Author Topic: Fr Girouard (Read 16242 times)

Militia Jesu · « **Reply #45 on:** March 29, 2013, 11:54:49 AM »

Quote from: vidi

Fr G is not a red lighter. He told the Langley faithful that it is ok for now to attend the local SSPX Chapel.

How he is going to manage people who ask him if they should still attend SSPX Chapels is a different story that does change the fact he himself is a red lighter.

But I'm afraid the best form of teaching is by example.

wallflower · « **Reply #46 on:** March 29, 2013, 12:35:24 PM »

Quote from: vidi

@ Wallflower -- Well, as you see from the Recusant article, most of the faithful (I will say even more than 50%, perhaps, 75%) are with Fr G.

At this time, we hope that Fr G would still be here. I know that he will not abandon us.

Ok, thank you! I hope so too for your sake :) If there is a ready-made parish, he might as well stay!

wallflower · « **Reply #47 on:** March 29, 2013, 12:48:15 PM »

Quote from: Militia Jesu

Quote from: vidi
Fr G is not a red lighter. He told the Langley faithful that it is ok for now to attend the local SSPX Chapel.

How he is going to manage people who ask him if they should still attend SSPX Chapels is a different story that does change the fact he himself is a red lighter.

But I'm afraid the best form of teaching is by example.

Yes, I think there is a difference between what he does as a priest and where laypersons stand with regards to reception of the sacraments.

It is the responsibility of the priests to stand up strongly against the new orientation but at the same time laypersons can't be going nilly-willy without the sacraments. If they have a resistance chapel nearby, then by all means attend. If they do not, then it gets a bit more complicated.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #48 on:** March 29, 2013, 06:19:09 PM »

Quote from: Lourdes Fatima

Quote from: Seraphim
Forgot to mention that the translation above was taken from The Recusant.

You also forgot to mention Fr. Girouard is a "catastroph seeker, a priest with a horse in this race, a coward giving up the fight -- abandoning the ship", and most importantly a "RED lighter".

Idiot.

Marlelar · « **Reply #49 on:** March 29, 2013, 10:25:07 PM »

Is Fr. Girouard Canadian by birth?

Marsha

PereJoseph · « **Reply #50 on:** March 29, 2013, 10:37:33 PM »

Quote from: Marlelar

Is Fr. Girouard Canadian by birth?

Marsha

Father Girouard comes from an old Acadian French family from Québec.

hugeman · « **Reply #51 on:** March 30, 2013, 05:09:50 PM »

Quote from: Lourdes Fatima

Quote from: Seraphim
Forgot to mention that the translation above was taken from The Recusant.

You also forgot to mention Fr. Girouard is a "catastroph seeker, a priest with a horse in this race, a coward giving up the fight -- abandoning the ship", and most importantly a "RED lighter".

Why would you, dear soul,choose such s name as Lourdes and Fatima , and then so absolutely reject everything They stood for ? Fr , Girouard is far from a catastrophe seeker-- nor is he The image of a coward. A coward sits comfortably in their pew , knowing that their leaders are watering down the faith and slowly brainwashing their charges to accept modernism -- yet refuse to speak out and correct their errant priests-- or even alert the faithful.
By your presence on these kinds of sites, you will not be able to proclaim" Bishop Fellay tricked me", as Fellay tried to charge against Rstzinger.
You have had the opportunity to see clearly the arguments and the facts that Fellay and Rostand have so mightily tried to keep from you. That you cannot recognize the truth is sad. Pray that you get the grace to do so-- soon!
Nor is Father a catastrophe seeker. I seem to recall he made a major effort to warn the powers that be over a year ago:that if they didn't change course, they would be creating a catastrophe!
Www. Sossaveoursspx.com

Lourdes Fatima · « **Reply #52 on:** March 30, 2013, 05:25:19 PM »

Quote from: hugeman

Quote from: Lourdes Fatima
Quote from: Seraphim
Forgot to mention that the translation above was taken from The Recusant.

You also forgot to mention Fr. Girouard is a "catastroph seeker, a priest with a horse in this race, a coward giving up the fight -- abandoning the ship", and most importantly a "RED lighter".

Why would you, dear soul,choose such s name as Lourdes and Fatima , and then so absolutely reject everything They stood for ? Fr , Girouard is far from a catastrophe seeker-- nor is he The image of a coward. A coward sits comfortably in their pew , knowing that their leaders are watering down the faith and slowly brainwashing their charges to accept modernism -- yet refuse to speak out and correct their errant priests-- or even alert the faithful.
By your presence on these kinds of sites, you will not be able to proclaim" Bishop Fellay tricked me", as Fellay tried to charge against Rstzinger.
You have had the opportunity to see clearly the arguments and the facts that Fellay and Rostand have so mightily tried to keep from you. That you cannot recognize the truth is sad. Pray that you get the grace to do so-- soon!
Nor is Father a catastrophe seeker. I seem to recall he made a major effort to warn the powers that be over a year ago:that if they didn't change course, they would be creating a catastrophe!
Www. Sossaveoursspx.com

I agree with you 100%. I was just quoting some names Seraphim used to call those who "abandon" the ship or realizes the yellow light has turned red for their own selves as far as neo-SSPX goes.

Thanks for the prayers though, I can definitely use them. :wink:

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #53 on:** April 01, 2013, 06:43:08 AM »

Quote from: Militia Jesu

Quote from: BrJoseph
http://aveclimmaculee.blogspot.fr/2013/03/m-labbe-girouard-m-labbe-fox-m-labbe.html

Hopefully the Recusant is hard at work.

Beautiful job.

Wow! wow! wow! Oh boy, that was magnificent! Brilliantly done! That's what all of the resistance laity should be encouraging their local priests to do: Speak up boldly cost what it may! Heck with the silence and the false idea of offering oneself as sacrifice in this moment of suffering when in reality they're all acting as cowards.

A little taste of it with a rough translation:

"Saving the SSPX it isn't saving a legal structure whose head is already rallied, but to keep going it alive in the spirit of its founder. Before being a structure, the SSPX is primarily a vocation and a particular mission. Leaving the SSPX is not abandoning the Fraternity. It is instead to free oneself to fully continue the work of Archbishop Lefebvre".

(...)

Q. But if we leave, we leave all the real estate that the faithful have paid in the sweat of their brow, isn't this outrageous?

Yes, it is true that this is grossly unfair that the faithful will suffer and it is a scandal on Menzingen's part. But let us put this drama in light of principle and foundation . Why generous faithful have done this? To do the will of God, for His glory and for the salvation of souls. These generous faithful lose nothing in eternity, God will multiply everything they've given. They don't lose those good deeds, and they are not lost either for all the souls that they have helped save.

In contrast, if one is forbidden to preach the whole truth to keep building and property, we lose sight of what the consequence of the principle and foundation is: all the goods of the earth are only means that helps us to go to heaven. If this is true, to keep the enjoyment of material goods, which are only means, it's not well ordained if you jeopardize the salvation of souls: the physical property becomes an end and is no longer considered as a means. This is a wrong point of view: we do not see things as God sees them, that is to say, as to be used only as a means of salvation, but to never become an end in themselves.

Can't wait for the full translation; meanwhile let's pray so more priests can be faithful to their vocations and their anti-modernist oath; not accepting the sanctions from the Stalin of Menzingen for the simple fact of telling the truth.

I had a hard time seeing the words in red...

"Saving the SSPX it isn't saving a legal structure whose head is already rallied, but to keep going it alive in the spirit of its founder. Before being a structure, the SSPX is primarily a vocation and a particular mission. Leaving the SSPX is not abandoning the Fraternity. It is instead to free oneself to fully continue the work of Archbishop Lefebvre".

(...)

Q. But if we leave, we leave all the real estate that the faithful have paid in the sweat of their brow, isn't this outrageous?

Yes, it is true that this is grossly unfair that the faithful will suffer and it is a scandal on Menzingen's part. But let us put this drama in light of principle and foundation . Why generous faithful have done this? To do the will of God, for His glory and for the salvation of souls. These generous faithful lose nothing in eternity, God will multiply everything they've given. They don't lose those good deeds, and they are not lost either for all the souls that they have helped save.

In contrast, if one is forbidden to preach the whole truth to keep building and property, we lose sight of what the consequence of the principle and foundation is: all the goods of the earth are only means that helps us to go to heaven. If this is true, to keep the enjoyment of material goods, which are only means, it's not well ordained if you jeopardize the salvation of souls: the physical property becomes an end and is no longer considered as a means. This is a wrong point of view: we do not see things as God sees them, that is to say, as to be used only as a means of salvation, but to never become an end in themselves.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #54 on:** April 01, 2013, 12:31:55 PM »

I tried to patch up the snafoo(s) below:

Quote from: hugeman

Quote from: Lourdes Fatima
Quote from: Seraphim
Forgot to mention that the translation above was taken from The Recusant.

You also forgot to mention Fr. Girouard is a "catastroph seeker, a priest with a horse in this race, a coward giving up the fight -- abandoning the ship", and most importantly a "RED lighter".

A catastroph seeker, is he? I can just imagine that's what some of
the passengers who chose to stay on board the Titanic said:

"YOU CATASTROPH SEEKERS -- GETTING INTO THE LIFEBOATS!"

Only, those would be the ones who couldn't spell OR think clearly.

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Why would you, dear soul,choose such s name as Lourdes and Fatima, and then so absolutely reject everything They stood for ? Fr. Girouard is far from a catastrophe seeker-- nor is he The image of a coward.

A coward sits comfortably in their pew, knowing that their leaders are watering down the faith and slowly brainwashing their charges to accept modernism -- yet refuse to speak out and correct their errant priests -- or even to alert the faithful.

By your presence on these kinds of sites, you will not be able to proclaim, "Bishop Fellay tricked me", as Fellay tried to charge against Ratzinger.

That's what you get for reading The Recusant, hugeman! Now you have to go
about your daily activities having retained the faculty of being able to think!

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You have had the opportunity to see clearly the arguments and the facts that Fellay and Rostand have so mightily tried to keep from you. That you cannot recognize the truth is sad. Pray that you get the grace to do so-- soon!

Nor is Www. Sossaveoursspx.com Father a catastrophe seeker. I seem to recall he made a major effort to warn the powers that be over a year ago: that if they didn't change course, they would be creating a catastrophe!

Or, were you trying to say:

Nor is Father a catastrophe seeker. I seem to recall he made a major effort to warn the powers that be over a year ago: that if they didn't change course, they would be creating a catastrophe! Www. Sossaveoursspx.com

...........now I'm a giant smurf? Someone has too much time on his hands............
..wait.......... it's worse than I thought....now I'm the strange, raggedy ann??......
............someone has simply lost it...............................

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #55 on:** April 01, 2013, 12:37:06 PM »

............April Fools'............

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #56 on:** June 08, 2013, 05:24:48 AM »

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It is instructive to review this older thread in light of the newest developments.

Fr. Girouard was previously not able to say everything he wanted to say.

Now that he is free of the oppressive tyranny of the Menzingen-denizens,
he is able to describe for us some of the intrigue that was afoot in those
days. And especially in light of the Branding of the Society, things are
much clearer now.

This is very important for our being able to have a calm, reasoned
discussion with Accordistas who are entirely snowballed with the propaganda.