bishops to confirm his parishioners?
If so, why would Msgr. Perez accept an ex-SSPX Resistance priest to serve in his parishes?

Fr. Hewko would have to change his stance on the SSPX.  I do not see that happening.

Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Banezian on January 14, 2019, 05:12:13 PM

And then where would he go ? :popcorn:
He could abandon his pride and return to the Society which he left for no good reason
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: cosmas on January 14, 2019, 05:31:48 PM
Better off joining Bishop Zendejas than joining back with the Society, Banezian . The Society is on a full speed ahead return to Conciliar Rome Agenda ! They are getting ready to Consecrate two new Bishops. Conciliar Rome has given their approval. Around Conciliar Rome's " Divine Mercy Sunday " is when this is supposed to be done. I'd like to know if anyone heard an announcement of when an agreement was made between the Society and Rome . They ,the Society acts like its old home week with Conciliar Rome, N.O. priests witnessing weddings of society laity. Confessions are now legitimate, We are even permitted two Bishops. What further evidence needed to see the Society has been accepted back into Counciliar Rome's bosom, no strings attached ??
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Banezian on January 14, 2019, 05:35:56 PM
Better off joining Bishop Zendejas than joining back with the Society, Banezian . The Society is on a full speed ahead return to Conciliar Rome Agenda ! They are getting ready to Consecrate two new Bishops. Conciliar Rome has given their approval. Around Conciliar Rome's " Divine Mercy Sunday " is when this is supposed to be done. I'd like to know if anyone heard an announcement of when an agreement was made between the Society and Rome . They ,the Society acts like its old home week with Conciliar Rome, N.O. priests witnessing weddings of society laity. Confessions are now legitimate, We are even permitted two Bishops. What further evidence needed to see the Society has been accepted back into Counciliar Rome's bosom, no strings attached ??
The 2 bishops claim is all  gossip with zero evidence. If Rome accepts the Society and allows it to govern itself, no harm done.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: josefamenendez on January 14, 2019, 05:50:36 PM
Please pray that Fr Poisson will follow Fr Hewko's lead and get the heck out of there. Fr Poisson is also a fine priest being led astray by Fr Pfeiffer and "Bishop" Moran.
Our Lady of Sorrows please intercede for your beloved sons and reveal Heaven's path for these good Priests.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Seraphina on January 14, 2019, 06:03:35 PM
Maybe he could take a year off for prayer, penance, and discernment under the charge of Bp. Zendejas, and possibly work with him?  For all his talk of martyrdom, he has proven himself weak in action.  Without revealing any specific faults, Fr. Hewko has exercised, in my opinion, very poor judgement a number of times even in matters unrelated to faith.  Submitting to Fr. Pfeiffer as if to his superior, was most unwise.  Those who submit to Fr. Pfeiffer submit by default to Mr. Hernandez, whether they realize it or not.  OLMC is a grand illustration of the blind leading the blind.  Everyone who attaches himself to the place ends up in the ditch.  I sincerely hope and pray Fr. Hewko, like the prodigal son, comes to himself, climbs out of the mud, and returns to His Father and his Blessed Mother.  

As for those pronouncing his vocation false, or asserting God no longer has a use for Fr. Hewko, I do hope they are prepared to accept the same terms of judgment from Our Lord.  Beware what you say about a priest.  Maybe if Fr. Hewko gets himself free, possibly, just maybe, Fr. Pfeiffer will swallow his pride and follow.  Wouldn't this be preferable to two priests falling victim to an amateur exorcist?  
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 14, 2019, 06:50:07 PM
Maybe he could take a year off for prayer, penance, and discernment under the charge of Bp. Zendejas, and possibly work with him?  For all his talk of martyrdom, he has proven himself weak in action.  Without revealing any specific faults, Fr. Hewko has exercised, in my opinion, very poor judgement a number of times even in matters unrelated to faith.  Submitting to Fr. Pfeiffer as if to his superior, was most unwise.  Those who submit to Fr. Pfeiffer submit by default to Mr. Hernandez, whether they realize it or not.  OLMC is a grand illustration of the blind leading the blind.  Everyone who attaches himself to the place ends up in the ditch.  I sincerely hope and pray Fr. Hewko, like the prodigal son, comes to himself, climbs out of the mud, and returns to His Father and his Blessed Mother.  

As for those pronouncing his vocation false, or asserting God no longer has a use for Fr. Hewko, I do hope they are prepared to accept the same terms of judgment from Our Lord.  Beware what you say about a priest.  Maybe if Fr. Hewko gets himself free, possibly, just maybe, Fr. Pfeiffer will swallow his pride and follow.  Wouldn't this be preferable to two priests falling victim to an amateur exorcist?  

I openly wondered if he did, and that's based on his disastrous turn at Kentucky. Could he possibly have thrown it all down the drain the way he did if God truly wanted him to be a priest? It's a charitable question at this point, but it's not a pronouncement. Let me ask you why you seem so convinced? When you've answered that, you might explain how 3 years (and more with Pablo) of excusing this group of men who now have a reputation for taking advantage of people financially, sɛҳuąƖly, and spiritually with a man who can hardly be called a Catholic and a man who isn't even a priest for Heaven's sakes, did anyone any good? All under the "protective" watch of Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko. If it cuts deep, it should because we should all have been hopping mad when it first went down. You don't have to be an NO or a pedophile in order to be a bad priest.

Stop. Excusing. Bad. Priests.

But just how bad are they really?

Who is Pablo that they couldn't dismiss him? Who is Moran that they couldn't turn him away? And what obliges Fr. Hewko now that didn't oblige him years ago? How is it that traditionalists are committing the same exact mistakes that helped usher in the NO fifty-odd years ago? How is it an exaggeration to suggest that we are solidly in millstone territory? I am fully prepared to go to my God knowing that I was one of those people who did not remain silent and did everything in my rhetorical power the shake people out of this deadly complacency. I hope you can say the same thing too! In some cases the sheer arrogance people have displayed here with souls on the line is remarkable. Where's the shame, where's the utter embarrassment for supporting these priests' horrendous conduct?
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Incredulous on January 14, 2019, 06:54:29 PM
Funny you said that, cause Fr. Hewko did celebrate Mass at our Lady Help of Christians recently.  

Msgr. Perez allowed him in under semi-emergency conditions, since he had no other place to say Mass ( so he said)

Beware of Trojan Horses Msgr. Perez, because you don't understand the true Pablo/Pfeiffer agenda?
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Fr. David Hewko's extended family attend Mass at St. Patrick's Mission in Northridge, CA on Sundays and holy days of obligation.
I have no doubt that Msgr Perez would be most happy to assist him in finding his way ahead.
There are thousands of people all over the world crying out loud for a priest.
Msgr has been helpful for such matters many times in the past and I'm sure he will continue to do so in the future.
He's effectively already doing the work of a bishop.
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Don't miss Rad Trad Thomist's blog post, links to which which Msgr passed around this week:
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Fr. Poisson Call Your Office! (http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2019/01/fr-poisson-call-your-office-fr-david.html)
Fr. David Hewko Gets Ready to Jump Ship in Pfeifferville! (http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2019/01/fr-poisson-call-your-office-fr-david.html)
Dubious Ambrose Moran Cited as Cause of Upcoming Split (http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2019/01/fr-poisson-call-your-office-fr-david.html)
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 14, 2019, 07:16:26 PM
 :applause: :applause: :applause:

Yeah, let's reassign him. Let's find a nice desperate group of people, they wouldn't dare complain! The problem will go away now. Nothing to see. Let's pretend it never happened. Let's lie and say he proved himself. But don't you ever and I mean ever insist that he  explain himself or answer for what he did. 

Who said the Novus Ordo didn't teach us anything?  
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Ekim on January 14, 2019, 07:30:08 PM
Croixalist, do you know Fr. Hewko?  Have you met him or attended his Masses?

I understand your perspective from an objective point of view, but those who know him also filter their objective point of view through their subjective reasoning and have arrived at a different conclusion than you.  They still see much hope and redemption for Fr. Hewko.  

This I believe, has nothing to do with a “Cult following” but rather with a fuller knowledge of who this priest is due to direct interaction with him.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: obediens on January 14, 2019, 07:32:13 PM
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Fr. David Hewko's extended family attend Mass at St. Patrick's Mission in Northridge, CA on Sundays and holy days of obligation.
I have no doubt that Msgr Perez would be most happy to assist him in finding his way ahead.
There are thousands of people all over the world crying out loud for a priest.
Msgr has been helpful for such matters many times in the past and I'm sure he will continue to do so in the future.
He's effectively already doing the work of a bishop.
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Don't miss Rad Trad Thomist's blog post, links to which which Msgr passed around this week:
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Fr. Poisson Call Your Office! (http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2019/01/fr-poisson-call-your-office-fr-david.html)
Fr. David Hewko Gets Ready to Jump Ship in Pfeifferville! (http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2019/01/fr-poisson-call-your-office-fr-david.html)
Dubious Ambrose Moran Cited as Cause of Upcoming Split (http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2019/01/fr-poisson-call-your-office-fr-david.html)
Perez, the same Perez who took in Colletti... https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/M001-Colletti.htm

A "Fr. Paul Alvarez" is currently working with Perez at his chapel in California, saying Mass there and preaching. 

This may very well be the same "Fr. Paul Alvarez," who in 2016 was ordained (?) by Bishop (?) Joseph Macek (himself ordained/consecrated in Costa/Thuc lines through the Patrick Taylor/SVM ordination mill).

http://www.ourladyhelpofchristians.us/sermon-for-the-15th-sunday-after-pentecost-september-2-2018-by-father-paul-alvarez
http://www.chapeloftheholyfamily.org/uploads/7/6/7/1/7671717/hf-bulletin_11.6.16.pdf

Incidentally, Macek is/was himself associated with Virgil Tetherow, another kettle of fish. 
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 14, 2019, 08:18:08 PM
Croixalist, do you know Fr. Hewko?  Have you met him or attended his Masses?

I understand your perspective from an objective point of view, but those who know him also filter their objective point of view through their subjective reasoning and have arrived at a different conclusion than you.  They still see much hope and redemption for Fr. Hewko.  

This I believe, has nothing to do with a “Cult following” but rather with a fuller knowledge of who this priest is.

I have met him and attended his Mass while he was still with the SSPX. I sat in on one of his presentations on the Cristeros. I had no big problems with him at the time but hindsight is 20/20. When I say he was popular I mean he was more of a celebrity with devoted fans that in some cases turned out later to form rather unhealthy attachments to those in authority. The cult aspect is always present in larval form to some degree I guess. I'd suspect most traditionalist priests have to deal with that from time to time but he was a big deal in these parts back then. I didn't get to know him much at all but he certainly carried himself with a certain self assurance that surely I thought wouldn't have allowed for what was to come. I can only speculate as to why. It's still hard for me to imagine how someone like Fr. Pfeiffer could possibly have that much of a hold on him. Now it's hard for me to see the hold Fr. Hewko has on some people here. But all that doesn't really matter. What has been going on in Kentucky is evil, and Hewko was in the number 2 position, pure and simple.

Certainly Fr. Pfeiffer has the most to answer for, but Fr. Hewko is right up there. I was waiting for this to happen back when Ambrose seemingly disappeared from the scene the first time, but even then it was incredibly negligent and a sacrilege to have Moran around for just one Mass. But again, Ambrose isn't the only problem and he definitely wasn't the first. Oh, and I somehow forgot the Tetherow association! I'm having a difficult time when people are so game to snatch Fr. Hewko back up after a prolonged period of public scandal like this. What fuller knowledge allows him to just dust himself off and be thrown back into yet another position of authority when he has so thoroughly debunked his own abilities in that regard?

To sit on this powder keg situation for the better part of a decade now and assume there are no real consequences for it other than, "I'm just glad you're back on our side now!" falls flat to me. If anyone thinks that's actually good enough, well that's the Crisis for you... but it gets me really angry.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: 1st Mansion Tenant on January 14, 2019, 09:26:13 PM
Maybe Fr Chazal could use another good priest in the Philippines, or Fr McDonald in New Zealand? (After the bishops decide he is suitably deprogrammed, that is.)
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: cosmas on January 14, 2019, 10:52:20 PM
Remember, these priests that have been thrown out and left on their own have got to be going through personal crisis. Its like having your parents disown you. Physical security gone, Where will I live?, Where will I get food ? Possibly Fr. Hewko attached himself to long to Fr. Pfiffer's group. He possibly felt obligated to stay or had a time of it figuring out how to make a clean exit.
Try to walk in his shoes. He's a good priest, i've heard him give sermons many times. He's very devout. A resistance priest would do well to take him in . All we can really do is pray for Fr. Pfiffer and his group and hope they come to their senses.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Pax Vobis on January 14, 2019, 10:53:39 PM
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To sit on this powder keg situation for the better part of a decade now and assume there are no real consequences for it other than, "I'm just glad you're back on our side now!" falls flat to me. If anyone thinks that's actually good enough, well that's the Crisis for you... but it gets me really angry.
I agree.  If the Church were operating normally, priests involved in such scandals (no matter their involvement) wouldn’t be allowed to publicly serve the laity.  It would cause too much confusion and distractions with rumors and heresay, etc.  

Anyone who leaves Pfeifferville and is looking for redemption needs a long “time out” period under the supervision of a priest/bishop with integrity.  This is necessary, at the very least, from a PR standpoint.  At worst, someone needs to get to the bottom of what really happened at OLMC, to prevent the chaos from spreading.  
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 14, 2019, 10:57:50 PM
I agree.  If the Church were operating normally, priests involved in such scandals (no matter their involvement) wouldn’t be allowed to publicly serve the laity.  It would cause too much confusion and distractions with rumors and heresay, etc.  

Anyone who leaves Pfeifferville and is looking for redemption needs a long “time out” period under the supervision of a priest/bishop with integrity.  This is necessary, at the very least, from a PR standpoint.  At worst, someone needs to get to the bottom of what really happened at OLMC, to prevent the chaos from spreading.  

That sums it up perfectly. Thank you!
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 14, 2019, 11:58:48 PM
Remember, these priests that have been thrown out and left on their own have got to be going through personal crisis. Its like having your parents disown you. Physical security gone, Where will I live?, Where will I get food ? Possibly Fr. Hewko attached himself to long to Fr. Pfiffer's group. He possibly felt obligated to stay or had a time of it figuring out how to make a clean exit.
Try to walk in his shoes. He's a good priest, i've heard him give sermons many times. He's very devout. A resistance priest would do well to take him in . All we can really do is pray for Fr. Pfiffer and his group and hope they come to their senses.

So there's this objectively evil situation that he is in large part responsible for and he wants to make a stand but he doesn't know where his next meal will come from. Big points for self-preservation, but it doesn't make him a good priest. Disowned by the SSPX? Orphaned? It doesn't mean he will take the right path. Good sermons, charismatic personality, what happened? Here's a few things: the seminary coordinator brings in rated R garbage for the seminarians. The seminary coordinator imposes himself on a certain woman who is intent on founding a convent and with helpful deflections from the likes of Fr. Hewko, her entire life savings are swallowed up in a situation she no longer wanted to be a part of. Fr. Pfeiffer brings in an imposter priest/bishop and even after the most thorough examinations regarding his fake docuмentation are published, he waits 3 years before making the only reasonable decision.

Where was his holiness when other people really needed it? Where was it when he wasn't saying Mass? No one knows. But when a priest is so reckless as to submit those under his care to his own faulty sense of comfort in the face of obvious corruption, deception and satanic interference, why should anyone listen to what he has to say? And as soon as Fr. Pfeiffer figures out he's not the Bishop in White from the published Third Secret or whatever strange destiny he's got planned for himself, I pray he receives in full measure the justice due him while he still lives before it's too late for his soul. Both of these men have used up all the good will they brought with them as traditional priests. It's too late for Fr. Hewko to play the good cop against Fr. Pfeiffer; he's been complicit for far too long.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: cosmas on January 15, 2019, 12:47:24 AM
I wasn't privy to all the details you speak of. We still have to give him a chance to redeem himself. We can't throw him by the wayside. He's still a good priest. He needs good influences around him with the likes of Bishop Zendehaus and Bishop Williamson to help in his reintroduction to a  saner religious realm .
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 15, 2019, 06:20:06 AM
I wasn't privy to all the details you speak of. We still have to give him a chance to redeem himself. We can't throw him by the wayside. He's still a good priest. He needs good influences around him with the likes of Bishop Zendehaus and Bishop Williamson to help in his reintroduction to a  saner religious realm .

Fr Voigt would be an example of a good priest in a bad situation who promptly got himself out of it. Fr Hewko not only stayed, he gave legitimacy to the goings on there, he made sure there was always a unified front with Fr. Pfeiffer and Pablo. Sure, you can get the sacraments from him, but don't be fooled by flimsy outward signs of piety.  If he was in the habit of applying the principles he preaches about, he wouldn't be in the trouble he's in right now. In fact, I don't believe the week is up... he's still there, and he might actually stay!
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: cosmas on January 15, 2019, 09:35:31 AM
Good Points,I'll continue to pray for his total conversion. Thanks for the info !
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 15, 2019, 09:45:50 AM
You got it.  
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: JmJ2cents on January 15, 2019, 06:52:49 PM
Fr. Hewko needs prayers, it is as simple as that and to speculate what will happen is foolish.  He is a wonderful and devout priest who has an edifying devotion to Our Lady.  He has to be given a chance away from that place to see strait again.  It would be wonderful to see him go to a monastery for a while to pray and think.  God bless him for this courageous move. 
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Felicitas on January 15, 2019, 07:11:11 PM
I've been looking for that video sermon from Fr Hewko that was posted a few(?) months back. In it he was questioning the Moran deal.. it was just a short section.. but I can't find it. Anyone else remember that?

I wonder how long he's been in turmoil? God bless him! He's been under this illusion for so long now. To break free, albeit tainted, is a miracle. Surely a sabbatical, under one of the good bishops would help.. I pray that he will take this step. 
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: St Paul on January 16, 2019, 08:04:45 AM
I see an excessive joy in the Faithful due to Fr. Hewko's statement which is not justified.

We all had or will have our breaking point with OLMC. St. Joseph will see to that. Moran is clearly Fr. Hewko's breaking point, but how will Fr. Hewko clear his culpability in the things he supported (whether overtly or tacitly)?

Where is Mr. Greg Taylor and the Recusant in all this? Silence for months. What will be his breaking point?

There are many reasons to disassociate oneself from OLMC:


Let us be grateful St. Joseph led Fr. Hewko away from a place which is not of God and let us keep up our prayers that he lead more to Truth, but let us keep it in perspective.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: JmJ2cents on January 16, 2019, 08:42:45 AM
Thank you so much for stating the obvious.  I think anyone who is up on OLMC knows everything that is wrong with that place.  Like I said to speculate on the future is foolish.  If and when he gets away from that place and has time to pray then maybe he will see clearly on all the issues plaguing Kentucky.  There is even more we could put on his laundry list but what is the point? Give this priest a chance.  
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Incredulous on January 16, 2019, 09:24:07 AM
Isn't Fr. Perez a Novus Ordo rites "ordained priest"?

Close... he was in multiple seminaries and was finally ordained by the "indulted"
Institute of Christ the King.
They didn't assign him anywhere, so he went his own way.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Matthew on January 16, 2019, 10:34:04 AM
So there's this objectively evil situation that he is in large part responsible for and he wants to make a stand but he doesn't know where his next meal will come from. Big points for self-preservation, but it doesn't make him a good priest. Disowned by the SSPX? Orphaned? It doesn't mean he will take the right path. Good sermons, charismatic personality, what happened? Here's a few things: the seminary coordinator brings in rated R garbage for the seminarians. The seminary coordinator imposes himself on a certain woman who is intent on founding a convent and with helpful deflections from the likes of Fr. Hewko, her entire life savings are swallowed up in a situation she no longer wanted to be a part of. Fr. Pfeiffer brings in an imposter priest/bishop and even after the most thorough examinations regarding his fake docuмentation are published, he waits 3 years before making the only reasonable decision.

Where was his holiness when other people really needed it? Where was it when he wasn't saying Mass? No one knows. But when a priest is so reckless as to submit those under his care to his own faulty sense of comfort in the face of obvious corruption, deception and satanic interference, why should anyone listen to what he has to say? And as soon as Fr. Pfeiffer figures out he's not the Bishop in White from the published Third Secret or whatever strange destiny he's got planned for himself, I pray he receives in full measure the justice due him while he still lives before it's too late for his soul. Both of these men have used up all the good will they brought with them as traditional priests. It's too late for Fr. Hewko to play the good cop against Fr. Pfeiffer; he's been complicit for far too long.

Good points. Fr. Hewko has been complicit in many evils taking place at Fr. Pfeiffer's Boston, KY HQ.

I've mentioned before, that the faithful (especially women) are often fooled by outward expressions and mannerisms of piety by priests. Men look deeper. God looks deeper still.

For example, Fr. Timothy Svea (Institute of Christ the King) back in the 1990s had dozens of Trads (again, mostly women) gushing about his piety. He was outwardly very pious. More soft-spoken, didn't joke during his sermons like Fr. Brian Bovee (the other priest posted to the Institute's Rockford, IL location), he was very reverent during the celebration of Mass, had excellent custody of the eyes, talked a good talk about the Faith, etc.

But fast forward several years, and Fr. Svea fell into a scandal similar to that of many Novus Ordo priests. Yes, THAT scandal. Yes, I'm serious. Go ahead and Google it; it's all public information and public record.

http://www.bishopaccountability.org/assign/Svea_Timothy_E.htm

With apologies to Fr. Hewko, they actually remind me a lot of each other. They both have that religious, serious, quiet bearing (like they spent a few years at a monastery), both have a mostly bald head with grey hair, and both are a similar height and build. I'm not saying Fr. Hewko fell (or will fall) for the same particular thing as Fr. Svea, but Fr. Hewko has his own issues like supporting Fr. Pfeiffer in his grave sins.

Moral of the story: Apparent piety does NOT equal true holiness.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Last Tradhican on January 16, 2019, 10:50:23 AM
Close... he was in multiple seminaries and was finally ordained by the "indulted"
Institute of Christ the King.
They didn't assign him anywhere, so he went his own way.
I know for a fact that not one of the ordinations of the Fraternity of St. Peter were done by an old ceremony consecrated bishop, which is rather odd and stands out as a red flag. I have to assume that it is the same with The Institute of Christ the King. So, Fr. Perez is in a safer position than the Novus Ordo ordained because he was ordained with the old rite of ordination, but he still has a strike against him because the bishop that ordained him may not be a bishop. Personally, I would go to priests where I have no doubts about their consecration. 
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Pax Vobis on January 16, 2019, 12:48:13 PM
Quote
Close... Fr Perez was in multiple seminaries and was finally ordained by the "indulted"
Institute of Christ the King.
They didn't assign him anywhere, so he went his own way.
Who ordaines a priest, doesn't assign him anywhere and let's him do whatever he wants?  This is a HUGE red flag.  Sounds like he may be a plant; a "rogue trad" priest who just happened to be available to help out Traditionalism. 
If something seems "too good to be true", then it is.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 16, 2019, 02:32:39 PM
Moral of the story: Apparent piety does NOT equal true holiness.

At least the outward variety! 


Thank you so much for stating the obvious.  

Well, apparently the obvious needs to be restated over an over again before it takes effect on some folks.

Here's another golden nugget of obvious:

He hasn't left yet!

8)
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: josefamenendez on January 16, 2019, 02:34:50 PM
Msgr Perez and Cannon Hesse were good friends- kind of in the same boat. Both had Conciliar ordinations- don't know about conditional ordinations for either of them.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Mr G on January 17, 2019, 12:44:14 PM
Msgr Perez and Cannon Hesse were good friends- kind of in the same boat. Both had Conciliar ordinations- don't know about conditional ordinations for either of them.
If I recall Fr. Hesse correctly, Fr. Perez had a Traditional Ordination by a new-rite consecrated bishop, whereas Fr. Hess had a new-rite ordination with an old-rite consecrated bishop. Three SSPX bishops (Tissier, Williamson and Fellay) have stated at various times that both these priests are valid and do not need to be re-ordained. Please check with Fr. Perez for details.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Lady in Waiting on January 17, 2019, 07:42:56 PM
Hello. I have been reading these things about Fr. Hewko and OLMC and what I would like to see are some actual quotes, photos, eye witness accounts about just what is specifically wrong with OLMC.

*Moderated*
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Matthew on January 17, 2019, 07:57:11 PM
Lady in Waiting,

Whether you're sincerely that ignorant, or just being intentionally obtuse, I don't have time to go back to square one with you. And I don't have patience to deal with someone who acts as if CathInfo started yesterday and the information just isn't available. Sorry, we're not going to do all your thinking or homework for you.

The evidence is all over the place. Just use the CathInfo "search" function.

But don't kid yourself -- this couldn't possibly be rumor, error, or misunderstanding. The evidence against Fr. Pfeiffer is legion, convincing, public, and goes back many years. And the number of witnesses (including myself) number in the hundreds.

No, we're not all making some terrible mistake that for some reason none of us can see, until YOU came along -- the chosen one! 
Ah, we just needed a little honest boy to have the insight, honesty, and guts to say that the Emperor has no clothes on after all, and everybody can start clapping!

I encourage you to open your eyes and wake up to the reality of the situation.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Pax Vobis on January 17, 2019, 07:57:57 PM
I’d you do a search on this site for “Pfeiffer” or “Pablo” you’ll find lots of info.  

Their sermons online might be mostly orthodox but the problems are related to their property and seminary.  They’ve also been supporting a fake bishop and housing some priests who’ve been involved in scandals.  This last part is the worst problem, in my opinion, and it’s easily verifiable.  
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: MaterDominici on January 17, 2019, 08:03:07 PM
Hello. I have been reading these things about Fr. Hewko and OLMC and what I would like to see are some actual quotes, photos, eye witness accounts about just what is specifically wrong with OLMC.
There are 4+ years of Fr. Pfeiffer scandals docuмented in discussions on this site. And, as "St Paul" pointed out, it's certainly not limited to just one topic. You'll need to focus your inquiry by a large degree if you want an answer to this question.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: MaterDominici on January 17, 2019, 08:05:05 PM
They’ve also been supporting a fake bishop and housing some priests who’ve been involved in scandals.  This last part is the worst problem, in my opinion, and it’s easily verifiable.  
It's almost funny how far Pablo himself has fallen down the list in terms of the "worst problem" with OLMC. The pile is stacking so high that Pablo is almost an afterthought.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Matthew on January 17, 2019, 08:08:55 PM
It's extremely trying to one's patience to have someone come in after a long time and presume to wipe the slate clean, asking the entire forum to go back to square one.

But here is the real problem with that:

If one considers all the past posts on CI as so much rumor and fluff, such that they "don't count", then why not just leave? If one doesn't believe thousands of posts over the past several years filled with evidence and reason, posted by devout Traditional Catholics everywhere, including many first-hand witnesses, then such a person is not going to believe some all-new post I waste several hours typing up from scratch.

Lady in Waiting had better take the hint and do more learning/reading/research and less "teaching" before she's equipped to do so. Especially when that "teaching" involves a thinly veiled slap on the face against half the CathInfo membership.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 17, 2019, 09:59:13 PM
Thanks to people like LiW, there will always be support for Pfeifferville. Mountains of evidence don't matter as much as the ability to tell people what they want to hear. Maybe the draw also comes from being validated in a small exclusive community. I keep trying to come up with reasons why but at a certain point I can't trace the desire to be part of the OLMC cult. As evidenced by this thread alone, there are long time forum members here who still feel the need to defend these guys. It's like some strange kind of spiritual flypaper over there. 
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 18, 2019, 05:28:47 AM
Even though he's gone back and forth with Pfeifferville, Tony La Rosa has continued to add to the list of deceptions authored by Moran. Tony was one of the more diehard supporters and still would be had it not been for Ambrose so, keep that in mind. Still, this is useful to further illustrate the laundry list of problems with Moran.  

http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2018_10_07_THE_PROBLEM_WITH_AMBROSE_MORAN_Quebec_Resistance.pdf

Here's a yearbook photo of Ambrose a year before his "ordination."

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Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 18, 2019, 06:01:43 AM
Looking back on his website, I didn't realize how much he antagonized Matthew directly. My apologies, I have no desire to pile on.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Mr G on January 18, 2019, 12:43:25 PM
Hello. I have been reading these things about Fr. Hewko and OLMC and what I would like to see are some actual quotes, photos, eye witness accounts about just what is specifically wrong with OLMC.

*Moderated*
For actual quotes, look for Fr. Hewko's letter announcing his intention to leave OLMC because of "Bishop" Moran. (It should be at the beginning of this topic thread on P.1) Then there is the letter from Fr. Raphel O.SB.
Then for another eye-witness account, look for Fr. Voight's letter describing what happened at his time at OLMC and why he had to leave.
Then for more quotes and eye-wittiness accounts look for the announcement from the various chapel coordinators that announced that their chapel will no longer invite the priests from OLMC.
With more searching you will see some other eye-witness accounts of people who stayed at the OLMC compound.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 18, 2019, 01:40:28 PM
Fr. Hewko is at OLMC involved in the next two weeks with examination time with the seminarians there!  OLMC appears to be putting along at its usual ordinary pace with no problems.

There are no specific facts about Fr. Hewko or Fr. Pfieffer on your site that I can find.  I simply support those who conform to Trent, and Archbishop Lefebvre, match apples with apples and oranges with oranges.

I asked a friend what he knew about "forums" and he informed inexperienced me that often they are run by people who just want their own point of view supported, they create a "sound chamber" attracting those who do not want to use higher intelligence *snip*


There is really no excuse not being able to find information on the subject here! Facts are they have allowed one very worldly layman thug to manage a seminary and another layman to masquerade as a priest and a bishop all to further an agenda that rejects every other form of traditional Catholicism out there. The evidence is overwhelming. You want to live in the bubble of your choosing while daring other people to burst it for you.

All things Moran:
https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?pretty;board=19;topic=42208.0

Self described "exorcist" Paul Hernandez:
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez-6418725

Fr. Voigt's first hand account of his trials at OLMC:
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-voigt-responds-to-pablos-accusations/

A woman who came forward to describe her assault and swindling at the hands of Pablo, Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko:
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/nightmare-in-boston-lies-swindling-etc-by-pablo/

Consider the bubble burst. But thank you for confirming Fr. Hewko has no plans to leave!
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Matthew on January 18, 2019, 02:26:10 PM
My masculine intuition was correct!

She was a troll after all.

See how she called it a "sound chamber"? She meant "echo chamber" but was trying to seem "original" not like an average troll. If I wanted to troll or create a 2nd account on a forum just to mess around with people, I could see myself doing something similar, that is: trying to come up with original terms, synonyms for everything, etc. to make sure I don't talk too much like someone else, especially my main persona. 

But while it's hard to explain how I know, all I know is that it seems incredibly fishy. Like an alien trying to blend in with humans, he's going to say things wrong, and act just weird enough, just often enough to raise suspicions.

I have to laugh. 


Quote
I asked a friend what he knew about "forums"
Oh yeah, that's real natural. Not a troll at all!

When they go too far in feigning ignorance -- that's always a dead giveaway of trolling.

And her "Introduce Yourself" story about dancing through the Alpine mountains playing "Sound of Music" was a bit over the top.

Someone's having a bit of fun with us. Oh well -- I'm cutting off the nonsense now.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Banezian on January 19, 2019, 04:49:44 PM
Well it’s almost the end of the week. We should hear from Fr. Hewko on Monday then?
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Maria Regina on January 19, 2019, 05:12:22 PM
Well it’s almost the end of the week. We should hear from Fr. Hewko on Monday then?
Perhaps you will hear a Sunday sermon?
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Banezian on January 19, 2019, 05:24:04 PM
Perhaps you will hear a Sunday sermon?
I meant “we” as in us here on Cathinfo. I have zero connections to Pfeifferville( thank goodness )Maybe RadTradThomist will update its story
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: St Paul on January 21, 2019, 06:17:38 PM
"...Disassociated publicly from him [moran] within a week..."  

Time is up.

Will Fr. Hewko follow through with the threat, was he bluffing, or is he weak?


"Dear Faithful, we must pray! We all suffer in this diabolical disorientation that Our Lady of Fatima warned about affecting the entire Church. Regarding Bp. Ambrose Moran, I notified Fr. Pfeiffer that if OLMC has not disassociated publicly from him within a week, I will be obliged to leave. For many reasons this is a dead end. Please offer your Rosaries to Our Blessed Mother for Her intercession!  [Received from Fr. David Hewko, January 13, 2019]
 (http://www.thecatacombs.org/thread/1705/statement-hewko-concerning-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4000)
http://www.thecatacombs.org/thread/1705/statement-hewko-concerning-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4000 (http://www.thecatacombs.org/thread/1705/statement-hewko-concerning-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4000)"
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: JmJ2cents on January 21, 2019, 06:36:16 PM
Yes he should respond as he said he would.  This is a public scandal and needs to be corrected publicly.  Has anyone seen his Sunday Sermon?  I don't know how to find them anymore.  If so he may have said something there.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Banezian on January 21, 2019, 06:45:30 PM
Does this count as “public disassociation”
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-pfeiffer's-letter-to-moran/ (https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-pfeiffer's-letter-to-moran/)
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: St Paul on January 21, 2019, 07:53:18 PM
Does this count as “public disassociation”
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-pfeiffer's-letter-to-moran/ (https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-pfeiffer's-letter-to-moran/)
I dont think so, but i am not Fr. Hewko.
Fr. Pfeiffer is not publicly disassociating from moran in his letter, only the use of moran for orders.
We have heard this before and were deceived.
I hope fr. Hewko is smart enough to see through the deceit.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: donkath on January 21, 2019, 11:31:56 PM
Update:

 (http://thecatacombs.org/thread/1734/letter-ambrose-moran-pfeiffer-january?page=1&scrollTo=4042)
http://thecatacombs.org/thread/1734/letter-ambrose-moran-pfeiffer-january?page=1&scrollTo=4042 (http://thecatacombs.org/thread/1734/letter-ambrose-moran-pfeiffer-january?page=1&scrollTo=4042)

 (http://thecatacombs.org/thread/1733/recusants-study-on-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4041)
http://thecatacombs.org/thread/1733/recusants-study-on-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4041 (http://thecatacombs.org/thread/1733/recusants-study-on-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4041)
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Maria Regina on January 21, 2019, 11:37:13 PM
Update:

 (http://thecatacombs.org/thread/1734/letter-ambrose-moran-pfeiffer-january?page=1&scrollTo=4042)
http://thecatacombs.org/thread/1734/letter-ambrose-moran-pfeiffer-january?page=1&scrollTo=4042 (http://thecatacombs.org/thread/1734/letter-ambrose-moran-pfeiffer-january?page=1&scrollTo=4042)

 (http://thecatacombs.org/thread/1733/recusants-study-on-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4041)
http://thecatacombs.org/thread/1733/recusants-study-on-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4041 (http://thecatacombs.org/thread/1733/recusants-study-on-ambrose-moran?page=1&scrollTo=4041)
These links are not available as they are a private smart mail account.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: donkath on January 21, 2019, 11:59:41 PM
1.
This letter to Ambrose Moran was just sent to us, with the request that it be posted on behalf of Fr. Pfeiffer:


January 16 2019
Dear Archbishop Ambrose,

Please be Advised that to this date final sufficient verification required by the Church to use your episcopal powers for our Seminary is not in our hands. You have been asked and given ample time to provide the necessary certificates with real clear authentication. You have not done so. We did all we could on our part to facilitate your obtention of all necessary proofs. Hence, We cannot proceed with any allowance of your services in capacity of Bishop for Our Lady of Mt. Carmel Seminary.

In Christ,

Fr Joseph Pfeiffer
Rector

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7 hours ago (http://thecatacombs.org/post/4041/thread) Greg Taylor said:
APPENDIX A

“His Beatitude, Archbishop Metropolitan” Ambrose “excommunicates” a Catholic layman by name during the sermon:
“There are people who have slandered me and my episcopate and this is a very serious matter. … There is a character out there by the name of Tony La Rosa. And he is attacking our [sic] episcopate … And I’m here to tell you that I am an Archbishop and a Metropolitan and I am the authority in the Catholic Church at this time, and you are self-condemned, Mr. La Rosa. If you were in Holy Orders I would declare you deposed, defrocked. And also you are excommunicated from the Catholic Church because of your pride and rebelliousness. … So, as a hierarch, I must declare, rule, announce, judge, that Tony La Rosa is in a state of excommunication. And I warn some of the priests that if they continue their comments and nasty behavior, they will be deposed and excommunicated. Now you may say that I don’t have the authority to do that. I have the power to bind and to loose by virtue of the fact that I am a bishop. And I’m going to exercise that authority and jurisdiction by announcing the fact that you, tony La Rosa, have excommunicated yourself. And some of these priests soon, it will be announced that they are deposed and excommunicated. And if you want to take the chance of saying: ‘Oh that’s not true, we don’t accept that,’ – that’s fine, do that. And keep arguing that in hell. Because you will appear before the dread judgement seat of Christ, unless you repent you will appear there already condemned. This nonsense has to stop. So be it.”


On the recent 469fitter video: The Lead Investigator Speaks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMEjG_hri-8), a comment from Byron Roy included the request to be "excommunicated' as well. None other than Moran himself replied to the commentary:

"You are certainly excommunicated." 

This is now way beyond bizarre!



 
What are we to make of William “Ambrose” Moran?

[A copy of this report was sent to Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko on 12th Jan., 2019.
Below is the same report containing the same findings, very lightly edited.]

London,
12th Jan, 2018

Some months ago I was asked by Fr. Pfeiffer to put something together regarding Ambrose Moran and what conclusions I had come to concerning his incredible tale. I didn’t manage to do that in the end, though having spent several days in Kentucky and Ohio, pouring over the evidence and discussing it back and forth, I did express some misgivings. I also strongly recommended that no further action in the matter should be taken until some serious issues were resolved. Partly through apathy or laziness and partly because I hoped it would be unnecessary, I prepared nothing in written form. It is only now, in view of the situation in which we find ourselves, a situation not of my making, and with a large number of people asking me about it, that I feel I ought to put pen to paper and see what sense can be made of it all.

The question of Ambrose Moran is far from resolved. As I think anyone who has been involved in this business will admit, I have tried giving this man the benefit of the doubt and have been concerned that he should be seen to have a fair hearing. I have met and talked with him several times and at length, have listened to what he has to say, have been prepared to take his word at face value and have tried seeing things in his favour. I have defended him against what I perceived to be unjust attacks (that he was never baptised a Catholic, for example). And yet as to his entire story of who he is, I remain unconvinced, and since my last visit, even less convinced than ever before. The more I have seen, the less I like it.

First, let me summarise where I think the problem lies.

Here is what one can reasonably accept:
  • That he is a baptised Catholic from the time of his birth.
  • That he went to Catholic school and Catholic minor seminary.
  • That he professes the Catholic Faith today.
  • That he was for a certain period accepted as a priest of the Eparchy of Toronto, and therefore, as a Catholic priest; and that during that relatively limited period of time, he worked in Catholic parishes.
  • That he may well have valid orders as a bishop, albeit perhaps via the schismatic Orthodox.



What I don’t think one can reasonably accept, is the following:
  • That he has anything Ukrainian at all in his background
  • That he was consecrated bishop by Cardinal Slipyj in 1976
  • That he is a Metropolitan Archbishop with the style “His Beatitude”
  • That he currently possesses ordinary jurisdiction
  • That he was always and only Catholic and never had even the slightest dalliance with the Orthodox.



There are other things which I don’t think I would accept, such as his claim to royalty, but that really is a great deal less important. In brief, the weak link in the chain is Cardinal Slipyj. There are precisely three pieces of docuмentary evidence which connect Bishop Ambrose with Cardinal Slipyj. They are the picture purporting to show the two of them outside St. Sophia’s Cathedral in Rome, the letter purportedly from Bishop Isidore Borecky in 1976, stating that Ambrose is made Metropolitan Archbishop and the successor of Cardinal Slipyj, and the alleged consecration certificate supposedly signed by Slipyj in 1976. All three of these are fraudulent docuмents, as I will show shortly, and a satisfactory explanation for any of them has yet to be found.



The Picture

As to the first, the picture of Ambrose Moran and Cardinal Slipyj [APPENDIX B] is clearly a doctored image. So far, I am aware of at least three separate explanations from its owner. In October 2015, in Kentucky, Ambrose said that the picture was real but that as he had been standing further back and Slipyj slightly further forward, the light struck them in a slightly different way. In short, he said it was a trick of the light which made the image look doctored. In July 2018, in Ohio, he avowed that the unusual appearance of the picture was because, as it was being taken, Cardinal Slipyj tripped or stumbled or fell forwards slightly. In the recent docuмent sent to some of the faithful and titled “Reply to 23 Points,” the answer given was simply “Metropolitan Ambrose did not take the photos, they were provided to him.” And yet he has vouched for this picture’s authenticity in the past, he supplied it to us, and in one version (below), at the foot of the image can clearly be read the words: “St. Sophia Cathedral – Rome – following Consecration of Bp. Ambrose”. These words are written in pen, in Bishop Ambrose’s own handwriting. Therefore it is simply not good enough, not credible nor for that matter reasonable to reply by saying, in effect: ‘I have no idea, that picture was given to me by someone, I’m not responsible for it.’ The fake appearance of the image is sufficiently obvious, it is the only picture out of all the hundreds showing these two men together in each other’s company, and he has written his own caption at the bottom which claims that it is genuine. Furthermore, the fact that he has now given at least three separate explanations which I am aware of, each distinct and each equally unconvincing, suggests a certain lack of candour at the very least. This raises the question: “Why?” Why does the picture exist to begin with? Why has he changed his story and given different and distinct explanations for it? And why have we still not heard anything at all convincing?

It is perhaps worth noting that Moran looks too old in the picture. He looks to be in his 30s, although the picture is supposed to have been taken in 1976. It looks more like a 1980s picture of Moran pasted together with a 1970s picture of Slipyj. I hadn’t noticed that until it was pointed it to me last summer, but it is true. The forgery was probably done in the 1980s.


The Letter

As to the letter, the docuмent purporting to be a letter from Bishop Isidore Borecky [APPENDIX F] has the letterhead of the Eparchy of Toronto but no reference code at the top. Furthermore, a careful examination of the signature of the bottom shows that it is quite obviously identical to the letter of 1975 accepting Fr. Moran into the Eparchy for a two-year trial period [APPENDIX E]. The signature has been copied and pasted, one can see anomalies where the original signature crossed over the printed name (the top of the “B” in the signature “Borecky,” which crosses over the typed words “Our Lord” in the original letter, for example has had to be fudged and looks very unconvincing when viewed close-up). Even the smudge marks and little dots next to the signature are identical. It is a clear forgery. Again, one is left to ask the important question: “Why?”
Also worthy of note is that this letter is the only one directly connecting Ambrose and Slipyj. So the one and only picture and the one and only letter connecting the two men each turn out to be forgeries. What is his explanation for this forged letter? Is he simply going to say “I don’t know, someone gave it to me, I’m not responsible…” as he did recently with the fake picture? What are the chances that a man claiming to be a Ukrainian Archbishop and to have been consecrated by possibly the most famous Ukrainian Catholic of the whole 20th Century would have only one letter and one picture in his possession relating to this, the most important event of his life, and would somehow have failed to notice that either of them was a forgery? That is not reasonable; I don’t think any reasonable person could accept that.

As to why this forged letter exists, a clue may lie in the contents of the letter, a letter which one strongly suspects was written by Ambrose himself. It begins:
“Most Reverend and dear Bishop Amvrosij: With our most sincere congratulations and cooperation upon your consecration in Rome by His Beatitude Patriarch Josef Cardinal Slipyj and our humble self…”

“With our most sincere congratulations…” is a phrase which sounds normal enough, but “our congratulations and cooperation” sounds, in my humble opinion, somewhat contrived. It is the first time the author (allegedly Bishop Isidore Borecky) refers to the fact that he helped Slipyj to consecrate Moran, before going on to mention “your consecration in Rome by … Slipyj and our humble self” which is the second reference. So the author, “Borecky,” begins by reminding Moran that he helped Slipyj to consecrate him; he then goes on to remind Moran that he helped Slipyj to consecrate him. As I say, it comes across as a little too contrived, he’s trying a little too hard here.

Next the author informs Moran (although really, the way the letter is written, it is to inform whomever Moran shows the letter to), that he has in his possession:
“…the Consecration or Cheritonia Docuмent in both Unranian [sic] and English signed and sealed by His Beatitude and the Co-Consecrators.”

This again, appears to me to be somewhat contrived. For example, why say that it is “signed and sealed” – if he has in his possession the docuмent from the Cardinal who consecrated him, then of course it is signed and sealed. A signature and a seal are to prove authenticity. This is like saying ‘I have in my possession your Consecration Docuмent, and it is authentic.’ I somehow can’t imagine a real Bishop Isidore Borecky saying that. Then there is the reference to it being also signed by the other co-consecrators. This is surely a slip-up. There was (allegedly) only one other co-consecrator, the American ex-Lutheran who called himself “Dimitri” Gaines. Why did he not mention who the co-consecrators were? Why no mention of “Dimitri” Gaines? I suspect the answer is that the forger had not yet decided exactly who “the co-consecrators” were to have been.

“We agree to bring this announcement at your request to Cardinal Cooke of New York…”

Here is another interesting point. There is no letter from Cardinal Cooke saying, ‘Bishop Borecky has just told me that you were consecrated in Rome by Slipyj, what’s going on, is this true?’ or some other such response. There is one picture of Ambrose and Cardinal Cooke together, the former in bishop’s purple, the latter in his Cardinal’s red. [APPENDIX C] The picture is a forgery, just like the picture of Slipyj and Ambrose. One can clearly see that a picture of Cooke has been superimposed onto a picture of Ambrose. Again, only one picture of the two of them, the only evidence connecting them, and it turns out to be a forgery – what are the odds? And why? Was it created to back up this reference in the forged letter?
In passing, I cannot help wondering whether anyone has ever seen the alleged Cardinal Slipyj consecration certificate in Ukrainian, to which the letter refers? It is worth mentioning only because if, as I have reason to believe, Ambrose does not come from a Ukrainian background and does not speak or write fluent Ukrainian, and if, as seems more than likely he is the one responsible for the forgery, then the existence of a forged certificate identical to the English one but written in Ukrainian is an unlikely proposition at best.

The reference in the second half of the letter to Ambrose being appointed “Metropolitan Archbishop and Coadjutor-Successor” by Slipyj is entirely superfluous and gratuitous. It is an extraordinary claim which requires extraordinary evidence, or at least some evidence, not least because it is being made in a forged docuмent and because the facts contradict it. The letter says that Slipyj “will announce…” all this – did he, in fact, announce any such thing? No. Complex stories involving modernist intrigue and so forth notwithstanding, the fact remains that the only evidence of Ambrose being a “Metropolitan Archbishop Coadjutor Successor” is a forgery. Just as the only two pictures which support this letter, the fake Cardinal Slipyj picture and the bogus one with Cardinal Cooke, are also forgeries.

We will mention later the Police reports from Colorado. They demonstrate beyond any doubt what is already demonstrated by these forged pictures and docuмents alone: that Ambrose Moran is a liar and not above a bit of fairly serious fraud. We have a fake picture of him and Cardinal Slipyj which was obtained from him and which he now (understandably) wishes to distance himself from, despite it being captioned in his own handwriting. We also have a fake letter purporting to come from “Isidore Borecky” reminding him that he had helped Slipyj to consecrate him and telling him that he is now made “Metropolitan Archbishop and Coadjutor-Successor,” a letter whose signature has clearly been lifted directly from the genuine and far less impressive letter of Feb. 1975. The letter also says that Cardinal Cooke will be informed – and lo and behold, we also have a fake picture of Ambrose with Cardinal Cooke. And like the fake Slipyj picture, the fake Cardinal Cooke picture is also captioned in Ambrose’s own hand, which instantly defeats any sophisms about “I didn’t take the picture so I’m not responsible…” an so on.

There is other circuмstantial evidence which also points to his supposed connection to Cardinal Slipyj being nothing more than another spurious fantasy dreamt up by a man who cannot be relied on to tell the truth. Personal contact with the man leaves one noticing the odd fact that his stories about Slipyj are always the same and always the sort of thing which everyone knew, about how in the Gulag they lined up the priests and shot them one after the other, etc. None of his stories about Slipyj have any personal connection, they are totally devoid of personal details, the little details which people always have when they knew, were friends with or worked-closely with someone, and which only they could know. It is as though Ambrose has no personal anecdotes about himself and Slipyj (the sort of thing which might begin: “Then there was the time when Cardinal Slipyj slapped me on the back and said to me…”). This does not ring true if we are to believe that he was personally chosen by Slipyj to be secretly consecrated, at an extremely young age (27 – well below the canonical age) and very soon after appointed (still aged 27) as Metropolitan Archbishop and Slipyj’s Coadjutor-Successor. It sounds almost silly having to point this out, it’s so obvious. Likewise, does he even speak Ukrainian? Does he speak Russian? One might have thought so, given that he was supposedly trained by the Russian Jesuits and chosen by Slipyj to go behind the lines “like a spy” (in his own words), behind the iron curtain. But again, from personal contact with the man, I don’t think he speaks either language. I think he knows a few pat phrases in Ukrainian, the sort of thing that every Ukrainian-rite faithful might know, the equivalent of “Dominus vobiscuм” or “Per omnia saecula saeculorum” – but I really don’t think he speaks fluent Ukrainian at all. His parents on his baptismal certificate have “ordinary” New York names (Moran is Scottish, I think, or Irish) and from his baptism in 1949 onwards there is no hint of anything Ukrainian or Eastern-rite about him until suddenly he is a Ukrainian-rite cleric in the mid-1970s. Isn’t that at least a little odd?


The Consecration Certificate

One thing which might yield interesting results would be to look into the man called “Dimitri” Gaines and discover who exactly he was. If I am right, then he was just some guy, a mate of Ambrose, an American ex-Lutheran who joined Ambrose’s tiny vagus garage-bishop group some time in the 80s or 90s. Ambrose himself told me, when asked, that Dimitri was the man’s religious name, and that he was an ex-Lutheran before becoming “Ukrainian rite” with them. The question about “Dimitri” Gaines was off the cuff. He answered unsuspectingly. Had he been a little more on his guard, I think he may not have admitted that. And yet Gaines was supposedly the co-consecrator, alongside Cardinal Slipyj and Bishop Borecky, in St. Sophia’s Cathedral, Rome, in 1976. He supposedly was chosen to personally represent Maximos V Hakim, the Lebanese patriarch, at that momentous occasion. He wasn’t Lebanese and as far as we know, didn’t speak a word of French or Arabic, and indeed as far as we know, he wasn’t even on the “Ukrainian scene” back in 1976 – all the pictures of him are from the 80s or 90s. And in all those pictures, he is clearly dressed and acting as an arch-priest alongside Ambrose, who is vested and acting as bishop [APPENDICES J, K & L]. And yet he was supposedly already a bishop in 1976? And we have to accept this incredible claim, because, if it turns out that Gaines’s signature as a co-consecrator on the certificate is a genuine signature of a man who was not a bishop, then that alone undermines the certificate as a whole. Ambrose needed three signatures on the certificate. That one of them should be Cardinal Slipyj was obvious, he is the starring role in his story and sufficiently famous that examples of his signature are out there. Isidore Borecky was an obvious choice for the second name, after all, he had corresponded with Fr. Moran in the 1970s and so a copy of his signature was relatively easy. But a third signatory may have presented a problem. It is not unlikely that Moran “solved” this problem by simply inventing a fictitious bishop and getting his close friend and co-conspirator to sign it.

I have seen the original certificate. It is in a narrow gold frame with a glass front. I saw it in the summer of 2018 in Ohio. There is no doubt at all that that was the original “Slipyj” consecration certificate. For reference, I have included a photograph of that very same original certificate, in the same frame, taken by Fr. Pfeiffer (who is partly reflected in the glass) in 2015, mounted in a display case at Ambrose Moran’s then- home in Colorado [APPENDIX I]. It is unquestionably the same one. Once again, Ambrose has captioned that picture of the certificate in his own hand: “Consecration Certificate in English of Metropolitan Archbishop Ambrose.” I have held that very certificate in my hands: I did not take it out of its frame, but there was no need to. The gold seal, which looks three-dimensional in a photo, is clearly two-dimensional when viewed close up in real life. Furthermore the type is highly suspect. I am convinced that any forensic investigator who works in the insurance fraud industry would confirm that that certificate was typed on the same machine used to type the fake 1976 Borecky-Slipyj letter mentioned above. Take a look close-up at the way the Capital ‘M’s are badly printed in exactly the same way, for example. They may not be able to tell when it was typed using just an image and not the original, but if they could I would be willing to bet that both docuмents were created in the 1980s, not the 1970s.

Incidentally, that that would be consistent with the unusual conundrum of his name: his surname is simply “Moran” from his baptism in 1949 all the way through to the end of the 1970s, and it seems to become “Moran-Dolgorouky” from the 1980s onwards. Both the fake Borecky-Slipyj letter and the consecration certificate refer to him as “Moran-Dolgorouky”. No other picture or docuмent from the 1970s or earlier can be found with the name “Dolgorouky.” The Feb. 1975 letter of Borecky granting him a two-year trial period in the Eparchy of Toronto, for example, refers to him simply as “Rev. William E. Moran”. Why might that be? I think it is because his royal pedigree is of the same order as Metropolitan-Coadjutor pedigree: a fantasy from the 1980s.

I has been pointed out to me more than once that a letter was discovered recently in the Ukrainian Catholic archives in Rome, a letter from Bishop Isidore Borecky writing to Cardinal Slipyj and saying, in essence, “I have been approached by a bishop and two priests (Nicholas Ilnyicki with Moran and Ropke) asking to be taken into the Eparchy. Is this OK by you?” This, it might be thought, proves a connection between Moran and Slipyj. Well, yes and no. Yes, indirectly, but not in the way that it would need to. It proves first of all that Moran’s claim that in 1974 he was a priest of the Archeparchy of Lviv who was then loaned to Borecky by Slipyj is not true, since then we would see the opposite: instead of Borecky writing to Slipyj inform him about a bishop and two priests who have approached him and asking to be taken under his wing, we would expect to see Slipyj writing to Borecky to tell him about one of his priests whom he was sending him and who would be arriving shortly. Secondly, it does not connect Moran directly with Slipyj. It only connects him with Borecky, and Borecky with Slipyj. That Borecky can be connected with Slipyj is hardly surprising: one was a Ukrainian Catholic bishop, the other a Ukrainian Catholic Cardinal and Patriarch. But it leaves the same problem. Where is the evidence connecting Moran and Slipyj directly? Why is there no 1974 letter from Slipyj, for example, saying “To Whom It May Concern, the bearer of this letter is one of my priests of the Archeparchy of Lviv…” etc..? Once again, the only things connecting the two men are forgeries and fakes. In short, this letter which I have not yet seen, if it says what I understand it to say, does not help Moran’s case. It only adds further questions and serves to further contradict his own claims.



The Other Pictures

Many pictures are entirely irrelevant since they do not show Moran (the pictures of Cardinal Slipyj in Rome, for example, or of St. Sophia Cathedral). I think, if you look at all of the pictures of Moran, taken as a whole they can be broken down into three broad categories.

  • The pictures from the 1970s as a priest;
  • The pictures from the 1980s onwards as a bishop;
  • The pictures of him with important people.

The ‘Important People’ Pictures - some of the pictures of him with important people are either taken as a fan would take a “selfie” with a celebrity in our own day (the picture of Ambrose and Dr. Joyce Brothers looks a little like that to me, as though he came up to her at the end of a talk, and asked to have her picture taken with him, as one might ask for an autograph). They are obviously posed, and they are one-offs. We have one or two pictures of him alongside Novus Ordo bishops. ‘Once only and never again’ is how a forger, a faker, a confidence trickster acts. They have to keep moving so as not to be found out. It is like the laymen who pretend to be priests: if they show up one time and have what looks like a celebret or some docuмentation, for a one-off, they may well get away with it; whereas if they come back a second or third week in a row, somebody is going to look a little closer and they risk getting caught; worse, if they are caught, others might be alerted and forewarned. So they have to keep moving. I cannot prove definitively that that is what is going on here, but it fits and it fits a lot better than the fantastic story of the Coadjutor-Successor of Slipyj not being properly accepted by the modernist bishops even though they all knew full well who he was (how convenient!).

Other pictures in this category are obvious forgeries. That is something the dozen-or-so forgeries I have seen from Ambrose all seem to have in common: they are all pictures of Ambrose with someone important. The Slipyj picture and the Cardinal Cooke picture have already been mentioned. The Pope John Paul II picture [APPENDIX D] is an obvious forgery too, a composite of two pictures, similar to that of Cardinal Cooke. Then there are the several forged pictures showing Archbishop Hrihorij (Gregory) of Holy Protection Cathedral, Chicago. There are at least five of these that I know of, though more may exist. There exists a picture showing Hrihorij saying Mass, and only him. Then there is the same picture with Moran pasted into the background (amusingly, it is the exact same picture of Moran which has been used to create the fake picture with Cardinal Slipij!) Then there is a third version of the same picture, into which not only Moran but “Dimitri” Gaines has also been pasted. Three different versions of the same picture! The one with only Hrihorij is clearly the original. The other two are clearly forgeries. Then there is the forged picture purporting to show both Moran and Hrihorij inside what I take to be Holy Protection Cathedral, at any rate they are standing at an iconostasis with the doors open. And there is also the picture of what appears at first glance to be three bishops in a row, used on Moran’s now-defunct website, at least two distinct versions of which exist. All fake.

These several forgeries involving Hrihorij are extremely troubling to anyone who is familiar with Ambrose’s story. If Ambrose’s episcopal consecration at the hands of Cardinal Slipyj is highly dubious and the subject of several forgeries to try support it, then that is his Catholic episcopal pedigree undermined; what then happens when we begin to suspect something about his other line of episcopal orders? He obtained them in Holy Protection Cathedral via Hrihorij, the same Hrihorij who has been pasted into several fake pictures. This would need looking into afresh and with a keener eye than has been used hitherto. Once one realises that Ambrose is not above telling all sorts of lies for his own personal benefit, once one realises that his word means nothing (see the Colorado Police reports already mentioned if there is any doubt at all about that!), then everything he says is suspect and needs looking at again. I would have been willing, previously, to accept on balance that he has valid episcopal orders, albeit via the Orthodox. Now I am not entirely sure even of that. It may turn out to be true after all, but as of this moment I think it is not certain.

Pictures from the 1980s Onwards - These all show him as a bishop. There are no pictures from the 1970s of him as a bishop, despite his claiming to have been consecrated in the mid-70s. Most of the pictures are non-liturgical, either they are not taken in the sanctuary or the subjects are not vested or both. The picture purporting to show Toronto Jesuits, for example, has some vested and some not, and is not in the sanctuary. The few liturgical functions seem almost entirely to be either weddings if they are in a ‘normal’ looking church, or not in a church at all (e.g. in a building with a tin roof, or in the small ‘house chapel’ in his then-home). Unlike the 1970s pictures, there are no ‘normal’ sized congregations, just a tiny number of people, smaller than a resistance function! “Dimtri” Gaines is present in some of them, though always as an archpriest. Like the “important people” pictures, these ceremonies seem always to be one-offs.

Pictures from the 1970s - These are the most authentic and speak the most highly for Ambrose, though I suppose we should call him “Fr. William Moran” when we are talking about this period. They show him working as a priest, in schools, in parishes, with lots of parishioners, nuns, etc. a context which is entirely absent from his later (80s, 90s and 2000s) pictures. There are two or three newspaper cuttings. Very often he is in the company of a Fr. John Ropke. One or two of them are obviously posed, which raises a question as to why the picture was taken. The picture of Fr. Moran in St. Nicholas Church, Passaic, for example. It is unquestionably the altar and sanctuary of the church, just as it is unquestionably Fr. Moran in the picture wearing vestments. Yet there is nothing on the altar and the candles are not lit. Mass is not going on nor is it about to start. No servers or anyone else can be seen, he appears to be entirely on his own together with the person who took the picture. So why was the picture taken? Who knows, but it is not something a normal priest in a parish would do. But I digress…

The other thing which I find striking about this period is that there are so many pictures covering so comparatively short a time, as compared to relatively few pictures from before or after. Why might that be?

I have mentioned above being told of the existence of a letter from Borecky to Slipyj, saying that he has been approached by a bishop and two priests (one of whom is Fr. Moran), and we know that in Feb. 1975 Borecky wrote to Moran to tell him that he was accepted as a priest of his diocese for a two-year trial period, after which time, “a review of your record will be made and the possibility of incardination will be discussed.” [APPENDIX E] We know that the two year period ran out. Next we see a “Fr. Basil Moran” writing to Borecky in 1980 [APPENDIX G] telling him that he is joining the Orthodox Church in America. We know from Fr. Tosi, Secretary of the Orthodox Church in America, who looked in the archives of that Church, that Moran did approach them and apply to join, that he applied to join as an Archimandrite (arch-priest) not as a bishop and that he was interviewed by them though they ultimately rejected him. We also know that there are no pictures or docuмents showing him working in parishes or schools as late as 1980, and that is hardly surprising: in the same letter, Moran states plainly that “I was under your jurisdiction for two years” and gives the dates as “February 14, 1975 to February 14, 1977.” So what really went on? Fr. Moran closes by telling Bishop Borecky:

“I hope your grace will rejoice with me in this solution to my canonical situation which can now finally be resolved.”

What “canonical situation” requiring the “solution” of joining the Orthodox would that be, I wonder? And why “finally”? It sounds to me like he had been canonically homeless for the past three years. The 1975 letter shows Bishop Borecky giving him a two-year trial period “…after which the possibility of incardination will be discussed.” This 1980 letter demonstrates beyond reasonable doubt that Borecky chose not to incardinate him but sent him packing once those two years ran out. Why, we cannot be sure. I do not intend here to re-run his own long and complicated explanation for all of this. My own experience dealing with naughty boys in school has taught me that when a person’s explanation of their own conduct turns out to be improbably long and complicated, it is a sign that its narrator is not telling the truth. If a priest of the Resistance, Fr. Pfeiffer for example, had to explain their history, ordination and canonical standing, it would be remarkably simple and might go something like this: ‘I entered the SSPX seminary in 1988, was ordained by an SSPX bishop in 1994, worked as an SSPX priest in SSPX parishes until founding the Resistance in 2012.’ How’s that for a thirty-year history? It has a simplicity about it which only the truth can have, despite the fact that we are used to thinking of the Resistance, the SSPX and all the rest as requiring complicated, detailed explanations. This is a simplicity totally lacking in Moran’s story. No, his explanation sounds highly improbable to me. What I will note is that, whereas he claims that although he wrote those words to Borecky, he only did it to test Borecky’s response and never intended to carry out his stated intention, the letter itself appears to suggest otherwise. His letter opens by stating, not that “I will submit...” or “I intend to submit…” but that “I have submitted to the jurisdiction of Metropolitan Archbishop Theodosius of the Orthodox Church in America.” Thus Moran is reduced to having to falsifying his own witness, a letter which he himself wrote, because it contains the admission that he was only a priest of Toronto Eparchy for two years and by 1980 found himself in need of another “canonical solution.” Finally, his name has magically changed to “Basil” Moran, a name we do not encounter before or after this letter – why might that be? His explanation that Basil is really the same as William, the two being Eastern and Western versions of the same name, is typical of a practiced liar. If you come straight out with the claim and say it with a straight face, most people will not know any better and will not question it. Most people would blush to tell such a whopper or stammer or look away and thus give the game away; it needs practice to do it convincingly. In fact William is German in origin (Wilhelm), whereas Basil is Greek and comes from “Basileus” meaning a king. So that explanation is nonsense. I think it far more probable that “Basil” was a religious name which he assumed on submitting to the Orthodox Church in America (rather like “Dimitri” Gaines). That would also explain why we don’t see him being called “Basil” before or after, because he wasn’t with them before or after.

Finally, to pre-empt a possible objection: there is no doubt that the 1980 letter is authentic. It came from within the Toronto Eparchy archives, has Moran’s correct address on the letterhead (Hicksville, NY) and nobody yet has so much as suggested that it is inauthentic so far, despite it having been the subject of much discussion. On the contrary, Moran has come up with a complicated and improbable-sounding explanation for its existence, which explanation has at least the merit of showing that he accepts that it is genuine. Finally, once again, I suspect that the same typewriter was used as mentioned above, though I could be mistaken. I think I detect some similarities, though only slight: perhaps it was typed a few years earlier than the fake letter and the fake consecration certificate, when the keys were not quite so worn out, though it is only a suspicion and I could be wrong about that Again, a forensic insurance fraud specialist ought to be able to tell us.

I suspect it is far more likely that Moran, having been ordained a priest under who-knows-what conditions by Nicholas Ilnyicki (about whom we also know alarmingly little), was accepted into Toronto Eparchy for a trial period of two years. The two years ran out, the Toronto Eparchy did not wish to renew his credentials (who knows why?) and so he continued as a vagus priest of some sort. If we don’t know for sure, one reason for that is that Ambrose Moran has been less than candid and cannot be relied on to tell the truth. This would explain the remarkable but undeniable fact that all the unmistakably Catholic pictures are from this narrow two-year period, whereas there are comparatively few pictures from the three decades afterwards; it would also explain why even the pictures which do exist from those later decades leave something to be desired.


Recommendations

For anyone who is not yet satisfied with the character and status of Ambrose Moran, to say nothing of his reliability and honesty, the following lines of enquiry might help to satisfy any remaining doubt.

“Dimitri” Gaines. Find out all that can be learned about this man. Not nearly enough is known about him. His role in this alone is enough to sink Ambrose’s incredible story and yet we know virtually nothing about him. It goes without saying that any new information will need to be discovered without reference to Ambrose, since he is not trustworthy and cannot be relied on to tell the truth.

Nicholas Ilnyicki. Likewise, we don’t know nearly enough about him. He made William Moran a priest and it was he, as bishop, together with the two priests, Fr. Ropke and Fr. Moran, who approached the Toronto Eparchy, which is what gave Fr. Moran a brief two-year period as a Catholic priest in good standing. Find out more about him.

Forensic Docuмent Analysis. Find a company which works in the insurance fraud industry and give them a pile of docuмents, as many docuмents relating to Ambrose and those connected to his incredible story as you can. Include everything. Don’t tell the company what anything is or why, tell them as little as possible, just ask them to compare and contrast. And then take the results seriously.

Police Reports. There are an alarming number of these from a relatively small part of the world and a relatively short period of time. Given that before moving to Colorado, Moran lived in New York, I would search around for similar Police reports from his old haunts: Hicksville, East Islip, Passaic, and so forth. My instinct tells me that people don’t change their ways easily and someone who is capable of this sort of fraud, several times in succession, sometimes even overlapping, in one place (Colorado) is a person who will have done it elsewhere too. The stuff about inviting young men back to his place to get drunk and stay the night is also troubling, as is the testimony of more than one of them that he creeped them out, that he hugged them too long or too hard “until it felt weird,” that they thought “he wanted to get me drunk and probably touch me,” “my Mum said she thought he was a child molester,” and all the rest. Check if this has happened anywhere else. There may be nothing in it, but equally there may be and it would help explain one or two things. The Colorado Police reports also make frequent mention of a Zelda Michaels – who is she? They say more than once that Ambrose belonged to “Pochrov Ministries” – what is that? Does anyone have any idea? Follow up what is in the reports.
Character Witnesses. One of the most unusual things is the way that we are forced to rely almost entirely on docuмents. Where are the people who remember him, who knew him? A Resistance priest who had to prove that he was ordained by the SSPX in the 1990s would be able to find people who remembered. I’m sure the same is true of a priest ordained in the 80s or 70s. Why can’t we find people who remember Ambrose Moran? Yes, the mid-70s was a long time ago. But there must still be some people from that era. My own parents were married around that time, I’m sure I could find a few people who knew them or even who were at the wedding if I really needed to. It isn’t that long ago. And what about people who knew him in the 1980s or 1990s or early 2000s?

In the meantime, I expect that many people will feel, as I do, that there is really no need for yet more time to be spent on research into the man, that we have more than enough evidence of lying and forging general dishonesty, and that in any case any further research into so clearly untruthful and unreliable a man would be at best a fruitless, wasted effort and at worst might even become an unnecessary temptation. We will be keeping our distance and having nothing more to do with this man. Given that there are so many outstanding questions and so many problems with his story, given that Ambrose himself persists in insisting on the truth of things which are obviously false (even today, for example, he refers to himself as “His Beatitude” despite the fact that there is no evidence whatever of his ever having had any connection to Cardinal Slipyj, much less that he was appointed his successor, and a good deal of evidence to the contrary!), given everything that is at stake, nobody involved in the Resistance should have anything more to do with him. Perhaps further enquiries would turn up something extraordinary which would vindicate him and put all of this to rest, but I very much doubt it.

Having studied as much of the evidence as I have been able, it is my considered opinion that “Metropolitan Archbishop” Ambrose is a fake and a liar. He is what we over here would call a “Walter Mitty,” he inhabits a fantasy world of his own making which has no connection to reality. That wouldn’t matter a great deal were it not for the fact that he is now being spoken of in connection with the Resistance. Furthermore, I cannot help remarking that whenever he shows up, the fruits are bad. They were bad briefly in late 2015 and they are bad now. The announcement by Frs. Pfeiffer and Hewko that they were not working with him in late 2015 heralded a period of growth and vitality in the Resistance which lasted through 2016 and 2017. That is no longer the case, and one reason is that instead of talking about what is going on in the SSPX, in Rome with the Ecclesia Dei Commission or any of the other pressing issues of the day, we are being forced to waste our time and resources on a man so little deserving of the very great amount of attention he has received. Let this be the end of it. As someone recently said:
“This nonsense has to stop! So be it.”

 Greg Taylor

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APPENDIX A

“His Beatitude, Archbishop Metropolitan” Ambrose “excommunicates” a Catholic layman by name during the sermon:
“There are people who have slandered me and my episcopate and this is a very serious matter. … There is a character out there by the name of Tony La Rosa. And he is attacking our [sic] episcopate … And I’m here to tell you that I am an Archbishop and a Metropolitan and I am the authority in the Catholic Church at this time, and you are self-condemned, Mr. La Rosa. If you were in Holy Orders I would declare you deposed, defrocked. And also you are excommunicated from the Catholic Church because of your pride and rebelliousness. … So, as a hierarch, I must declare, rule, announce, judge, that Tony La Rosa is in a state of excommunication. And I warn some of the priests that if they continue their comments and nasty behaviour, they will be deposed and excommunicated. Now you may say that I don’t have the authority to do that. I have the power to bind and to loose by virtue of the fact that I am a bishop. And I’m going to exercise that authority and jurisdiction by announcing the fact that you, tony La Rosa, have excommunicated yourself. And some of these priests soon, it will be announced that they are deposed and excommunicated. And if you want to take the chance of saying: ‘Oh that’s not true, we don’t accept that,’ – that’s fine, do that. And keep arguing that in hell. Because you will appear before the dread judgement seat of Christ, unless you repent you will appear there already condemned. This nonsense has to stop. So be it.”
Sermon for Epiphany, available here:






APPENDIX B

The only picture purporting to show Moran and Cardinal Slipyj together. Note the caption in Moran’s own hand:

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APPENDIX C

The only picture purporting to show Moran and Cardinal Cooke together. Again, note the caption in Moran’s own hand attesting to its supposed authenticity:

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APPENDIX D
The only picture purporting to show Moran and Pope John Paul II together (this is a poor quality copy of the original in which the forgery is far more obvious) :

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APPENDIX E

A genuine letter from Bishop Isidore Borecky to Fr. William Moran, Feb. 1975. (Note the caption added beneath the letter in Moran’s handwriting with the spurious claim that he was “a priest of the Archeparchy of Lviv” in 1974 and was then “put on loan” to Toronto Eparchy by Cardinal Slipyj in 1975) :

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APPENDIX F
A forged letter purporting to come from Isidore Borecky to “Archbishop Metropolitan” Ambrose Moran, 1976:

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APPENDIX G
A genuine letter from Fr. “Basil” Moran to Bishop Borecky (“I have submitted” to the Orthodox Church), 1980:

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APPENDIX H

A forged certificate of consecration purportedly signed by Cardinal Slipyj in 1976 and attesting to Moran’s episcopal consecration by him in Rome in that year:

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APPENDIX I
The same certificate shown on display at Moran’s home in 2015, the photograph of which is captioned in Moran’s own hand:

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APPENDIX J
Genuine pictures. Moran (as Archbishop) and Gaines (as arch-priest, in blue, standing behind) at a liturgical function in the 1980s or 90s. Note the make-shift light fixture, prefab style walls and tin roof in the background (a garage?):

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APPENDIX K

The same two (Moran and Gaines) outside, after the ceremony:

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APPENDIX L

Genuine picture: an example of Gaines and Moran not vested. Note that Moran clearly has the insignia of a bishop, Gaines does not (no crozier, no ring), and whereas Moran has a bishop’s panaghia, Gaines wears the small Greek cross of an archimandrite or arch-priest:

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APPENDIX M

Another forged picture. Ambrose Moran (centre) and Archbishop Hrihorij (”Gregory,” right) are two separate parts of this composite – the picture of the latter superimposed onto a picture of the former. In the original, which we have seen, this fact is far more obvious. This picture, like all the previous ones, was obtained from Moran himself:

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Below is a screenshot of Moran’s now defunct website. Note the same picture, doctored in a slightly different way:

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APPENDIX N - Did Ambrose Moran join the ‘Genuine Orthodox Church of America’ in 2007?

The Genuine Orthodox Church of America (GOCA) claim that he did. He claims that he did not, and that he has always and only ever been Catholic. He claims that what really happened is that he went there to receive Archbishop Gregory (head of the GOCA) into the Catholic Church. The evidence seems strongly to suggest that Archbishop Gregory and the GOCA are telling the truth.

1. Archbishop Gregory is by all accounts a man of firm convictions and violently anti-Catholic. Both Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko, having spoken to him, attest to that. Given which, it would seem prima facie that he would not want to be received into the Catholic Church and would not do anything to give anyone that impression.

2. Archbishop Gregory’s claim that Ambrose Moran had joined GOCA dates back to at least late 2007 and was made publicly on his website. And yet Ambrose, having joined GOCA in 2007, stayed with them well into 2008, June or July if I am not mistaken. I am not aware of any evidence of him publicly disputing Archbishop Gregory’s claim anywhere between 2007 and 2015.

3. Moran was received into the GOCA in mid-November 2007. He and Archbishop Gregory together performed the episcopal consecration of Bishop John in January 2008. Was Bishop John also supposed to have wished to become a Catholic? Moran’s having assisted Gregory in consecrating Bishop John for the GOCA (a man who had already been a GOCA priest and who is still to this day a GOCA Bishop) is not consistent with his story that he was really the one who received Gregory. Likewise, his having continued to live with the GOCA in Colorado for several months afterwards, until the summer of 2008, seems to me to be somehow inconsistent with the claim that he thought he was receiving them (or had received them) into the Catholic Church, not least because during all that time that he was living there, the GOCA’s own public website claimed the exact opposite, and yet he continued to live there.

4. It has been pointed out that there exist people on forums and blogs on the internet who say that Archbishop Gregory is a liar, that the GOCA cannot be trusted, and similar such things. Very well. Those people may or may not be right, but I would observe the following:

a. Ambrose Moran is without question a liar, as I believe is demonstrated above.

b. I strongly suspect that many of these online detractors have an interest in portraying GOCA and Archbishop Gregory in a negative light, they being mainstream Orthodox and he being the equivalent of the SSPX or Resistance in Orthodox terms. Imagine reading what Novus Ordo Catholics would have to say in online forums or blogs about the SSPX or the Resistance. From what I can see, Archbishop Gregory spends his time condemning all mainstream Orthodox bishops for “the heresy of ecuмenism”. He doesn’t think too highly of the mainstream Orthodox: the feeling is, I suspect, mutual. There is no love lost there.

c. Even if it were true that Archbishop Gregory is a liar and cannot be trusted, it is still perfectly possible that he is a liar who happens to be telling the truth about this one event.

d. The evidence regarding the reception of Moran into the GOCA, circuмstantial and photographic, does appear to support Gregory’s version of events and to contradict Moran’s, as we shall continue to see.


5. Take another look at the Police Report from Salida Police Department, Colorado, specifically of the interview which took place at the Police station between the Police Sergeant conducting the investigation and a lady by the name of Zelda Michaels. Here are the interesting parts:

“During the interview, Michaels described herself as an honest, hard-working woman who [had] worked for the town of Islip, Long Island, New York. […] Michaels said she is the secretary/treasurer for Archbishop Ambrose’s ministry. […] Michaels said that Archbishop Ambrose became a close friend of hers and even lived in her home in New York for a time until he was sent by his church to Buena Vista, Colorado to assist in the consecration of a bishop at the Dormition Skete monastery.”


East Islip is of course where Moran lived until 2007 and Dormition Skete in Colorado is the headquarters of the GOCA. Notice how Michaels says that she is Ambrose Moran’s secretary in his ministry; notice also the reason she gives for Moran having moved from Long Island to Colorado: to perform the consecration for the GOCA at Dormition Skete. There is no mention of receiving the GOCA into the Catholic Church. Notice also that he was sent “by his church” – a curious turn of phrase for someone who was always and only Catholic. Her description of herself as Ambrose Moran’s secretary is corroborated by the other Police reports and interviews with other people.

6. The following picture was taken in late 2007 at what Archbishop Gregory and the GOCA claim was the reception of Moran into their Church, and what Moran claims was really the other way around. Moran is the one standing on the left, Gregory on the right. Let us look carefully at the picture and notice the difference between the two men:

  • Gregory is stood in the sanctuary facing down the church, Moran is stood outside the sanctuary facing in.
  • Moran’s head is bare, whereas Gregory is mitred.
  • Gregory is standing higher up, on the steps, Moran lower down, on the floor of the Church.
  • Moran is the one signing the clipboard, not Gregory.
  • Moran is not wearing his episcopal ring.


Perhaps it will be objected that they must surely both have signed the clipboard – then where is the picture of Gregory signing it and why, as far as we know, did only one of them sign it during the ceremony? Furthermore, the absence of the episcopal ring is very telling, a ring being one of few differences between how an Eastern-Rite Catholic and an Orthodox bishop dress. In all the other photos of Moran as a bishop he is wearing it. But here he is not – why? All of these details are small but important – they are all consistent with what Archbishop Gregory says.

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7. The three following pictures are from the episcopal consecration of Bishop John by Archbishop Gregory and Ambrose Moran in early 2008. Notice that two months after he first joined GOCA (or ‘received them into the Catholic Church,’ depending on which version you wish to believe), Moran’s episcopal ring is still missing. Does this suggest a man who was only and always Catholic? The missing ring is a small detail but an important one, because, when wearing vestments, the episcopal ring is the only distinguishing mark of an Easter Rite bishop who is Catholic and one who is Orthodox.

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8. Conclusion.
The evidence, photographic, docuмentary and circuмstantial, suggests that Archbishop Gregory is telling the truth, that Ambrose Moran did join the GOCA in 2007. Letters and signed declarations exist on the internet avowing schismatic Orthodoxy as the true Faith and anathematising the mainstream Orthodox for the heresy of ecuмenism, signed by Moran on his reception by Gregory into the GOCA. Examining these docuмents as evidence in themselves would be fruitless since Moran is able simply to claim that they are fabrications, lies invented by Gregory, and that he never signed them, whereas Gregory claims that they are genuine and that Moran did sign them. Taken on their own, therefore, they do not get us anywhere. Taken against a background of the other evidence mentioned above, they make far more sense and are in all likelihood genuine. Having examined them myself, I cannot find any of the tell-tale signs of forgery present in some of Moran’s alleged docuмents or photographs.
It seems to me more than likely that 2007 was in some ways a repeat of 1980: Moran, who had been hitherto ‘canonically homeless,’ found himself a home in a small offshoot of the schismatic Orthodox Church. He did not last there very long, just as he has did not last very long with the ‘Orthodox Church in America’ or with Holy Protection Cathedral in Chicago or indeed even with Toronto Eparchy. His latest intended ‘home’ is the Resistance, and in order to make himself acceptable to these Catholics, he has been telling lies to try to cover up his involvement with the schismatic Orthodox, including his having joined GOCA in 2007.

It is a serious thing to accuse another publicly of being a liar and one should avoid doing so without serious grounds and without there being a serious necessity which requires you to do so in the interests of the common good. Having tried to give Ambrose Moran the benefit of the doubt, having studied the evidence as carefully as possible, and having given the matter quite a lot of time to turn over in my mind so as not to jump to conclusions, I find myself led again and again to the inescapable conclusion that Moran is indeed a liar. In fairness and justice, the same benefit of the doubt ought equally to apply to Archbishop Gregory of Colorado, who also cannot be called a liar without serious evidence and a serious need. From everything I have seen regarding this episode, Archbishop Gregory appears, at least in this instance, to be an honest man who has told the truth.


 
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Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: JmJ2cents on January 22, 2019, 01:20:02 AM
Sadly, this isn't the first time he "dissociates" with Moran so that people will not leave him.  I'm looking forward to seeing Tony La Rosa's move.  
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: St Paul on January 22, 2019, 10:42:03 AM
Sadly, this isn't the first time he "dissociates" with Moran so that people will not leave him.  I'm looking forward to seeing Tony La Rosa's move.  
http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2019/01/22/letter-of-fr-joseph-pfeiffer-to-ambrose-moran/
"After shoving Ambrose Moran down on our throats as a true Catholic bishop over and over again publicly and through countless hours of private discussions, this is the statement we get from Fr. Pfeiffer?  There is one thought that came to my mind after reading it:
 
PATHETIC!"
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Croixalist on January 22, 2019, 02:17:31 PM
Most of that info was available in the fall of 2015... Ambrose is still there, Pablo is still there, Fr. Hewko is still there, maybe they were made to cluster together after all. Fr. Poisson has the best shot at cutting ties as the newest recruit while he still isn't as heavily invested. I hope he makes a move and soon!
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: JmJ2cents on January 22, 2019, 03:13:57 PM
Most of that info was available in the fall of 2015... Ambrose is still there, Pablo is still there, Fr. Hewko is still there, maybe they were made to cluster together after all. Fr. Poisson has the best shot at cutting ties as the newest recruit while he still isn't as heavily invested. I hope he makes a move and soon!
Does anyone know much about Fr. Poisson?  His background? Why he was released from the FSSP?  I think anyone should investigate his story because in these days there is too many unknown and they can come back to burn you.  
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Seraphina on January 22, 2019, 03:54:07 PM
Good points. Fr. Hewko has been complicit in many evils taking place at Fr. Pfeiffer's Boston, KY HQ.

I've mentioned before, that the faithful (especially women) are often fooled by outward expressions and mannerisms of piety by priests. Men look deeper. God looks deeper still.

For example, Fr. Timothy Svea (Institute of Christ the King) back in the 1990s had dozens of Trads (again, mostly women) gushing about his piety. He was outwardly very pious. More soft-spoken, didn't joke during his sermons like Fr. Brian Bovee (the other priest posted to the Institute's Rockford, IL location), he was very reverent during the celebration of Mass, had excellent custody of the eyes, talked a good talk about the Faith, etc.


Moral of the story: Apparent piety does NOT equal true holiness.
For some reason, more priests than not seem to have groups of gaga-eyed women who attach themselves to them.  This is unlike St. Padre Pio who CHOSE his "daughters." Both Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko attract the former and do little or nothing to establish proper boundaries.  Let's face it, priests should limit themselves to certain relationships with females.  Being a confessor or spiritual advisor is fine.  If the priest requests it, women may serve with traditionally domestic tasks, cleaning, cooking, secretarial, seamstress---all fine.  The priest should NOT be spending his social time amongst women, unless they are his family members, ie. mother, sisters, aunts, grandmothers, etc.  Inviting Fr. to eat out now and then should be done by couples, all males, or a small mixed group of both sexes.  
Having spent time at OLMC, I saw that boundaries were regularly violated, and not just by the priests.  Pablo was a prime offender, foist in himself upon women, especially if not accompanied by a husband  father, or brother.  Neither Fr. Pfeiffer nor Fr. Hewko was willing to put a stop to this, even when the women requested it.  
Although Fr. Hewko has the ability to attract boys and youths to the Faith, his judgment with them during the summer camps was often irresponsible.  Numerous parents questioned and sometimes withdrew their boys from his charge as a result.  The errors in judgment would have been avoided had Fr. Hewko been answerable to a superior such as a much older priest or a bishop.  Instead, he was his own superior because whatever he did was fine with Fr. Pfeiffer, who is also in desperate need of a real superior.  
Let's face it, everyone needs a superior of some sort.  There is a lot of deprogramming needed for anyone who was truly attached to Boston after 2014.  Something is amiss with anyone attracted to it to the point of tolerating being used and abused.  A martyrdom complex?  
I sincerely pray that Fr. Hewko disentangles himself.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Ladislaus on January 22, 2019, 03:58:37 PM
When I was at STAS, an elderly pre-Vatican II priest visited us, and his advice was never to get too friendly with ANY of the people ... much less women.

Sometimes you see Traditional priests follow the V2 mentality of trying to be the lay people's best friend, playing sports with them, having drinks with them, etc.  It's inevitable that they lose a certain amount of respect for them when they do this.  When I need to go to Confession, I want to go to my spiritual director and not to my drinking buddy.

In addition, if you hang out more with some lay people than others, this can create resentment and suspicions of favoritism.

Priests should socialize only with other priests.
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Seraphina on January 22, 2019, 04:31:12 PM
"Bp." Ambrose is "excommunicating" people?  Isn't this like being "fired" by someone for you worked?   ie. My sister's supervisor, Mr. Davies, could callet me up and fire me.  He could put it on line, post it on a billboard in Times Square, but it means nothing since I never worked under him.  It does not matter that Mr. Davies holds various advanced degrees in business and finance, is "higher" in his field than I in mine.  So with "Bp." Ambrose.  No, he has not the authority to excommunicate anyone not under his jurisdiction!  

Suppose the bishop of, say, Nova Scotia, read my posts, decided I wasn't adhering to the Catholic religion, and saw also, that I attended Mass in Nova Scotia twice, while vacationing with my family as a seven year old in 1967.  On that basis, can he excommunicate me even if he heard I took a position against the doctrine of the Faith?  No, of course not!  That's quite audacious of him to tell a layman that he'll burn in Hell for refusing his "authority."  In fact, it's an abuse of authority, if he possesses any at all! 

As a Protestant, I was once "excommunicated" from a "church" to which I didn't belong; I only attended for about a year before leaving because of doctrinal issues.  It was even read out loud at a service that I was excommunicated and none of the church members were to have contact with me.  When I heard the news, I got a good laugh out of it.  Obviously, the church member who told me was also excommunicated for having contacted me!  

Boston becomes more ridiculous every day.  
Title: Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
Post by: Seraphina on January 22, 2019, 04:36:26 PM
When I need to go to Confession, I want to go to my spiritual director and not to my drinking buddy.
This!!! :applause: