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Offline Last Tradhican

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Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
« Reply #45 on: December 30, 2017, 04:59:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on December 27, 2017, 10:42:35 AM
    The people willing to look to excuse these priests is bizarre. Right-thinking Catholics know to flee from this filth. What part has Christ with Belial? Even if Belial says he loves the Latin Mass and hates VII? Wake up!
    I see no one making excuses for those priests. What I do see is inept communication from those posting the warning. I am totally unbiased in this.  The information on other threads about Fr. Roberts is very complete.  The information on Titherow is also complete. It is the information here on Cordera which is inept. Get your act together and put it all in one new OP.

    Is the guy a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, he is to be avoided. Give a clear warning.

    People here do not care if a Novus Ordo bishop or Bergolio tells us to avoid a trad priest, that is not enough, as all the Novus Ordo bishops and Bergolio are not Catholics orthodox in belief and it is they that we avoid. 
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #46 on: December 30, 2017, 11:13:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on December 30, 2017, 04:59:09 AM
    Is the guy a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, he is to be avoided. Give a clear warning.

    People here do not care if a Novus Ordo bishop or Bergolio tells us to avoid a trad priest, that is not enough, as all the Novus Ordo bishops and Bergolio are not Catholics orthodox in belief and it is they that we avoid.
    Unless you are some version of sedevecanti, you can't reject everything coming out Rome because not all of it is bad. 
    The only reason to avoid a priest is if he is a pervert?  I can think of many other reasons as well.  Consider that even though urrutigoity is a definite pervert, he has not been laicised.  How bad does one have to be to be laicised???  Pretty bad...
    And to have a "Good friend" be tetherow?  
    In my book, those are enough to want to stay away.  I would not risk my soul or my children to such a man.  
    Do what you will.
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #47 on: December 31, 2017, 03:51:12 AM »
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    Urrutigoity is a definite pervert, he has not been laicised.  How bad does one have to be to be laicised???
    Wrong conclusion.

    Urritigoity has not been laicized, along with hundreds of thousand other ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ priests, because they are all protected by the "pink mafia", the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ bishops and hierarchy. The fact that Cordera has been laicized and Urritigoity, who has a MUCH longer trail of deviant activity, has not, does not necessarily mean Cordera is worse than Urritigoity or the other hundreds of thousand ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ priests.

    No ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ should be a priest, not a one.
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #48 on: December 31, 2017, 03:55:22 AM »
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    Unless you are some version of sedevecanti, you can't reject everything coming out Rome because not all of it is bad.
    Rat poison is 99.99% nutritious food. 
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #49 on: December 31, 2017, 09:11:23 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on December 31, 2017, 03:51:12 AM
    No ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ should be a priest, not a one.
    Couldn't agree with you more.
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #50 on: December 31, 2017, 09:13:56 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on December 31, 2017, 03:55:22 AM
    Rat poison is 99.99% nutritious food.
    Not the rat poison I use.  
    It's mostly gmo corn.
    He is a good friend of tetherow and he has been laicised.  That's enough for me.
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #51 on: January 03, 2018, 07:45:17 PM »
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    • I live in the Diocese of Scranton.  I still get the Catholic "Lite" due to our time in the NO.  

    The Diocese of Scranton is two things: a cesspool for pedophile priests AND a cesspool of corruption.

    I know for a 100% fact that many good, traditional, and honest priests are run out, and yes, laicized for nothing immoral at all.

    I know personally two priests who have been laicized for doing absolutely nothing wrong.  Nothing.

    In fact, my husband, who is a mental health counselor, was hired by one such priest to do an independent mental health evaluation because he had been found by the Bishops council to be mentally unfit.  His mental illness, in case you wonder, was believing that Our Lady of Fatima indeed predicted a chastisement, that the chastisement may well be upon us, and because he was found to be "prepping" for such chastisement.  This is a true story.  The priest was run out of the diocese completely.  He wished to remain a priest but he was laicized and all faculties removed.  He attempted to seek refuge with the SSPX but was refused because he had student loan debt.  Last I heard he was living with family members out west.  

    Another priest was laicized for being a whistle blower.  That is also a true story.  I know this man personally.  He is not a creepo, nor a pedophile.  He simply could not tolerate the corruption he saw in the diocese and wherever they sent him, he reported it.  So they accused him of financial impropriety or something, decided he was mentally unfit, and wham, laicized.

    So I don't know what Fr. Cordaro was laicized.  It could be simply that he was offering traditional Masses.  I know that, for awhile, he was offering them somewhere because ALWAYS the Catholic "Lite" reminded us of Fr. Cordaro and warned us that the SSPX was in schism.  Always together.  This was around 2004 or 2005.  

    I also know for 100% fact that there are priests in the Diocese that are disgusting pervs and have been prosecuted that STILL prey on unsuspecting families.  The Diocese is full of those as well.

    BUT unless someone knows the circuмstances of Father Cordaro it is HIGHLY inappropriate to scandalize him in this manner.  I don't know his issue, but I will find out.

    I know he was also in Florida.  I know, also, that he was a friend of Fr. Wickens and tried desperately to keep his chapel in New Jersey in the hands of the faithful.

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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #52 on: January 03, 2018, 10:09:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: CathMomof7 on January 03, 2018, 07:45:17 PM
    I live in the Diocese of Scranton.  I still get the Catholic "Lite" due to our time in the NO.  

    The Diocese of Scranton is two things: a cesspool for pedophile priests AND a cesspool of corruption.

    I know for a 100% fact that many good, traditional, and honest priests are run out, and yes, laicized for nothing immoral at all.

    I know personally two priests who have been laicized for doing absolutely nothing wrong.  Nothing.

    In fact, my husband, who is a mental health counselor, was hired by one such priest to do an independent mental health evaluation because he had been found by the Bishops council to be mentally unfit.  His mental illness, in case you wonder, was believing that Our Lady of Fatima indeed predicted a chastisement, that the chastisement may well be upon us, and because he was found to be "prepping" for such chastisement.  This is a true story.  The priest was run out of the diocese completely.  He wished to remain a priest but he was laicized and all faculties removed.  He attempted to seek refuge with the SSPX but was refused because he had student loan debt.  Last I heard he was living with family members out west.  

    Another priest was laicized for being a whistle blower.  That is also a true story.  I know this man personally.  He is not a creepo, nor a pedophile.  He simply could not tolerate the corruption he saw in the diocese and wherever they sent him, he reported it.  So they accused him of financial impropriety or something, decided he was mentally unfit, and wham, laicized.

    So I don't know what Fr. Cordaro was laicized.  It could be simply that he was offering traditional Masses.  I know that, for awhile, he was offering them somewhere because ALWAYS the Catholic "Lite" reminded us of Fr. Cordaro and warned us that the SSPX was in schism.  Always together.  This was around 2004 or 2005.  

    I also know for 100% fact that there are priests in the Diocese that are disgusting pervs and have been prosecuted that STILL prey on unsuspecting families.  The Diocese is full of those as well.

    BUT unless someone knows the circuмstances of Father Cordaro it is HIGHLY inappropriate to scandalize him in this manner.  I don't know his issue, but I will find out.

    I know he was also in Florida.  I know, also, that he was a friend of Fr. Wickens and tried desperately to keep his chapel in New Jersey in the hands of the faithful.

    Somewhat related:

    http://sodalitium-pianum.com/romes-new-secret-weapon/
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #53 on: January 04, 2018, 08:12:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 03, 2018, 10:09:28 PM
    Somewhat related:

    http://sodalitium-pianum.com/romes-new-secret-weapon/
    From the article, and this applies to Fr. Cordera, as no one on this thread has brought forward any proof that he is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ:

    The Problem:
    What the whole traditional Catholic world seemed to miss, however, was that according to the new legislation, any priest who converted from conciliarism to traditional Catholicism, and desired to join a traditional community (e.g., SSPX) now faced eventual and inevitable laicization from his diocesan bishop, since in every instance (barring death), all such priests would eventually be considered to have abandoned their public ministry for “a period of more than five consecutive years,” thereby triggering the application of the censure.
    Checkmate.
    Consequently, since 2009, a double-edged sword has dangled precariously over the head of any priest considering converting to Tradition: If he leaves, he will eventually become subject to laicization after 5 years in Tradition.  More than this, the unthinking public will naturally presume the laicization to have been for grave moral crimes (sex abuse, etc), rather than a conversion to Tradition.
    Conversely, real and true degenerates can make the opposite argument: They are falsely accused of grave moral misdemeanors as persecution for their conversion to Tradition!
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #54 on: January 04, 2018, 10:10:59 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on January 04, 2018, 08:12:22 AM
    From the article, and this applies to Fr. Cordera, as no one on this thread has brought forward any proof that he is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ:
    No one said he's a pervert.
    What was said is that he was kicked out of his order and laicised in 1989, and the warnings from the diocese continue to this day.
    It was also said that he is "good friends" with Mr. Tetherow,  a confessed and convicted child pornographer.  
    For him to do his own little thing in Scranton, in his own home, is one thing.  For him to be brought to a seminary is quite another.
    If I find anything else about him I will post it.  
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #55 on: January 04, 2018, 11:06:05 AM »
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    • Quote from: Fanny on January 04, 2018, 10:10:59 AM
    No one said he's a pervert.
    What was said is that he was kicked out of his order and laicised in 1989, and the warnings from the diocese continue to this day.
    It was also said that he is "good friends" with Mr. Tetherow,  a confessed and convicted child pornographer.  
    For him to do his own little thing in Scranton, in his own home, is one thing.  For him to be brought to a seminary is quite another.
    If I find anything else about him I will post it.  
    But what you are doing is attaching something immoral to Father Cordaro's status in the Diocese of Scranton.  As I pointed out, very clearly, the Diocese has a long recorded habit of liacizing priests that have done nothing immoral but are traditional priests.
    He may very well be good friends with Mr. Tetherow.  It is my understanding that Mr. Tetherow is quite an adept liar and very charismatic.  He has duped a great number of people, including some very honest and trusting traditional priests.  I know of at least 2 traditional priests that are not pedos in anyway that have been misled by Mr. Tetherow.  That Fr. Cordaro is friends with Mr. Tetherow doesn't mean very much to me, at this point.  Mr. Tetherow has convinced a great number of people that he was wrongly convicted and evidence was planted.  Honest people often believe him.  Not saying, that I do, or taking up for Tetherow, but simply pointing out that he is evil enough to convince good men of his innocence.  Simply because someone is "friends" with him, doesn't make them also a pedophile.
    I have no personal knowledge of Father Cordaro, only what I have heard from others who do know him and what information I have been able to gather over the years from the Diocese.
    Unless you have some real evidence that Father Cordaro is indeed a pedophile or that he actually did something immoral to merit laicization, then you are quite guilty of rash judgment.
    While I agree that whatever is going on in Kentucky is unfortunate, a priest deserves the benefit of the doubt unless proven otherwise.  
    To drag Father Cordaro's  name through the mud, accuse him of not being a priest, or to question his motives is uncharitable and wrong.  
    If the ONLY evidence you have is that the Diocese of Scranton laicized him in 1989 and he was associated with the rotten priests from Scranton, that is no evidence at all.  Scranton laicizes priests all the time.  It doesn't mean he did anything wrong and it doesn't mean that the laicization was just.
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #56 on: January 04, 2018, 11:12:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: Fanny on January 04, 2018, 10:10:59 AM
    No one said he's a pervert.
    What was said is that he was kicked out of his order and laicised in 1989, and the warnings from the diocese continue to this day.
    It was also said that he is "good friends" with Mr. Tetherow,  a confessed and convicted child pornographer.  
    For him to do his own little thing in Scranton, in his own home, is one thing.  For him to be brought to a seminary is quite another.
    If I find anything else about him I will post it.  
    Agreed.  
    Shouldn't Cordaro have the sense to not associate with pedo priests if he isn't one?
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #57 on: January 04, 2018, 12:00:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on January 04, 2018, 11:12:44 AM
    Agreed.  
    Shouldn't Cordaro have the sense to not associate with pedo priests if he isn't one?
    Both you and Fanny are committing the sin of detraction with this thread about Cordero. Unless you two bring forward proof of why he was laicized, this whole thread is garbage.
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #58 on: January 04, 2018, 12:41:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on January 04, 2018, 12:00:24 PM
    Both you and Fanny are committing the sin of detraction with this thread about Cordero. Unless you two bring forward proof of why he was laicized, this whole thread is garbage.
    You are wrong.
    If you would support a seminary who allows a laicised priest who is good friends with a confessed and convicted pervert to say mass on seminary grounds, that is up to you.  
    However, presenting truth so others can evaluate whether or not they want to support such is called charity,  not detraction.
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    Re: Fr. Cordaro not a priest
    « Reply #59 on: January 04, 2018, 12:44:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on January 04, 2018, 12:00:24 PM
    Both you and Fanny are committing the sin of detraction with this thread about Cordero. Unless you two bring forward proof of why he was laicized, this whole thread is garbage.
    Exactly!
    Father Cordaro was a priest of the Oblates of St. Joseph.  He was removed in 1989.  20 years earlier, in 1969, he was giving speeches and working on recruitment to the seminary.  He was in a lot of papers in the Diocese.  His family is from Scranton.  In fact, his brother passed away in 2015.  
    Why was he dismissed in 1989?  Good question.  I know a priest was dismissed from the Oblates because he was caught converting people on their death beds and offering traditional Masses.  
    As far as I know, since Father Cordaro was laicized in 1989, he wouldn't have been associated with the Society of St. John as they were not formed until 1997 and they were watched over by the creepo Bishop Timlin.  
    The were a multitude of problems with the Society of St. John, including financial matters, as well as accusations of sɛҳuąƖ assault by several students mostly accusing Ensey and Urrutigoity.  I don't believe that Father Cordaro was associated with them at the time, unless he was asked to come there an offer Masses.  When the Society of St. John was suppressed, it would have been possible to laicize all the priests associated with it, but I don't think Bishop Martino did that.
    Subsequently, Bishop Martino, who was actually a friend to tradition, was put under so much pressure by liberal lay people and priests, that he had a mental break down and locked himself in his office just to find some peace.  He was practically forced to resign because the Catholics of this Diocese hated him so much.
    Unless someone can identify that Father Cordaro was named in any suits of sɛҳuąƖ misconduct, drug abuse, or theft, I don't think it's appropriate to accuse a priest of something he didn't do.
    Since Novus Ordo orders aren't valid, why is anyone concerned that a priest was liacized, unless it has to do with pedophilia or ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity?  
    Father Cordaro may be a different story.  He may have been ordained before the changes were made.
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