Author Topic: Fr. David Thomas refusing Communion to Resistance supporters (Read 11055 times)

Matthew · « **on:** November 12, 2015, 12:39:39 PM »

Fr. David Thomas, stationed at Ridgefield, CT, is now refusing Communion to those supporting the Resistance.

Apparently things are getting REAL bad in Ridgefield. Children are fighting with their peers via text message and e-mail, sometimes the parents are brought into it, and sometimes the priests are brought into it.

It's World War 3 up there.

Anyhow, out of desperation/rage/frustration, at least one priest has sunk to this new low. Fr. David Thomas was ordained in the early 2000's.

Ridgefield, formerly a huge church/priory/school/retreat center, is actually dying! At least as much as such a huge, well-established location CAN die in only 3 years' time.

antibostonken · « **Reply #1 on:** November 12, 2015, 12:43:29 PM »

If it dies, it'll be a cash cow loss for the SSPX.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #2 on:** November 12, 2015, 12:58:49 PM »

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Children are fighting with their peers via text message and e-mail, sometimes the parents are brought into it, and sometimes the priests are brought into it.

I'm having a hard time imagining parents and priests along with children fighting with each other via text message and e-mail.

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Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** November 12, 2015, 01:09:02 PM »

Perhaps the relative wealth of the area is WHY the SSPX is fighting so dirty in this case.

This is the same SSPX chapel whose priest took various children/parents to task for showing up for school with a Fr. Zendejas style* Ash Wednesday cross on their foreheads.

* Fr. Zendejas mixes a bit of water in with the ashes, to make the resulting ash cross more visible and durable.

When pressed by the parents, the priest admitted that he didn't care if they went to the Novus Ordo or indult for Ash Wednesday. Just not Fr. Zendejas. Why not? Because "We don't like him."

This is the kind of cult B.S. that makes me RUN, not walk, as far as I can from the SSPX and everything it stands for (which is not the Faith anymore, obviously).

TKGS · « **Reply #4 on:** November 12, 2015, 01:59:48 PM »

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* Fr. Zendejas mixes a bit of water in with the ashes, to make the resulting ash cross more visible and durable.

I am confused. I thought the ashes were blessed by the priest and holy water is used in the blessing. In fact I'm looking at my missal now which says:

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The priest then sprinkles the ashes thrice with holy water, singing the anthem Aspérges me..., and incenses them thrice.

In the chapel I attend, most of the ashes are damp since there are usually only 20-30 people in attendance.

Was this changed in the 1962 Missal?

Matthew · « **Reply #5 on:** November 12, 2015, 02:49:20 PM »

I'm not an ash expert, but all I know is that I've been many places (all Trad) for Ash Wednesday, and although the ashes left a mark on my forehead, it was a more subtle mark. In fact, usually the priests used ashes that were quite dry. Apparently Fr. Zendejas is taking advantage of the holy water to make a more noticeable cross on the foreheads.

Just like I've seen priests use different amounts of incense for high Mass and Benediction. They are supposed to scoop 3 times -- but I've seen a priest scoop a grain or two in each spoonful, and I've seen priests scoop 3 level or even heaping spoonfuls. I'm actually a fan of the latter :)

richard · « **Reply #6 on:** November 12, 2015, 05:38:10 PM »

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I'm not an ash expert, ...

Neither am I but I have been mistaken for Jack Ash a few times.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #7 on:** November 12, 2015, 06:14:19 PM »

What a sad post. When I read it I would like to just pass it off and ignore it. It is easy to see why those who support the SSPX still to this day ignore everything the resistance says. It is more comfortable to just push it to the back and say it doesn't matter or isn't really a big deal. But for me that would be lying to myself for the comfort of my own conscience, and that is a habit that I have never acquired. Being comfortable isn't really one of my strong points...

AJNC · « **Reply #8 on:** November 12, 2015, 06:39:10 PM »

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Fr. David Thomas, stationed at Ridgefield, CT, is now refusing Communion to those supporting the Resistance.

Apparently things are getting REAL bad in Ridgefield. Children are fighting with their peers via text message and e-mail, sometimes the parents are brought into it, and sometimes the priests are brought into it.

It's World War 3 up there.

Anyhow, out of desperation/rage/frustration, at least one priest has sunk to this new low. Fr. David Thomas was ordained in the early 2000's.

Ridgefield, formerly a huge church/priory/school/retreat center, is actually dying! At least as much as such a huge, well-established location CAN die in only 3 years' time.

Could it be that some of the Resistance people are coming to the Ridgefield chapel to canvas for the Resistance or, even if they are not doing so on the premises they are doing so elsewhere?.
Not all SSPX priests are behaving in such a manner though. Last Monday morning I attended Mass at the local SSPX chapel and a woman who is actively canvassing to draw away the remaining few faithful to the Resistance was also there with her family.
Hardly the Mass was over when the priest rushed out to meet and chat with her, knowing full well her situation.

wallflower · « **Reply #9 on:** November 12, 2015, 07:06:40 PM »

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Fr. David Thomas, stationed at Ridgefield, CT, is now refusing Communion to those supporting the Resistance.

Apparently things are getting REAL bad in Ridgefield. Children are fighting with their peers via text message and e-mail, sometimes the parents are brought into it, and sometimes the priests are brought into it.

It's World War 3 up there.

Anyhow, out of desperation/rage/frustration, at least one priest has sunk to this new low. Fr. David Thomas was ordained in the early 2000's.

Ridgefield, formerly a huge church/priory/school/retreat center, is actually dying! At least as much as such a huge, well-established location CAN die in only 3 years' time.

Could it be that some of the Resistance people are coming to the Ridgefield chapel to canvas for the Resistance or, even if they are not doing so on the premises they are doing so elsewhere?.
Not all SSPX priests are behaving in such a manner though. Last Monday morning I attended Mass at the local SSPX chapel and a woman who is actively canvassing to draw away the remaining few faithful to the Resistance was also there with her family.
Hardly the Mass was over when the priest rushed out to meet and chat with her, knowing full well her situation.

Depending on who they are, some Resistants are obnoxious, so that could be in very poor taste, but NOTHING NEAR a legitimate reason to withhold the Sacraments. The Sacraments aren't pawns for a priest's petty little power trip. This is the same game some FSSP priests play with SSPXers and it is WRONG, a complete abuse of their orders. Fr. Thomas needs a lot of prayer for this.

Matto · « **Reply #10 on:** November 12, 2015, 07:19:41 PM »

If a priest truly believes that those who support the resistance are in a public open schism, then he has a duty to deny them the sacraments. But i do not think the SSPX believes this, I think they are just using a powerful card in a game to force others to support them. To me it seems it is only the resistance supporters who are denied the sacraments. Why? Aren't those who go to the Ecclesia Dei Masses or even the Novus Ordo Mass more deserving of being denied the sacraments? I would believe so.

AJNC · « **Reply #11 on:** November 12, 2015, 07:42:27 PM »

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Quote from: Matthew
Fr. David Thomas, stationed at Ridgefield, CT, is now refusing Communion to those supporting the Resistance.

Apparently things are getting REAL bad in Ridgefield. Children are fighting with their peers via text message and e-mail, sometimes the parents are brought into it, and sometimes the priests are brought into it.

It's World War 3 up there.

Anyhow, out of desperation/rage/frustration, at least one priest has sunk to this new low. Fr. David Thomas was ordained in the early 2000's.

Ridgefield, formerly a huge church/priory/school/retreat center, is actually dying! At least as much as such a huge, well-established location CAN die in only 3 years' time.

Could it be that some of the Resistance people are coming to the Ridgefield chapel to canvas for the Resistance or, even if they are not doing so on the premises they are doing so elsewhere?.
Not all SSPX priests are behaving in such a manner though. Last Monday morning I attended Mass at the local SSPX chapel and a woman who is actively canvassing to draw away the remaining few faithful to the Resistance was also there with her family.
Hardly the Mass was over when the priest rushed out to meet and chat with her, knowing full well her situation.

Depending on who they are, some Resistants are obnoxious, so that could be in very poor taste, but NOTHING NEAR a legitimate reason to withhold the Sacraments. The Sacraments aren't pawns for a priest's petty little power trip. This is the same game some FSSP priests play with SSPXers and it is WRONG, a complete abuse of their orders. Fr. Thomas needs a lot of prayer for this.

Depending on who they are, some Resistants are obnoxious Welcome to India!

My wife and I have virtually been barred from Resistance Masses by some layfolk, including some we introduced Tradition to!

Croixalist · « **Reply #12 on:** November 12, 2015, 07:52:58 PM »

Man, what a mess. Unfortunately, it looks like we've moved into a time where everything has to sifted out at the local level now. I've been fairly fortunate not to have too many problems at my chapel, but I've been around long enough to know it could all change in an instant. My heart goes out to those who are genuinely struggling to get to a Latin Mass without the NO drama.

trento · « **Reply #13 on:** November 13, 2015, 08:52:34 AM »

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Fr. David Thomas, stationed at Ridgefield, CT, is now refusing Communion to those supporting the Resistance.

Apparently things are getting REAL bad in Ridgefield. Children are fighting with their peers via text message and e-mail, sometimes the parents are brought into it, and sometimes the priests are brought into it.

It's World War 3 up there.

Anyhow, out of desperation/rage/frustration, at least one priest has sunk to this new low. Fr. David Thomas was ordained in the early 2000's.

Ridgefield, formerly a huge church/priory/school/retreat center, is actually dying! At least as much as such a huge, well-established location CAN die in only 3 years' time.

Could it be that some of the Resistance people are coming to the Ridgefield chapel to canvas for the Resistance or, even if they are not doing so on the premises they are doing so elsewhere?.
Not all SSPX priests are behaving in such a manner though. Last Monday morning I attended Mass at the local SSPX chapel and a woman who is actively canvassing to draw away the remaining few faithful to the Resistance was also there with her family.
Hardly the Mass was over when the priest rushed out to meet and chat with her, knowing full well her situation.

Depending on who they are, some Resistants are obnoxious, so that could be in very poor taste, but NOTHING NEAR a legitimate reason to withhold the Sacraments. The Sacraments aren't pawns for a priest's petty little power trip. This is the same game some FSSP priests play with SSPXers and it is WRONG, a complete abuse of their orders. Fr. Thomas needs a lot of prayer for this.

Depending on who they are, some Resistants are obnoxious Welcome to India!

My wife and I have virtually been barred from Resistance Masses by some layfolk, including some we introduced Tradition to!

You described exactly what happened elsewhere where a Resistance supporter comes to the SSPX chapel for Mass and the sacraments, but once Mass is over goes outside the chapel and tries to canvass the other chapel-goers to attend Resistance Mass at her home.

MMagdala · « **Reply #14 on:** November 13, 2015, 09:21:50 AM »

Please someone correct my mis-impression. I thought SSPX is Recognize & Resist. Do you mean that there are sects within the SSPX that are "more" resistant than other SSPX'ers?