If I had to speculate I'd say Father Cyprian will do most anything to get his priests for his monastery.
Wouldn't it be better to keep your speculations to yourself and not use them to judge Fr. Cyprian's soul? Basically, you are saying he doesn't care about the good of his monks but only wants to get them ordained. He doesn't care about faith but only wants to use Bp. Fellay or the SSPX for ordinations. Now, wasn't Fr. Cyprian one of the monks who left Le Barroux because of Dom Gerard's compromise with Rome?
It's funny. In this case "If I had to speculate" means "In my opinion. An opinion I am very much displeased with." As can be seen if the whole thing is read clearly. What follows is nonsense! "...You are saying..." A Judgement of MY soul! I've told people before that leaving a post on a computer website is not the best because of the rash judgement it subjects people to (okay, I can hear it already, "sspxbvm, you talk about rash judgement but don't see yourself...." ---typical response from an irrational debater)
Sspxbvm, I find this difficult to reconcile with basic Catholic behaviour.
I am glad God will be my judge and not you. Catholic behaviour? Catholic behaviour is to take up spiritual arms and fight the fight in these dark times and be awake and alert know the devil prowls around seeking someone to devour. That is Catholic behaviour and it prompts me to have an opinion I don't feel comfortable with but I know is the right way.
I used to visit the monastery every year almost from his get go. My family and I have watched him grow but we also saw him tired and at one point having an unexplainable loss of his voice somehow related to his exhaustion.
What is this supposed to prove? --Sorry, if you don't understand maybe you need to read it a few more times.
I was there on the eve of his sending two of his monks to Winona to become priests. I would say Father Cyprian knows full well he is a Benedictine, not sspx, and once he has his priests he will have it made. That doesn't excuse the behaviour, in my opinion, and the useage of flattery which is in my missal under the examination of conscience before confession.
This turn about is a sad one and weighs on my soul but fight on we must!
These are incredible statements! You have condemned Fr. Cyprian and his monastery as being betrayers of the cause for Tradition. Where is your proof? I can't believe I am reading these things based on a paragraph from a newsletter.
The fight for Tradition will do well if we have intelligent criticisms but this post, I am afraid to say, is an overreaction and gives ammunition for those to ridicule individuals who have a real concern for the trajectory of the SSPX these past years.
"...based on a paragraph in a newsletter." Excuse me. Do you not understand the events of the last several months? Father Cyprians words in the newsletter are clearly in favor of bishop Fellay and hence a union with Rome. The Dominicans came out with a clear condemnation...maybe you need to read it.
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Statement-by-the-Dominicans-of-AvrilleIf these particular Benedictines were against a betrayl to Rome they should come out and say it. No. The words in the simple "newsletter" are quite clearly taking a side. Proof enough.
Yes. I agree it WOULD be an overreaction if not for the events of the last several months. Events you need to brush up on. Or maybe you already know and are in favor of an agreement with Rome??
Yes. The Benedictines and so many others who are now favoring an agreement with Rome HAVE had real concern for the benefit of the SSPX in the past. That being said there is something much more sinister going on here. The Devil is hard at work and has clearly infected so many priests and faithful with a diabolical disorientation (I can hear your response already but will tell you if I am right or not if you respond).
Something I think is very important for those of us who are the last ones to stand up for Christ's Church in "these last days" (words of sister Lucia of Fatima) is to refrain from belittling another with put downs. Hence the "intelligent" statement in itself being an adversarial statement it would seem we stand on opposite sides.
If you intend on continuing this "forum" or whatever it is suppose to be called do so with charity. Try not to condemn and then judge. You said I was condemning. No. I was lamenting. Seems you jumped the gun.
[/font}I am rather excited that I got a negative, judgemental response and told my wife I was staying up to answer it. It's probably not worth it since nobody's going to change their opinion over a post on the internet. So often these things are read in the wrong way. I am perhaps wrong but this is what I imagined with this OBSCURUS person ---> :cussing: Now I will go close my tired eyes! God speed.
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