Author Topic: Fr. Cordaro not a priest (Read 11442 times)

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #60 on:** January 04, 2018, 12:59:58 PM »

Quote from: Fanny on January 04, 2018, 12:41:54 PM

You are wrong.
If you would support a seminary who allows a laicised priest who is good friends with a confessed and convicted pervert to say mass on seminary grounds, that is up to you.
However, presenting truth so others can evaluate whether or not they want to support such is called charity, not detraction.

Madam, you should refrain from posting altogether, you have no common sense, or coherence in your analysis and conclusions. Let your husband do the talking, I am sure he has already told you that.

Fanny · « **Reply #61 on:** January 04, 2018, 04:27:55 PM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican on January 04, 2018, 12:59:58 PM

Madam, you should refrain from posting altogether, you have no common sense, or coherence in your analysis and conclusions. Let your husband do the talking, I am sure he has already told you that.

You are a bully.

Cordaro is a good friend of tetherow and he has been laicised. That's enough for me.

Nadir · « **Reply #62 on:** January 04, 2018, 04:46:26 PM »

You are starting to sound like a parrot!

MaterDominici · « **Reply #63 on:** January 04, 2018, 05:32:30 PM »

Quote from: CathMomof7 on January 04, 2018, 12:44:57 PM

Since Novus Ordo orders aren't valid, why is anyone concerned that a priest was liacized, unless it has to do with pedophilia or ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity?

This is my question. Do we really have a solid number of Resistance supporters who are going to accept a priest ordained in the Novus Ordo who hasn't been conditionally ordained? He could be very traditional with a spotless record and I'd still be wondering if he's been properly ordained in the first place.

If he truly wants to join / support the Resistance, there are a number of bishops he could approach for conditional ordination.

Confiteor Deo · « **Reply #64 on:** January 04, 2018, 05:57:38 PM »

Quote from: MaterDominici on January 04, 2018, 05:32:30 PM

This is my question. Do we really have a solid number of Resistance supporters who are going to accept a priest ordained in the Novus Ordo who hasn't been conditionally ordained? He could be very traditional with a spotless record and I'd still be wondering if he's been properly ordained in the first place.

If he truly wants to join / support the Resistance, there are a number of bishops he could approach for conditional ordination.

Has Father Paul Kramer been conditionally re ordained since he joined the Resistance community in Cebu?

Mr G · « **Reply #65 on:** January 05, 2018, 01:18:30 PM »

Quote from: Confiteor Deo on January 04, 2018, 05:57:38 PM

Has Father Paul Kramer been conditionally re ordained since he joined the Resistance community in Cebu?

That I do not know, but I do remember listening to Fr. Hesse, say that when he brought up the subject (years ago) to the attention of Bishop, Fellay, Williamson and Tissier; all three said it (re-ordination) was not necessary. (Note, Fr. Hesse, Kramer and Gruner all studied together and got ordained around the same time , although I do not recall if they got ordained by the same bishop).
Also of note, Fr. Kramer was helping the SSPX in the Philippines many years before 2012 and it did not seem to be an issue then.

Confiteor Deo · « **Reply #66 on:** January 05, 2018, 03:07:54 PM »

Quote from: Mr G on January 05, 2018, 01:18:30 PM

That I do not know, but I do remember listening to Fr. Hesse, say that when he brought up the subject (years ago) to the attention of Bishop, Fellay, Williamson and Tissier; all three said it (re-ordination) was not necessary. (Note, Fr. Hesse, Kramer and Gruner all studied together and got ordained around the same time , although I do not recall if they got ordained by the same bishop).
Also of note, Fr. Kramer was helping the SSPX in the Philippines many years before 2012 and it did not seem to be an issue then

Would it have been an issue for Archbishop Lefevbre ? I thought all novos ordo 'priests' in Mgr Lefevbre's FSSPX were conditionally reordained, and assumed that the Resistance would do the same. I wouldn't attend the mass of Paul VI ordained 'priest' or of any other valid priest who share the same tabernacle where one might receive Holy Communion from hosts 'consecrated' by a unproperly ordained minister.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #67 on:** January 05, 2018, 05:40:52 PM »

I also will not receive what may, or may not, be Holy Communion from a priest not properly ordained in the traditional rite (by a certainly validly consecrated bishop), and that would include Fr. Kramer/Hesse/Gruner.

ignatius · « **Reply #68 on:** January 06, 2018, 08:58:50 AM »

Quote from: Fanny on December 20, 2017, 10:11:31 AM

if a priest is kicked out if his order he is not generally laicised.

Laicization is punishment for something really bad and generally of a moral nature.

My opinion does not matter. And I am not asking anyone to believe anything. Read the facts and determine for yourselves.

Fanny,

Laicized in a catholic dictionary means a priest is reduced to a lay state by the pope. Only a pope can laicize a priest. A ordinary bishop cannot.

In the OP, those two excerpts mention the removal of Father Cordaro from his order and not to function as a priest in the diocese of scranton, and in other jurisdictions without the permission of another bishop - the priest was dismissed, no faculties, forbidden to exercise, prohibition, not in good standing.

For the diocese to use these other words as they did forbidden to function as a priest in the Roman Catholic Church is an abuse of terms to communicate to the faithful. Just as they used the abbreviation MR.

This is the same tactic the NO bishops use against all those priests in tradition who do not agree with their modernism. Pure fear mongering insulting their people not to know the difference.

Fanny · « **Reply #69 on:** January 06, 2018, 09:19:04 PM »

I contacted the oblates where Mr. Cordaro used to be. This was their reply:

These notices [in the diocese bulletin] were issued due to his reported strange behavior causing concern of his overall mental and emotional state of mind.

I am aware of an accusation that was reported by a diocese in Vermont alleging that John Cordaro had inappropriate contact with a minor. I am unable to confirm if anything came out of that case.

Therefore, in light of these serious concerns by both church and civil officials, I respectfully request that your sons NOT be alone in the company of this man or to have any affiliation with him whatsoever. Because of past allegations, prudence tells us that you must refrain from any and all association with him.

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Here is a side oddity:
Photo of Mr. Cordaro sometime around July of 2016 when those trump/pence signs went up. Note he is in a NO black suit, not the traditional habit he wore in KY recently.
Why would he be in a suit then and a traditional habit now, just one and a half years later?

http://refilmery.com/photography/newscorp/attachment/father-john-cordaro-at-his-home-in-scranton-pa-photo-by-david-joshua-ford/

Smedley Butler · « **Reply #70 on:** January 07, 2018, 12:04:07 PM »

Quote from: Fanny on January 06, 2018, 09:19:04 PM

I contacted the oblates where Mr. Cordaro used to be. This was their reply:

These notices [in the diocese bulletin] were issued due to his reported strange behavior causing concern of his overall mental and emotional state of mind.

I am aware of an accusation that was reported by a diocese in Vermont alleging that John Cordaro had inappropriate contact with a minor. I am unable to confirm if anything came out of that case.

Therefore, in light of these serious concerns by both church and civil officials, I respectfully request that your sons NOT be alone in the company of this man or to have any affiliation with him whatsoever. Because of past allegations, prudence tells us that you must refrain from any and all association with him.

And there it is, straight from his Orders' mouth:
"Inappropriate contact with a minor."
That's it, end of story.
Anyone who supports Fr. Pfeiffer and his pedos are out of their minds.
Also, Fr. Cordaro is connected to Bp. Ambrose Moran.
Wake up, people!

Smedley Butler · « **Reply #71 on:** January 07, 2018, 12:09:43 PM »

The pattern of recklessness with those they are charged to shepherd and the total lack of performance of due diligence on the part of Fr. Hewko and Fr. Pfeiffer should serve as fair warning to all right-minded individuals

Fanny · « **Reply #72 on:** January 07, 2018, 09:19:57 PM »

Quote from: Smedley Butler on January 07, 2018, 12:09:43 PM

The pattern of recklessness with those they are charged to shepherd and the total lack of performance of due diligence on the part of Fr. Hewko and Fr. Pfeiffer should serve as fair warning to all right-minded individuals

You are so right.

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