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Offline Fanny

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Fr. Cordaro not a priest
« on: December 19, 2017, 05:25:45 PM »
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    • https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://dioceseofscrantonarchive.org/clight/CatholicLight4-13-17.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwj_yr3El5fYAhWLyoMKHaMPA9wQFgg0MAQ&usg=AOvVaw1SO3SfUqIOwf2Y2c8YLjMR

    NOTICE
    This notice is to inform the Christian faithful that John 
    J. Cordaro, formerly a priest of the Oblates of Saint Joseph, 
    was dismissed from the Oblates by their Superior General on 
    August 8, 1989. He currently has no faculties whatsoever to 
    minister in the Catholic Church. Because he has no faculties, 
    he is forbidden to function as a priest in the Roman Catholic 
    Church. Furthermore, the Catholic faithful should not receive 
    the sacraments from Mr. Cordaro or attend his celebration of 
    the sacraments, wherever they may be held.


    http://www.dioceseofscranton.org/official-notice-regarding-john-j-cordaro/

    Posted on: 03-3-2011 Posted in: News
    John J. Cordaro, a resident of Scranton and a former priest of the Oblates of Saint Joseph, has been forbidden to exercise priestly ministry. Catholics of the Diocese of Scranton should be mindful that, in view of this prohibition, they may not approach this person for any of the sacraments.
    Reverend Brian J. W. Clarke
    Vicar General
    Diocese of Scranton
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    Offline Last Tradhican

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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #1 on: December 19, 2017, 05:43:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Fanny on December 19, 2017, 05:25:45 PM
    John J. Cordaro, a resident of Scranton and a former priest of the Oblates of Saint Joseph, has been forbidden to exercise priestly ministry. Catholics of the Diocese of Scranton should be mindful that, in view of this prohibition, they may not approach this person for any of the sacraments.
    Reverend Brian J. W. Clarke
    Vicar General
    Diocese of Scranton
    The same could be said of all SSPX, Sede, and independent trad priests, so why did you single this one out?
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    Offline JezusDeKoning

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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #2 on: December 19, 2017, 06:20:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Fanny on December 19, 2017, 05:25:45 PM
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://dioceseofscrantonarchive.org/clight/CatholicLight4-13-17.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwj_yr3El5fYAhWLyoMKHaMPA9wQFgg0MAQ&usg=AOvVaw1SO3SfUqIOwf2Y2c8YLjMR

    NOTICE
    This notice is to inform the Christian faithful that John
    J. Cordaro, formerly a priest of the Oblates of Saint Joseph,
    was dismissed from the Oblates by their Superior General on
    August 8, 1989. He currently has no faculties whatsoever to
    minister in the Catholic Church. Because he has no faculties,
    he is forbidden to function as a priest in the Roman Catholic
    Church. Furthermore, the Catholic faithful should not receive
    the sacraments from Mr. Cordaro or attend his celebration of
    the sacraments, wherever they may be held.


    http://www.dioceseofscranton.org/official-notice-regarding-john-j-cordaro/

    Posted on: 03-3-2011 Posted in: News
    John J. Cordaro, a resident of Scranton and a former priest of the Oblates of Saint Joseph, has been forbidden to exercise priestly ministry. Catholics of the Diocese of Scranton should be mindful that, in view of this prohibition, they may not approach this person for any of the sacraments.
    Reverend Brian J. W. Clarke
    Vicar General
    Diocese of Scranton
    Technically, neither do most traditionalist priests. In saner times, they'd be saying this exact sentence about the SSPX as they have no jurisdiction, apostolic succession or faculties from the mainstream church.
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    Offline Fanny

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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #3 on: December 19, 2017, 08:29:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on December 19, 2017, 05:43:44 PM
    The same could be said of all SSPX, Sede, and independent trad priests, so why did you single this one out?
    Hardly.
    The sspx is a canonically recognised order.
    "Independent trad priests" have not necessarily been kicked out of their order and many independent priests have a bishop in a canonically sound order.
    To call him "mr."  means he has been laicised.
    "Fr." Cordaro has been presented as a legitimate priest at OLMC, ky.  

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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #4 on: December 19, 2017, 10:04:18 PM »
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #5 on: December 20, 2017, 07:14:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on December 19, 2017, 05:43:44 PM
    The same could be said of all SSPX, Sede, and independent trad priests, so why did you single this one out?
    One notices a particularly strong dislike for all things associated with the Kentucky priests from Fanny. Unfortunately it’s a little too pervasive and all consuming, at least here on this forum, for one to trust every new spin fanny tries to offer us. This one being no exception. 
    For as Last tradican so aptly points out, prior to +BF’s maneuvers of 2012, these diocesan words would have been directed at all sspx priests. 
    So in the interest of fairness and showing we are not unduly discriminating, Ms. Fanny, why are you asking us to believe there is something more sinister with this particular priest you created this thread about.
    Because what you have proffered here doesn’t cut it.
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #6 on: December 20, 2017, 09:25:51 AM »
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    • If any priest is forbidden to exercise ministry, quite specifically like this, by a diocese, it would be highly irregular to carry on as if you had a better reason to ignore the censure.
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #7 on: December 20, 2017, 10:11:31 AM »
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    • if a priest is kicked out if his order he is not generally laicised.  


    Laicization is punishment for something really bad and generally of a moral nature.


    My opinion does not matter.  And I am not asking anyone to believe anything.  Read the facts and determine for yourselves.
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    Web-Adr. Courtesy/Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #8 on: December 20, 2017, 12:01:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Fanny on December 19, 2017, 10:04:18 PM
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.dioceseofpgh.org/sites/default/files/CanonCivilLawReview.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwi705f61pfYAhXF4IMKHaOFD8UQFgg5MAY&usg=AOvVaw0PuUemdE0sIXLpqV0Nul1A

    [expletives deleted]!

    It would be greatly appreciated if  before we CathInfo members post Web addresses on C.I., each of us would make the courteous brief effort that's needed to clean off the garbage with which Google needlessly encrusts Web addresses, whenever docuмents are otherwise available normally, i.e., without recourse to any specialized Web service from Google [×].

    In this case, that courteous brief effort for one's fellow CathInfo members makes the difference between these:
    ·  202-character Google-encrusted Web address, in which its sheer length makes it easy to overlook the fact that it accesses a [expletive-deleted] PDF file; altho' in plain sight out at characters 123--125, not only are those tell-tale 3 characters preceded by 122 characters, but they're also followed by 77 more characters of Google garbage;
    versus
    ·  simple 71-character Web address, which plainly shows it's a PDF file, without extra alertness nor effort being demanded from a C.I. reader:

      <http://www.dioceseofpgh.org/sites/default/files/CanonCivilLawReview.pdf>

    Likewise, a Web address in the original posting of this topic:
    Quote from: Fanny on December 19, 2017, 05:25:45 PM
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://dioceseofscrantonarchive.org/clight/CatholicLight4-13-17.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwj_yr3El5fYAhWLyoMKHaMPA9wQFgg0MAQ&usg=AOvVaw1SO3SfUqIOwf2Y2c8YLjMR

    Which when  courteously cleaned up, becomes simply:

      <http://dioceseofscrantonarchive.org/clight/CatholicLight4-13-17.pdf>

    Altho' that file occupies a whopping 33.7 megabytes!  Whoa!  What else do I get from downloading such a huge file?

    CathInfo does seem to have a few members whose Internet-surfing skills are not adequate for providing such courtesies, but it would not be credible to claim that the sternly dogged Fanny would be entitled to any dispensations applying the same excuse.

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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #9 on: December 20, 2017, 12:11:17 PM »
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    • I am sorry.

    I will try what you suggest, but I am totally inept at such things.  Research I can do, but I am not tech savvy.
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #10 on: December 20, 2017, 01:26:42 PM »
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    So in the interest of fairness and showing we are not unduly discriminating, Ms. Fanny, why are you asking us to believe there is something more sinister with this particular priest you created this thread about.
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    I am not asking anyone to believe anything.  Read the facts and determine for yourselves.
    Fanny, is there no summary of why he was kicked out?  All you posted was that he no longer has faculties.  Why does he not have faculties anymore?  Does the docuмent not say?  If it doesn't say, are we supposed to google and come up with our own opinion?  What does that solve?
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #11 on: December 20, 2017, 01:43:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on December 20, 2017, 01:26:42 PM
    Fanny, is there no summary of why he was kicked out?  All you posted was that he no longer has faculties.  Why does he not have faculties anymore?  Does the docuмent not say?  If it doesn't say, are we supposed to google and come up with our own opinion?  What does that solve?
    Written here on CI, back in 2013, this is not definitive, but perhaps it can shed light on why information can be scarce.
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    « Reply #8 on: July 31, 2013, 10:46:48 PM »

    I served as webmaster for the chapel in Sanford since 2005 through earlier this year. You may have remembered last year there was a docuмent from Rome in regards to a "friend of the Society chapel" which was in Jacksonville. The docuмent basically said that someone couldn't go to this Mass. The Church belongs to Fr. Marshall Roberts. The docuмent was turned into the Internet on a Thursday and on Friday my phone was blown up by Fr. Duvergier and Vernoy regarding this docuмent and that any mention of either Fr. Roberts of his chapel had to be removed.

    On the SSPX chapel website we had pictures of Fr. Roberts since he assisted at a rather poorly executed altar consecration (in which during the ceremony amongst other things the altar stone broke). I received numerous calls from the priests (despite being at work and helping patients and nurses with discharges from hospitals across America) that not only did these images/texts had to be removed from the SSPX website, but I should run a program on the website to make sure all mention is gone. Also, I was told point blank by Fr. Duvergier that if someone were to ask me why there is no longer any mention of Fr. Roberts on the site, then I'm to tell them I know nothing. Yes, a Catholic who runs a website is supposed to "know nothing" about his website?

    Not everyone has this mentality within the SSPX and I'm not going to paint with a broad brush but such actions, after praying about it for months, are simply cultish.
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    Ordained?/Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #12 on: December 20, 2017, 01:56:31 PM »
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    • <http://www.dioceseofpgh.org/sites/default/files/CanonCivilLawReview.pdf>

    Aha!   N.B.: The Diocese of Pittsburgh is too clueless to embed the date of what is apparently a periodical publication in the Web address at which they're storing it.

    Quote from: CANON AND CIVIL LAW REVIEW ... DIOCESE OF PITTSBURGH (November 2006)
    [....]
    M. NOTICES REGARDING INDIVIDUALS PRESENTING THEMSELVES AS PRIESTS IN GOOD STANDING
    The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has published notices regarding priests who are not in good standing and do not possess the faculties of their diocese or religious community.  Should you be contacted by them please notify the Vicar for Canonical Services immediately.
    [....]
    Fr. John J. Cordaro   Diocese of Scranton
    [....]
    Mr. Andy Richardson   (not ordained)

    The names immediately above are unable to be shown in the 2-column format in which they originally appeared in the docuмent that's cited in the Web address above.  Even were I able to show the columns in the PDF, they completely lacked any heading, so in the case of Cordaro, readers have no way to know what the right-side text "Diocese of Scranton" signifies, e.g.:
    ·  Last diocese to issue faculties to that individual?
    ·  By whom?  (any reason to doubt the validity of his consecration?)
    ·  Using what ordinal?  (what edition or year of publication?)

    Note that Cordaro is listed as a "F[athe]r".  So the first-things-first question for which CathInfo readers are overdue to be provided with a docuмented answer:
    ·  Where & when was he ordained as a priest, or otherwise installed?
    ·  By whom?
    ·  Using what ordinal?  (what year's edition?)

    Please understand that I showed Richardson's name only because he's the docuмent's only individual who is listed as not a priest (I suspect that he's otherwise completely irrelevant to this topic).  Yes, I'm well aware that "(not ordained)" is the chronological opposite of "laicized".
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #13 on: December 20, 2017, 02:13:35 PM »
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    • Thread in response to Last Tradhican's question and reference that it is from the CI poster, White Wolf:

    "I went down to the chancery office and inquired about Fr Cordaro, and was told more or less that he was some pervert associated with Shohola [...the SSJ], but no docuмentation was forthcoming.  I call the district office in Elmhurst and talked to (I cannot even recall the name of that superior, the post was a revolving door at the time, and I'm not going to bother to look it up.)  the superior and he told me it was a problem for the diocese.  Meanwhile, the diocese told me the problem was for the FSSP to resolve.
     
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #14 on: December 20, 2017, 02:28:15 PM »
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    • I could not find the reference in "Catholic Light" (play on words for Scranton NO?) to the priest in question, but as a side note did you see the photo on page 3 of the "sisters"  ???  
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