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    « Reply #2 on: December 11, 2013, 07:06:36 PM »
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    http://www.sacrificium.org/article/branding-and-crusade-10-dec-2013


    I recommend printing this out and giving it to Catholics who might be "on the fence."  They would appreciate seeing this.  Be sure to include the website address:
    http://www.sacrificium.org/article/branding-and-crusade-10-dec-2013

    However, I would caution against giving it to those who are die-hard Fellayites because they will only think you're trying to make "war" with them.  I know a few who think this kind of thing is 'insulting' -- that is, as information that clarifies the truth of our current crisis, this insults their abiding desire to ignore the truth.  

    God bless the great Fr. Patrick Girouard for his dependably solid outlook.  
    This is very refreshing for me to read.  I hope it is for you, too.

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     Branding and Crusade
    (10 Dec 2013)

    Editorial

     

    By Rev. Fr. P. Girouard, Old SSPX

     

    Dear readers,

     

    The latest “Letter to Friends and Benefactors” from Bishop Fellay (#81), dated December 6th and published December 9th, is a new proof that the branding of the Society of St. Pius X has truly transformed this institution to the point where we can rightly call her the “Neo-SSPX”.

     

    Indeed, even if Bishop Fellay laments, and rightly so, the moral and doctrinal decline that afflict the New Church and the modern world in general, he carefully avoids putting the finger on the real wounds and their causes. We will give you a few examples below. All parts in italics are taken from this letter #81.

     

    “It seems to me necessary to mention once more the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI and the election of his successor, Pope Francis.”  What Bishop Fellay should have added here, is that this resignation is a great scandal! Indeed, instead of donning a normal cassock and going into a monastery, like St. Celestine V did, Benedict XVI keeps his name, his white cassock, and remains in the Vatican! At the inauguration of the new statue of St. Michael the Archangel, we were thus able to see two Popes sitting side by side! In practice, this revolution transforms the Pope in a mere CEO of a multinational called the “Catholic Church”. Benedict’s successors will be tempted, and will maybe feel obliged, to follow suit. Benedict XVI has ended his pontificate with another innovation, with a new “dirty trick” against Catholic Tradition! But Bishop Fellay doesn’t seem to notice, and remains silent!

     

     

    “From the first days of his pontificate, the Supreme Pontiff from Argentina has appeared to be very different from anything that we have seen until now.”  This is not what Bishop Fellay was saying two months after the Pope’s election, when his only commentary was that Francis was a man of “deep Faith”! And everybody will agree that Pope Francis is much worse than “different”, he is a walking catastrophe! So, Bishop Fellay, why not say so? Are we not “between ourselves”, among friends and benefactors? Unless some of your friends and benefactors belong to the Novus Ordo Church?

     

    “The recent Apostolic Exhortation Evangelii Gaudium illustrates the difficulty of categorizing an unconventional person who does not hesitate to formulate vehement and repeated critiques of the contemporary world and the modern Church.  He points out many real problems; yet one might wonder about the effectiveness of the methods being extolled and doubt that they can be implemented.  It is not easy to care for a dying patient, and some treatments that are even more revolutionary than the ones already applied for that purpose could very well finish him off!” Once again the branding is playing its part! Instead of condemning firmly and clearly the errors and deficiencies of this Apostolic Exhortation, Bishop Fellay is happy with saying that “one might wonder about the effectiveness of the methods being extolled and doubt that they can be implemented.” His comparison with a dying man who risks to be finished off is nice, but it doesn’t have the impact of a vigorous and thundering condemnation! And instead of saying we face the “difficulty of categorizing” Pope Francis, as he is so much an “unconventional person”, why not say that this Pope is a new Attila, who will leave behind him only the ruins of the last few things that are still standing in the official Church?

     

    “At first glance one could not say that the recent months of the new pontificate have improved this situation.” Instead of this euphemism of the first order, we would have liked a condemnation: the washing of the feet of a Muslim woman on Maundy Thursday; of the World Youth Day in Brazil; of the Bishops dancing the Rock and Roll; of the beach ball on St. Mary Major’s Altar; of the praises given to Cardinals Kasper and Martini; of the red clown nose; of the ecuмenical Day for Peace in Syria; of the letter to the atheistic writer; of the countless kisses to children and women; and so forth and so on.

     

    “Although we continue to hope that an authentic taking of control inspired by God will come one day, the reality of the spiritual sufferings of the Church Militant remains nonetheless.” Yes, and one should not forget the sufferings of those who see the Neo-SSPX lose more and more of its mordancy, and who refuse to accept the official opening of a door to an eventual recognition by Modernist Rome, at the 2012 General Chapter. Considering this new positioning, which remains official to this day, we might be allowed to think that the “authentic taking of control” mentioned above refers to Bishop Fellay’s wish to transform the New Church “from the inside” through a canonical recognition!



    “This will only be aggravated, both by the decrease in the number of priests that is weighing heavily upon Europe and other regions, and also by the formation being given in the seminaries.  The change of pope has in no way modified this disastrous situation, and the reaffirmation of the unfortunate direction of the Second Vatican Council makes us fear that, since the same causes produce the same effects, the worldwide situation of the Catholic Church will remain tragic, and that it is not about to improve.  The canonizations of two popes closely connected with the Council and its implementation are not going to fix it.”  Oh! Come on, come on, Your Excellency! I thought you had previously said that you accepted 95% of the Council; and that Vatican II was enlightening some “hidden” elements of the Revelation; and that Religious Liberty in the Council had a very, very, limited sense; and that what we thought had been errors of the Council were only the common subsequent interpretation of it; and that we should not transform the errors of the Council into super-heresies! Are you today, by any chance, contradicting yourself? Of course not, since you only speak against the “unfortunate direction of the Second Vatican Council”, and not of its errors and heresies! Your letter has all the ingredients to reassure the Pope (and his eventual successor) about your willingness to “cooperate”.

     

    “The development of our Society that we see being accomplished before our eyes is a cause for joy and thanksgiving, and concrete proof that fidelity to the traditional faith and discipline always procures the blessed fruits of grace.” Bishop Fellay doesn’t fail to mention the Neo-SSPX has 253 seminarians (including 43 new ones), and that the new seminary in Virginia is progressing, and that the Society has more than a hundred schools all over the world, and that we don’t have enough priests to meet the needs of the faithful worldwide. Finally he exclaims: “Oh Lord, give us priests!” I would simply tell him that before praying the Lord for more priests, he should stop expelling the ones he already has!

     

    Finally, Bishop Fellay announces to the whole world that he is launching a new Rosary Crusade, the Fourth Crusade! It is normal he should do so from time to time, as he is a General! “In this dramatic context, it seems to us essential to launch a new crusade in the same spirit as the preceding ones, keeping in view the requests and the promises of the Immaculate Heart of Mary as they were expressed at Fatima, but insisting more this time on its universal character. We have to put our whole heart, our whole soul into this new crusade: not just being content with the daily recitation of the Rosary, but carefully carrying out Our Lady’s second request, which is penance.  Prayer and penance.  Penance, understood certainly as the acceptance of certain forms of self-denial, but especially as the very faithful performance of our duties of state.” Here we are! We knew it was coming! But we didn’t wait for it with joy and enthusiasm, but rather with a sense of foreboding, in light of all the evils that followed in the wake of the previous three: the 2007 Motu Proprio which officially relegates the true Mass to the second rank; the 2009 Suspension of the canonical effects, for the four surviving Bishops, of the 1988 Decree of Excommunication; the September 2011 Roman Proposal for a canonical recognition and Personal Prelature, and the negotiations that followed up to June 2012, and especially the disastrous July 2012 General Chapter! So, when Bishop Fellay tells us the new crusade will be done “in the same spirit as the preceding ones”, we are entitled to ask ourselves, with anguish, what will happen to us when it will be over?

     

    Then, after having quoted at length some texts of Archbishop Lefebvre about a crusade for transforming the world by the spirit of sacrifice that comes from the Sacrifice of the Altar, Bishop Fellay gives us some details about his new crusade: “We encourage you therefore to adopt a permanent spirit of crusade, although, because of human considerations, we will officially begin this new Rosary crusade on January 1, 2014, and conclude it on the Feast of Pentecost (June 8, 2014) for the purpose of collecting a spiritual bouquet of five million Rosaries in reparation for the outrages committed against the honor of Our Lady, against her Heart as a Virgin and Mother of God.” So we have gone from a lofty objective of, what? 25 million Rosaries at the 3rd Crusade, to a mere five million this time? What is going on here? Did Bishop Fellay, by any chance, realize that, since the branding of the Society, it has lost some support? Does he fear not to be able to get more than five millions? Is he, maybe, aware that many of the faithful who can’t, for major reasons, leave the chapels and school of the Neo-Society, remain nevertheless faithful to Archbishop Lefebvre’s work, and that they will not anymore follow him in his new endeavors, even if those look pious? And does he include, among the outrages committed against the Immaculate Heart, all the instances when he declared that the gestures of Modernist Rome, in July 2007 and January 2009, were gifts from the Blessed Virgin Mary in answer to the first two Crusades?

     

    My dear readers, as you can see, the situation in the Neo-SSPX, far from getting better, in continually degrading, as it continues to apply the strategy of conciliation and softness resulting from its branding! It is only towards the members, clergy and lay, of the true Society that such strategy is not applied! Therefore, hold on! The battle is going on!

    God bless you!

     
    Fr. Patrick Girouard

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    Fr Girouard - Branding and Crusade (10 Dec 2013)
    « Reply #3 on: December 11, 2013, 07:52:13 PM »
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    "Oh Lord, give us more priests" -- for us to expel when it turns out they can't be liberal enough for us!



    Quote from: the great Fr. Girouard
    [H.E. wrote,] “The development of our Society that we see being accomplished before our eyes is a cause for joy and thanksgiving, and concrete proof that fidelity to the traditional faith and discipline always procures the blessed fruits of grace.” Bishop Fellay doesn’t fail to mention the Neo-SSPX has 253 seminarians (including 43 new ones), and that the new seminary in Virginia is progressing, and that the Society has more than a hundred schools all over the world, and that we don’t have enough priests to meet the needs of the faithful worldwide. Finally he exclaims: “Oh Lord, give us priests!” I would simply tell him that before praying the Lord for more priests, he should stop expelling the ones he already has!


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    « Reply #4 on: December 11, 2013, 08:31:26 PM »
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    "Oh Lord, give us more priests" -- for us to expel when it turns out they can't be liberal enough for us!



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    “The development of our Society that we see being accomplished before our eyes is a cause for joy and thanksgiving, and concrete proof that fidelity to the traditional faith and discipline always procures the blessed fruits of grace.”

    Bishop Fellay doesn’t fail to mention the Neo-SSPX has 253 seminarians (including 43 new ones), and that the new seminary in Virginia is progressing, and that the Society has more than a hundred schools all over the world, and that we don’t have enough priests to meet the needs of the faithful worldwide. Finally he exclaims:
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    “Oh Lord, give us priests!”

    I would simply tell him that before praying the Lord for more priests, he should stop expelling the ones he already has! [/b]


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    Oh Lord, the priests you have given us so far, have too often been inadequately progressive and unwilling to participate with our current agenda of aggiornamento in the unclean spirit of Vatican II, and so, we've had to expel too many and that's why we don't have enough priests to meet the needs of the faithful who call on us, and so we ask you, Lord, to sent us more liberal priests!  


    Oh Lord, you've already sent us enough priests, but they haven't been the kind of priests that we're looking for -- so send us priests who are more liberal this time, if you don't mind!


    Oh Lord send us priests, send us many liberal priests!


    And, by the way, if they're not liberal enough for us, then maybe we'll just have to sign a 'deal' with modernist Rome so then the local bishops will send us all the liberal seminarians we could ever wish for!


    Oh Lord, two can play this game!


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    « Reply #5 on: December 11, 2013, 08:47:13 PM »
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    "...Rosaries in reparation for the outrages committed against the honor of Our Lady, against her Heart as a Virgin and Mother of God.”
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    And does he include, among the outrages committed against the Immaculate Heart, all the instances when he declared that the gestures of Modernist Rome, in July 2007 and January 2009, were gifts from the Blessed Virgin Mary in answer to the first two Crusades?


     :applause:God bless you, Father!
     
    Until His Excellency makes public reparation for this outrageous manipulation of the Mother of God, his efforts are sterile & futile.

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    « Reply #6 on: December 13, 2013, 03:38:32 AM »
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    Trivia question time!  

    What do the dates of July 2007, March 2010, May 2012 and June 2014 have in common?



    What do the dates of  [? 2006/7], March 2009, October 2011 and January 2014 have in common?



    What do these dates and the number 12 million have in common?  



    How does the number 5 million replace the number 12 million in these dates?    



    On which two crusades had the end been set for Pentecost Sunday?



    What was the longest period BETWEEN successive Rosary crusades from 2007 to 2014?  (That is, time from the end of one crusade to the beginning of the next one?)



    How many months was it from the end of the third crusade until the start of the fourth crusade?  --The fourth one starts NEXT MONTH, in January 2014.







    Trivia clock ticking:   :dancing:


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    « Reply #7 on: December 13, 2013, 04:48:44 AM »
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  • If the bulk of priests are inadequately progressive and cannot keep up with Menzingen's vision of the future, outsiders will be employed to drive the Society forward. Seminaries need only train its inmates to be able to read from scripts and the Sunday sermon can be sourced centrally to prevent clerical individualism. The complete SSPX package need not disturb the layman's  weekly life cycle and torpid tranquility with the removal of any pretensions of Catholic militancy. No more of that kind of thing, as Father Ted would say!


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    « Reply #8 on: December 13, 2013, 08:16:36 AM »
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  • Wessex,
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    The complete SSPX package need not disturb the layman's weekly life cycle and torpid tranquility with the removal of any pretensions of Catholic militancy. No more of that kind of thing, as Father Ted would say!


    Cozy Conciliarism with incense and chausible.

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    So we have gone from a lofty objective of, what? 25 million Rosaries at the 3rd Crusade, to a mere five million this time? What is going on here? Did Bishop Fellay, by any chance, realize that, since the branding of the Society, it has lost some support? Does he fear not to be able to get more than five millions? Is he, maybe, aware that many of the faithful who can’t, for major reasons, leave the chapels and school of the Neo-Society, remain nevertheless faithful to Archbishop Lefebvre’s work, and that they will not anymore follow him in his new endeavors, even if those look pious?

    Oh ye of little imagination, Fr. Girouard. Menzingen's propaganda department can overcome any shortfall by fabricating the needed tallies for laying at the feet of Francis.

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    « Reply #10 on: December 17, 2013, 06:40:42 PM »
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    Quote from: I


    Trivia question time!  

    What do the dates of July 2007, March 2010, May 2012 and June 2014 have in common?





    July 2007 was the date of the motu Proprio Summorum Pontificuм, the ostensible "fruit" of the first Crusade.  I was thinking it was the date of the end of the Crusade itself, but I wasn't able to find the start and end dates of the first crusade.

    The other dates, March 2010, May 2012 and June 2014, are the end dates of crusades 2-4.


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    What do the dates of  [? 2006/7], March 2009, October 2011 and January 2014 have in common?



    These would be the START dates of SSPX Rosary crusades 2-4.


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    What do these dates and the number 12 million have in common?  



    12 million was the goal of the 2nd and 3rd crusade, after the result of 1,703,000 from the first crusade, which +F turned in January, 2009, 18 months after Summorum Pontificuм.
     

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    How does the number 5 million replace the number 12 million in these dates?    



    5 million is the new goal of the current crusade that will start officially in January of 2014, whereas the previous two crusades had 12 million as their goal each time. IOW the expectations of +F are less than HALF this time!


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    On which two crusades had the end been set for Pentecost Sunday?



    Apparently Pentecost has proven to be the most successful day to end a Rosary crusade for +F, because he had that date for the end of the 3rd crusade and now has it for the end of the 4th crusade as well.


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    What was the longest period BETWEEN successive Rosary crusades from 2007 to 2014?  (That is, time from the end of one crusade to the beginning of the next one?)



    I can't find the duration of the first crusade.  (Help?!)  The second went on for one year (12 months), from March 2009 to March 2010, which might be the longest (unless the first crusade was longer). The third went from Oct. 2011 to May 2012, a total of 7 months, and the new one is planned to last 5 months and one week, from Jan. 1st, 2014 to June 8th, 2014.


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    How many months was it, from the end of the third crusade until the start of the fourth crusade?  --The fourth one starts NEXT MONTH, in January 2014.


    Previously, there had been 18 months between the second and the third crusades, from the beginning of March 2010 to the beginning of October 2011.

    The third crusade ended on May 27th, 2012, Pentecost Sunday.  Therefore, there was no SSPX Rosary crusade going on, specifically, between the start of June 2012 and the start of January of 2014, a span of 18 months.  It has been during these 18 months that all the trouble has come to light, starting with the turn of the other two bishops before the GC in July, the discovery of the AFD, the April Fifteenth Declaration of 2012 (which +F was trying to hide, and his supporters say he has every right to hide it because it was an internal docuмent not meant for public knowledge), and the expulsion of +W, and most of the other Fathers, including Frs. Chazal and Joe Pfeiffer of the USA and EastAsia (?!), the great Fr. Patrick Girouard of Canada, as well as:

    Dean Fr. Florian Abrahamowicz, of Italy,
    Prior Basilio Meramo, of Colombia,
    Fr. Ernesto Cardozo, of Brazil,
    Fr. Juan Ceriani, of Argentina,    
    Fr. Gabriel Grosso, of Argentina, and
    Fr. Juan Turco, of Argentina,
    All expelled by Fellay from his ExSPX for criticism of a sellout.

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    (I apologize if my list is not up to date.)

    I find it alarming that even to this day, when you recite this list to Fellayites, they recoil with horror, flinch, squint, shake their head and run away.  It's a most odd behavior.  They seem to be INVINCIBLY IGNORANT of this information, such that when they hear it they CANNOT STAND hearing it.  It upsets everything in their psyche or something like that.




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    And does he include, among the outrages committed against the Immaculate Heart, all the instances when he declared that the gestures of Modernist Rome, in July 2007 and January 2009, were [b]gifts from the Blessed Virgin Mary in answer to the first two Crusades?[/b]

     

    Does +Fellay include among the outrages committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary all these impudent expulsions of good and faithful priests which HE HIMSELF has committed?


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    « Reply #11 on: December 17, 2013, 07:07:38 PM »
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    And does he include, among the outrages committed against the Immaculate Heart, all the instances when he declared that the gestures of Modernist Rome, in July 2007 and January 2009, were gifts from the Blessed Virgin Mary in answer to the first two Crusades?



    Does +Fellay include among the outrages committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary all these impudent expulsions of good and faithful priests which HE HIMSELF has committed?



    Fr. Girouard is not going to complain about his expulsion.  He treasures his expulsion. It is left up to us, the laity, and to such astute representatives we have as Ed. from TheRecusant, to raise our voices against the unjust and tyrannical expulsions which see, because if we don't, then God will raise up voices from out of the rocks.  



    The Rocks Will Cry Out.



    Do you want to see what that's like?  Ask anyone who was in southwest Indonesia a couple of years back when the sea cried out with a tsunami, what it's like when nature raises its voice.  

    Ask the surviving victims of the great typhoon in the Philippines the other day.  

    If only we could ask the victims who did not survive.  Maybe their testimony would be more compelling.

    I knew a paleontologist who told me that the groaning noise I heard echoing off the hills in the San Fernando Valley immediately before the Northridge Earthquake of 1994 is what his colleagues say is known as THE VOICE OF GOD.  

    And he was an atheist -- and a Jєω.


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