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Offline Mr G

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Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2019, 12:44:14 PM »
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  • Msgr Perez and Cannon Hesse were good friends- kind of in the same boat. Both had Conciliar ordinations- don't know about conditional ordinations for either of them.
    If I recall Fr. Hesse correctly, Fr. Perez had a Traditional Ordination by a new-rite consecrated bishop, whereas Fr. Hess had a new-rite ordination with an old-rite consecrated bishop. Three SSPX bishops (Tissier, Williamson and Fellay) have stated at various times that both these priests are valid and do not need to be re-ordained. Please check with Fr. Perez for details.


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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #46 on: January 17, 2019, 07:42:56 PM »
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  • Hello. I have been reading these things about Fr. Hewko and OLMC and what I would like to see are some actual quotes, photos, eye witness accounts about just what is specifically wrong with OLMC.

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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #47 on: January 17, 2019, 07:57:11 PM »
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  • Lady in Waiting,

    Whether you're sincerely that ignorant, or just being intentionally obtuse, I don't have time to go back to square one with you. And I don't have patience to deal with someone who acts as if CathInfo started yesterday and the information just isn't available. Sorry, we're not going to do all your thinking or homework for you.

    The evidence is all over the place. Just use the CathInfo "search" function.

    But don't kid yourself -- this couldn't possibly be rumor, error, or misunderstanding. The evidence against Fr. Pfeiffer is legion, convincing, public, and goes back many years. And the number of witnesses (including myself) number in the hundreds.

    No, we're not all making some terrible mistake that for some reason none of us can see, until YOU came along -- the chosen one! 
    Ah, we just needed a little honest boy to have the insight, honesty, and guts to say that the Emperor has no clothes on after all, and everybody can start clapping!

    I encourage you to open your eyes and wake up to the reality of the situation.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #48 on: January 17, 2019, 07:57:57 PM »
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  • I’d you do a search on this site for “Pfeiffer” or “Pablo” you’ll find lots of info.  

    Their sermons online might be mostly orthodox but the problems are related to their property and seminary.  They’ve also been supporting a fake bishop and housing some priests who’ve been involved in scandals.  This last part is the worst problem, in my opinion, and it’s easily verifiable.  

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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #49 on: January 17, 2019, 08:03:07 PM »
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  • Hello. I have been reading these things about Fr. Hewko and OLMC and what I would like to see are some actual quotes, photos, eye witness accounts about just what is specifically wrong with OLMC.
    There are 4+ years of Fr. Pfeiffer scandals docuмented in discussions on this site. And, as "St Paul" pointed out, it's certainly not limited to just one topic. You'll need to focus your inquiry by a large degree if you want an answer to this question.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #50 on: January 17, 2019, 08:05:05 PM »
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  • They’ve also been supporting a fake bishop and housing some priests who’ve been involved in scandals.  This last part is the worst problem, in my opinion, and it’s easily verifiable.  
    It's almost funny how far Pablo himself has fallen down the list in terms of the "worst problem" with OLMC. The pile is stacking so high that Pablo is almost an afterthought.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #51 on: January 17, 2019, 08:08:55 PM »
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  • It's extremely trying to one's patience to have someone come in after a long time and presume to wipe the slate clean, asking the entire forum to go back to square one.

    But here is the real problem with that:

    If one considers all the past posts on CI as so much rumor and fluff, such that they "don't count", then why not just leave? If one doesn't believe thousands of posts over the past several years filled with evidence and reason, posted by devout Traditional Catholics everywhere, including many first-hand witnesses, then such a person is not going to believe some all-new post I waste several hours typing up from scratch.

    Lady in Waiting had better take the hint and do more learning/reading/research and less "teaching" before she's equipped to do so. Especially when that "teaching" involves a thinly veiled slap on the face against half the CathInfo membership.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #52 on: January 17, 2019, 09:59:13 PM »
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  • Thanks to people like LiW, there will always be support for Pfeifferville. Mountains of evidence don't matter as much as the ability to tell people what they want to hear. Maybe the draw also comes from being validated in a small exclusive community. I keep trying to come up with reasons why but at a certain point I can't trace the desire to be part of the OLMC cult. As evidenced by this thread alone, there are long time forum members here who still feel the need to defend these guys. It's like some strange kind of spiritual flypaper over there. 
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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #53 on: January 18, 2019, 05:28:47 AM »
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  • Even though he's gone back and forth with Pfeifferville, Tony La Rosa has continued to add to the list of deceptions authored by Moran. Tony was one of the more diehard supporters and still would be had it not been for Ambrose so, keep that in mind. Still, this is useful to further illustrate the laundry list of problems with Moran.  

    http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2018_10_07_THE_PROBLEM_WITH_AMBROSE_MORAN_Quebec_Resistance.pdf

    Here's a yearbook photo of Ambrose a year before his "ordination."

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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #54 on: January 18, 2019, 06:01:43 AM »
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  • Looking back on his website, I didn't realize how much he antagonized Matthew directly. My apologies, I have no desire to pile on.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #55 on: January 18, 2019, 12:43:25 PM »
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  • Hello. I have been reading these things about Fr. Hewko and OLMC and what I would like to see are some actual quotes, photos, eye witness accounts about just what is specifically wrong with OLMC.

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    For actual quotes, look for Fr. Hewko's letter announcing his intention to leave OLMC because of "Bishop" Moran. (It should be at the beginning of this topic thread on P.1) Then there is the letter from Fr. Raphel O.SB.
    Then for another eye-witness account, look for Fr. Voight's letter describing what happened at his time at OLMC and why he had to leave.
    Then for more quotes and eye-wittiness accounts look for the announcement from the various chapel coordinators that announced that their chapel will no longer invite the priests from OLMC.
    With more searching you will see some other eye-witness accounts of people who stayed at the OLMC compound.


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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #56 on: January 18, 2019, 01:40:28 PM »
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  • Fr. Hewko is at OLMC involved in the next two weeks with examination time with the seminarians there!  OLMC appears to be putting along at its usual ordinary pace with no problems.

    There are no specific facts about Fr. Hewko or Fr. Pfieffer on your site that I can find.  I simply support those who conform to Trent, and Archbishop Lefebvre, match apples with apples and oranges with oranges.

    I asked a friend what he knew about "forums" and he informed inexperienced me that often they are run by people who just want their own point of view supported, they create a "sound chamber" attracting those who do not want to use higher intelligence *snip*


    There is really no excuse not being able to find information on the subject here! Facts are they have allowed one very worldly layman thug to manage a seminary and another layman to masquerade as a priest and a bishop all to further an agenda that rejects every other form of traditional Catholicism out there. The evidence is overwhelming. You want to live in the bubble of your choosing while daring other people to burst it for you.

    All things Moran:
    https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?pretty;board=19;topic=42208.0

    Self described "exorcist" Paul Hernandez:
    https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez-6418725

    Fr. Voigt's first hand account of his trials at OLMC:
    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-voigt-responds-to-pablos-accusations/

    A woman who came forward to describe her assault and swindling at the hands of Pablo, Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko:
    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/nightmare-in-boston-lies-swindling-etc-by-pablo/

    Consider the bubble burst. But thank you for confirming Fr. Hewko has no plans to leave!
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #57 on: January 18, 2019, 02:26:10 PM »
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  • My masculine intuition was correct!

    She was a troll after all.

    See how she called it a "sound chamber"? She meant "echo chamber" but was trying to seem "original" not like an average troll. If I wanted to troll or create a 2nd account on a forum just to mess around with people, I could see myself doing something similar, that is: trying to come up with original terms, synonyms for everything, etc. to make sure I don't talk too much like someone else, especially my main persona. 

    But while it's hard to explain how I know, all I know is that it seems incredibly fishy. Like an alien trying to blend in with humans, he's going to say things wrong, and act just weird enough, just often enough to raise suspicions.

    I have to laugh. 


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    I asked a friend what he knew about "forums"
    Oh yeah, that's real natural. Not a troll at all!

    When they go too far in feigning ignorance -- that's always a dead giveaway of trolling.

    And her "Introduce Yourself" story about dancing through the Alpine mountains playing "Sound of Music" was a bit over the top.

    Someone's having a bit of fun with us. Oh well -- I'm cutting off the nonsense now.
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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #58 on: January 19, 2019, 04:49:44 PM »
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  • Well it’s almost the end of the week. We should hear from Fr. Hewko on Monday then?
    "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
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    Re: Fr. Hewko's statement
    « Reply #59 on: January 19, 2019, 05:12:22 PM »
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  • Well it’s almost the end of the week. We should hear from Fr. Hewko on Monday then?
    Perhaps you will hear a Sunday sermon?
    Lord have mercy.