Author Topic: Fr. de Mrode resigns (Read 4755 times)

Adolphus · « **on:** September 04, 2014, 01:45:37 PM »

According to the site France Fidele, official site for the Priestly Union Marcel Lefebvre, Fr. Roland de Mérode has resigned as the Union's coordinator. The Union chose Fr. Bruno OSB to replace him.

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PG · « **Reply #1 on:** September 04, 2014, 02:22:35 PM »

Was Fr. merode non una cuм? Is Fr. Bruno osb non una cuм?

untitled · « **Reply #2 on:** September 04, 2014, 02:30:14 PM »

Br Faure says that he resigned for having too many occupations. It is no problem of "no una cuм" or "una cuм".

PG · « **Reply #3 on:** September 04, 2014, 02:59:16 PM »

Thanks. Can you tell me how things currently are going within the union of Marcel concerning the mixture of una cuм/non una cuм priests? I remember Fr. pfieffer being vocal against it, and talking about preparing a coup for a meeting against the sedevacantist french resistance(no tradcuмenism theme). However, they all got together for a nice photo op. I think this is an interesting dimension, and I want to observe how it develops. I consider the una cuм issue very important.

peterp · « **Reply #4 on:** September 06, 2014, 12:20:00 AM »

Quote from: untitled

Br Faure says that he resigned for having too many occupations. It is no problem of "no una cuм" or "una cuм".

I didn't actually think of that until I read your post, which made me think: hmmm... this, I think, is the achilles heel of the resistance.

Wessex · « **Reply #5 on:** September 06, 2014, 03:55:29 AM »

I think those who want a strictly R & R policy should stay with the SSPX. It continues to maintain that ebb and flow motion with Rome that ABL settled on. So many that were resisting the Society were hoping that Fr. Pfeiffer & Co would drop this contentious issue and proceed without this unnecessary baggage. If not, support will drop away.

JPaul · « **Reply #6 on:** September 06, 2014, 08:10:31 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

I think those who want a strictly R & R policy should stay with the SSPX. It continues to maintain that ebb and flow motion with Rome that ABL settled on. So many that were resisting the Society were hoping that Fr. Pfeiffer & Co would drop this contentious issue and proceed without this unnecessary baggage. If not, support will drop away.

Good point. More of the same is not a good place to start.

PG · « **Reply #7 on:** September 06, 2014, 04:53:11 PM »

Peterp - it is an achilles heel, but without a real pope, why would we not be handicapped?

J.Paul - indeed, more of the same is not a good place to start.

As a pre-54 non una cuм privationist/doubtist, it is worth tuning in

. I might learn something.

Ecclesia Militans · « **Reply #8 on:** September 07, 2014, 06:50:59 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

I think those who want a strictly R & R policy should stay with the SSPX.

No. The neo-SSPX doesn't do much resisting anymore.

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #9 on:** September 07, 2014, 10:11:45 PM »

Drop R and R ( Recognize and Resist )? You mean stop recognizing the Pope? Adopt the sede position?
I began supporting the Resistance because of what I recognized as a cult around Bp. Fellay. His expelling priests for even questioning his intentions with regard to Rome..His autocratic style. His associating with Zionist filth like Max Krah.
I didn't support them because I hoped they would turn sedevacantist...and I don't believe they will...I also don't think the extreme minority in the Church that hold that position is the biggest problem in the Church...Modernism, liberalism and close association ( or making peace with ) with the enemies of Christ and His Social Reign over society-that's problem #1...
It comes from people who have been seduced into believing that the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic plan for society is best ( it just needs a thin veneer of Christianity or at least a tolerance for it )...And there are Americanists in SSPX chapels who share that mentality...Some, granted, are to stone cold stupid to even recognize that they do. I often refer to those people as the "Fox News Catholics " or " flag-waving zombies".....And that brings me to:
We used to ( occasionally ) hear homilies that at least touch on what's going on out in the real world...We don't anymore...And I think the above named group of people are the reason why...Who can blame the priests? They have to give generic homilies...if they talk about current events and swerve away from the neocon ( Jєω approved ) talking points that the Americanists have been programmed to accept they'll probably be disciplined for it....
You see? We're not much different than the superficial, non-militant 1950's Catholics who ( eventually ) got the type of Catholicism that they deserved!

Wessex · « **Reply #10 on:** September 08, 2014, 07:15:01 PM »

There were plenty of expulsions when ABL was alive but for some people he could do no wrong. The recent split is nothing new and was generally to do with the Society's changeable relationship with Rome. Bp. Fellay inherited his powers from ABL and now heads his own cult. We see the same eagerness to obtain recognition from Rome and all the differences would be blown away overnight.

I am not a believer in before GREC the Society was persuing a straight course. For most people the familiar Sunday Mass was all they wanted and the intricacies of (French) history and politics were over their head. The same is true now; the Resistance brings together those who do think about these things whereas a majority choose a quiet life both inside and outside their chapels. In fact they will be somewhat relieved now not to have to choose between church and state!

I am in favour of a new beginning but not one that repeats the mistakes of the past. The R & R formula has grown very tired; Bp. Fellay knows that but he finds himself ending this policy at a time when Rome is harder to recognise, providing proof that there is certainly a vacancy there.

JPaul · « **Reply #11 on:** September 08, 2014, 07:35:04 PM »

Wessex,

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I am in favour of a new beginning but not one that repeats the mistakes of the past. The R & R formula has grown very tired; Bp. Fellay knows that but he finds himself ending this policy at a time when Rome is harder to recognise, providing proof that there is certainly a vacancy there.

This is a sound observation of the objective reality today.

Ecclesia Militans · « **Reply #12 on:** September 09, 2014, 06:28:35 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

The R & R formula has grown very tired;

No. It is the only formula.

claudel · « **Reply #13 on:** September 09, 2014, 07:52:32 AM »

Quote from: Ecclesia Militans

Quote from: Wessex
The R & R formula has grown very tired;

No. It is the only formula.

Seconded. Let the self-appointed popes here at CI concoct all the ecclesial fantasies they want. Sticking to the path indicated by Faith and prayerful trust in Providence, even though that path grows ever rockier, is the only truly Catholic formula.

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #14 on:** September 11, 2014, 08:32:37 PM »

"..they will be somewhat relieved now not to have to choose between Church and state"....By not choosing people like that really have chosen...It's really something: for the most part we never ask these people to DO anything militant for Christ ( aside from praying outside the abortion mills )..We only ask them to think in a militant way and most can't manage that...
A real patriot wants his country to be Catholic...A real Christian doesn't think it's OK to be ruled by the Jєωs...Our Lord didn't refer to them as a " brood of vipers" and the "ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan " for His health..
But what do we do? We get our news from the Jєωs...We let them own our central bank ( NM Rothschild and Sons of London, the Moses Seif bank of Italy, the dual nationals at Goldman Sachs )...We get our entertainment from them. We let them own our politicians, commit acts of false-flag terrorism against us. Go to war to kill their enemies for them...
We not only have a do-nothing religion, we have a say nothing religion...Will we ever have another Cardinal like Cardinal Pie...a bishop like Williamson? If they would/could only preach against usury again, the evil of up-front compounded interest, the associated fraud of private central banking. If they could only preach the Just War Doctrine. The power of the enemy would surely dissipate rather quickly..