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Offline Mr G

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Fr Chazals reply to Catholic Candle
« on: January 08, 2017, 09:55:48 AM »
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  • As reported by Samuel the administrator of ABL3 forum: http://ablf3.com/threads/warning-candle-fog.706/


    With Fr Chazal's permission, here is my question :

    Dear Fr Chazal,

    The 'Catholic Candle' just published the following (see below), in which Fr Pio seems to be associated with OLMC. It suggest sending 'names of departed loved ones' (and indirectly donations also ?) to the Pfeiffers (who are behind this Catholic Candle).

    Can you shed some light on this ? Is Fr Pio having one foot in that camp ? Or are they making this all up ?

    God Bless,

    Samuel?

    And here is Fr Chazal's reply :

    No.
    Fr Pio is much aware of the problem with fr Pfeiffer. He has clearly denounced the lamentable absence if classes of Canon Law, Moral Theology, Dogma, let alone Scripture, Acts, training on how to say Mass etc. This is against the explicit canonical requirements for seminaries, and confirms Bishop Williamson misgivings about OLMC.

    Moreover Fr Pio confirms the other reported abuses are taking place.
    Fr Valan reports that Fr Pfeiffer tried to drive a wedge between him and Fr Pio in his last uninvited visit in India last August, all in vain.

    Fr Pfeiffer may use "the Faith" as a shield, but he is a delinquent, and incorrigible. We have been patient for years with him, and i can prove it, but now the cup is full.
    Same for Fr Raphael who is in constant and close cooperation with Bishop Thomas Aquinas. Both of them have made recently great inroads in Colombia and Ecuador, one Colombian priest was conditionally ordained by Bishop Aquinas(his first ordination i guess), and Bishop Aquinas is not collaborating with Fr Pfeiffer.

    Brother John, who is about to be ordained in England if he gets his visa (with your good prayers), is the object of his calumnies. I think he fears to lose his tenuous grip further, once we put more good priests online.
    Fr Pfeiffer also tells the faithful that it is business as usual in the missions, but that notion is eroding inexorably.

    What worries us is that he still maintains that double episcopal consecrations, (one of them secret) are legitimate and valid.
    I keep my fingers crossed and pray he will not commit such huge, crowning, act of stupidity.

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    Fr Chazals reply to Catholic Candle
    « Reply #1 on: January 08, 2017, 10:01:31 AM »
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  • What is a double episcopal consecration?


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    Fr Chazals reply to Catholic Candle
    « Reply #2 on: January 08, 2017, 12:40:17 PM »
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    What worries us is that he still maintains that double episcopal consecrations, (one of them secret) are legitimate and valid.
    I keep my fingers crossed and pray he will not commit such huge, crowning, act of stupidity.

    Fc+?


    WHAT does he mean by this?

    Has Fr. Pfeiffer already been consecrated once, in secret?
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    Fr Chazals reply to Catholic Candle
    « Reply #3 on: January 08, 2017, 01:06:05 PM »
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  • I think Fr. Chazal is making a reference to Mr. Moran...
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    Fr Chazals reply to Catholic Candle
    « Reply #4 on: January 08, 2017, 01:20:40 PM »
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    I think Fr. Chazal is making a reference to Mr. Moran...


    Fr. Chazal knows Mr. Moran is not a bishop. He must be referring to Fr. Pfeiffer (?). His "friend" Tetherow has several SV ties.
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    Fr Chazals reply to Catholic Candle
    « Reply #5 on: January 08, 2017, 02:18:57 PM »
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    Fr. Chazal knows Mr. Moran is not a bishop. He must be referring to Fr. Pfeiffer (?). His "friend" Tetherow has several SV ties.


    In no way do I defend Mr. Moran's so-called "orders", but there are those out there that still do, despite the evidence against such claims. I hope Fr. Pfeiffer's ambitions of becoming a bishop have not caused him to lose all sense of reason...

    Still, I thought Fr. Pfeiffer and those who follow him still argue that Mr. Moran is a "Catholic Bishop"? As I remember it, Mr. Moran was allegedly "consecrated" by Cardinal Slipyj and then again "secretly". Isn't Fr. Chazal referencing this (debunked) argument? I could be wrong.
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    Fr Chazals reply to Catholic Candle
    « Reply #6 on: January 08, 2017, 03:15:33 PM »
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  • I don't know. We'll see.
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    Fr Chazals reply to Catholic Candle
    « Reply #7 on: January 08, 2017, 04:53:57 PM »
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  • This might be wrong, but there is a story that Fr. P. is under the impression he is meant to be a bishop because of a private "prophecy" to that effect an acquaintance had some time back.  Am only saying this because, if the story is true (not the prophecy, just the account of it), this might explain why he seems so full steam ahead at times about things - or everything! - and does not consider that he's possibly being misled, since "it's in the cards."    


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    Fr Chazals reply to Catholic Candle
    « Reply #8 on: January 08, 2017, 06:16:27 PM »
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  • This looks like a poor translation of something.  Father Chazal has very good command of English and there's some pretty bad English in there.  My guess is that "dubious" (in whatever original language) got translated as "double".

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    Fr Chazals reply to Catholic Candle
    « Reply #9 on: January 10, 2017, 03:04:57 PM »
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  • Quote from: Merry
    This might be wrong, but there is a story that Fr. P. is under the impression he is meant to be a bishop because of a private "prophecy" to that effect an acquaintance had some time back. Am only saying this because, if the story is true (not the prophecy, just the account of it), this might explain why he seems so full steam ahead at times about things - or everything! - and does not consider that he's possibly being misled, since "it's in the cards."    


    In this is he any different from Bishops Fellay or Williamson who believe in unapproved prophecies that the SSPX is divinely ordained to save the Catholic Church?

    All of these men seem to have a need to interpret the future of the Church through the SSPX,  themselves and from the mouths of so called visionaries.
    What do they have in common?, they are all of the SSPX. Was their something in the waters of Econe that made them this way or is it just that they share the same personality traits that would make one subject to these visionary types or perhaps they have a dimension of personally unrecognized pride which the SSPX environment has brought forth in them?   It is indeed a curious coincidence.


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    Fr Chazals reply to Catholic Candle
    « Reply #10 on: January 11, 2017, 02:42:54 AM »
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  • Quote from: SoldierofCtK
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    Fr. Chazal knows Mr. Moran is not a bishop. He must be referring to Fr. Pfeiffer (?). His "friend" Tetherow has several SV ties.


    In no way do I defend Mr. Moran's so-called "orders", but there are those out there that still do, despite the evidence against such claims. I hope Fr. Pfeiffer's ambitions of becoming a bishop have not caused him to lose all sense of reason...

    Still, I thought Fr. Pfeiffer and those who follow him still argue that Mr. Moran is a "Catholic Bishop"? As I remember it, Mr. Moran was allegedly "consecrated" by Cardinal Slipyj and then again "secretly". Isn't Fr. Chazal referencing this (debunked) argument? I could be wrong.


     :facepalm: Lol! why don't you write to Fr. Chazal and ask him. PERIOD!  :scratchchin:
    "It is impious to say, 'I respect every religion.' This is as much as to say: I respect the devil as much as God, vice as much as virtue, falsehood as much as truth, dishonesty as much as honesty, Hell as much as Heaven."
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