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PART 2 will be posted asap.

Noel Christie Danker
GOD ALONE.
"It is impious to say, 'I respect every religion.' This is as much as to say: I respect the devil as much as God, vice as much as virtue, falsehood as much as truth, dishonesty as much as honesty, Hell as much as Heaven."
Fr. Michael Muller, The Church and Her Enemies


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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2013, 05:23:40 AM »
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  • For anyone who would like to print these,
    below find .pdf files of all 5 pages:



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    FR. CHAZALs 2nd Rebuttal - THE PSEUDO-ANTI-LIBERAL ILLUSION (Part 1)
    « Reply #2 on: April 29, 2013, 05:58:13 AM »
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  • FR. CHAZALs 2nd Rebuttal - THE PSEUDO-ANTI-LIBERAL ILLUSION (Part 2)


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    Noel Christie Danker
    GOD ALONE
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    "It is impious to say, 'I respect every religion.' This is as much as to say: I respect the devil as much as God, vice as much as virtue, falsehood as much as truth, dishonesty as much as honesty, Hell as much as Heaven."
    Fr. Michael Muller, The Church and Her Enemies

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    FR. CHAZALs 2nd Rebuttal - THE PSEUDO-ANTI-LIBERAL ILLUSION (Part 1)
    « Reply #3 on: April 29, 2013, 06:22:35 AM »
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  • I can't believe this.  I thought it said .pdf but it said .jpg !!!!

    Let me see here.. this should be okay to print as a .doc file...
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    « Reply #4 on: April 29, 2013, 06:32:18 AM »
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  • And here are pp 6-13:

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    « Reply #5 on: April 29, 2013, 01:10:51 PM »
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  • Thanks Neil!
    Adversus hostem Fidei aeterna auctoritas esto! To the enemies of the Faith no quarter!

    If they refuse to be converted by the Heart of the Immaculate, then in the end they shall be

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    « Reply #6 on: April 29, 2013, 01:59:33 PM »
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  • Yes, thank you. Printed and filed :)

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    « Reply #7 on: April 29, 2013, 03:41:12 PM »
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  • An excellent text, containing the pithiest case I've read yet against the "AFD". It is also an excellent point that, in seeking a practical agreement on his own authority, Bp. Fellay was in rebellion against the 2006 General Chapter.


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    « Reply #9 on: April 30, 2013, 06:39:52 AM »
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  • Good job fr. Chazal..Our Lady is proud of you.  :applause:

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    « Reply #10 on: April 30, 2013, 08:21:51 PM »
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  • Thank you Fr. Chazal...

    By far, this is certainly the best (updated) response...the "nail' in the coffin…the "proverbial key" to the keyhole of this whole SSPX crisis.  

    Well done Father.
     
    Thank you again...


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    « Reply #11 on: April 30, 2013, 09:53:30 PM »
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  • I just went over to angeluspress.org to see what kind of “blog” is happening over there on Fr. Laisney’s article, and someone over there had included Fr. Chazal’s (above) response.  I hope that Angelus Press will be fair and leave it up there in order to have an honest discussion about this crisis.

    We will see…

    http://angeluspress.org/blog/the-pseudo-anti-liberal-illusion/

    William on May 1, 2013 at 2:51 am said:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    I thought for the readers, in order to understand this article’s context of why Fr. Laisney is writing what he is writing, in relation to a rebuttal(s) he is having with Fr. Chazal, I will add Fr. Chazal’s April 18, 2013 reply to it here:

    “L’ILLUSION LIBERALE II” http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=24315&min=0&num=5
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    « Reply #12 on: May 01, 2013, 10:23:00 AM »
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  • Quote from: Machabees
    I just went over to angeluspress.org to see what kind of “blog” is happening over there on Fr. Laisney’s article, and someone over there had included Fr. Chazal’s (above) response.  I hope that Angelus Press will be fair and leave it up there in order to have an honest discussion about this crisis.

    We will see…

    http://angeluspress.org/blog/the-pseudo-anti-liberal-illusion/

    William on May 1, 2013 at 2:51 am said:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    I thought for the readers, in order to understand this article’s context of why Fr. Laisney is writing what he is writing, in relation to a rebuttal(s) he is having with Fr. Chazal, I will add Fr. Chazal’s April 18, 2013 reply to it here:

    “L’ILLUSION LIBERALE II” http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=24315&min=0&num=5
    Reply ↓   


    Well...well...well; look what happened.  The very next day Angeluspress.org removed that post and Fr. Chazal's response.  I am glad that I did a copy and paste on it to keep these guys accountable.  Bottom line, it looks like Fr. Rostand's Angelus Press blog does NOT want to enlighten the minds of their faithful and have a real discussion on this subject.

    They should have been honest in their "blog" to say that: "No opinion outside of ours is allowed.  No one is able to think.  Accordists ONLY!  We rule by stealth and by might.  No truth tolerated.  You must see, hear, and speak only what we tell you..."

    It shows that Fr. Rostand's new motto is -to Hide and divide...

    And they think there is no crisis here...?

    Hmmm...

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    « Reply #13 on: May 01, 2013, 01:12:51 PM »
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  • To add to this, when I look at the date of this Angeluspress.org post, May 1, 2013, it is the feast of St. Joseph.  Didn’t the SSPX just consecrate their N-SSPX to St. Joseph; for Honor, Truth, and protection?

    To remove this truthful response of Fr. Chazal from their “blog”, for other readers to be informed in the “truth and reality” of the situation, to convert them from their dangerous dreams, it seems to be quite a hypocrisy of this consecration to St. Joseph -and to St. Joseph himself- the Foster Father of the Divine Truth.

    Or was the consecration just a show of piety...God knows.

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    « Reply #14 on: May 01, 2013, 06:48:42 PM »
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  • Fr. Chazal at his best, poor accordistas!



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