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Offline klasG4e

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Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
« on: November 29, 2018, 02:35:55 PM »
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  • Fr. Chazal has wisely locked arms in the fight to draw ccC -- correct, critical, and Catholic -- attention to the poisonous pen of Fr. Robinson as seen in his comments as transcribed below -- starting at 15:49 and going to 16:44.

    ""And the Society in the case of the book [The Realist Guide to Religion and Science] of Father Paul Robinson the Society is showing the same weakness. So, this book is [a] modernist book and it shows one of the many signs ...it shows that the SSPX also is taken from the rear ...is rotting from inside. They are not able to cut off the a coming of modernism within their ranks. That priest is a teacher in the seminary and he has issued a book which is loaded by [sic] with sublime modernism. It's not a [unintelligible to this recorder] modernism, but it's a sublime modernism.  It's a faith in a Big Bang into a related concept of evolution. And so they are ....they are not able to anymore to remove from their midst the a troublemakers, the doctrinal troublemakers especially in the seminaries. And that's a big problem from a [sic] for the a neo-SSPX."


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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #1 on: November 29, 2018, 02:42:21 PM »
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  • Fr. Chazal has wisely locked arms in the fight to draw ccC -- correct, critical, and Catholic -- attention to the poisonous pen of Fr. Robinson as seen in his comments as transcribed below -- starting at 15:49 and going to 16:44.

    ""And the Society in the case of the book [The Realist Guide to Religion and Science] of Father Paul Robinson the Society is showing the same weakness. So, this book is [a] modernist book and it shows one of the many signs ...it shows that the SSPX also is taken from the rear ...is rotting from inside. They are not able to cut off the a coming of modernism within their ranks. That priest is a teacher in the seminary and he has issued a book which is loaded by [sic] with semi-modernism. It's not entirely modernism, but it's a semi-modernism.  It's a faith in a Big Bang into a related concept of evolution. And so they are ....they are not able to anymore to remove from their midst the a troublemakers, the doctrinal troublemakers especially in the seminaries. And that's a big problem from a [sic] for the a neo-SSPX."
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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #2 on: November 29, 2018, 05:03:38 PM »
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  • Corrected version.
    Thank you Nadir and I just realized that I had left out the link to the video.
    Here it is:

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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #3 on: December 18, 2018, 07:30:18 AM »
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  • Thank you Nadir and I just realized that I had left out the link to the video.
    Here it is:

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    It seems to me that the most important thing he said was at 4:43; I really appreciated hearing that.
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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #4 on: February 12, 2019, 07:01:53 PM »
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  • Father Pfeiffer tears into Fr. Robinson's book as well -- starting at 1:32.


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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #5 on: February 14, 2019, 04:05:13 PM »
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  • Evolution and the Big Bang are compatible with the Faith. Read Pius XII and Garrigou on these points. Fr. Chazal can be nutty at times
    "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #6 on: February 14, 2019, 07:09:40 PM »
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  • Evolution and the Big Bang are compatible with the Faith. Read Pius XII and Garrigou on these points. Fr. Chazal can be nutty at times

    Evolution and the Big Bang are NOT compatible with the Faith.  Read the Bible.

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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #7 on: February 14, 2019, 08:04:43 PM »
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  • Evolution and the Big Bang are NOT compatible with the Faith.  Read the Bible.
    I’m Catholic, not Protestant. Not everything in the Bible is to be taken in a strictly literal sense. Read Providentissimus  Deus if you want a Catholic understanding of how the Bible is to be interpreted. You’re free to hold creationist views, but you may not impose them on others.
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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #8 on: February 14, 2019, 08:26:37 PM »
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  • Evolution and the Big Bang are NOT compatible with the Faith.  Read the Bible.
    I agree that evolution and the big bang are NOT compatible with the faith. I am not one to argue though, I will just express my unvaluable opinion for those who may or may not care. I find it funny for an evolutionist to say one may hold traditional views but one may not impose them on others. 
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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #9 on: February 14, 2019, 08:39:27 PM »
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  • I agree that evolution and the big bang are NOT compatible with the faith. I am not one to argue though, I will just express my unvaluable opinion for those who may or may not care. I find it funny for an evolutionist to say one may hold traditional views but one may not impose them on others.
    I’m not an “evolutionist” unless you want to call Newman, Garrigou, and Pius XII evolutionists. 
    "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #10 on: February 14, 2019, 08:53:02 PM »
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  • Evolution and the Big Bang are compatible with the Faith.
    Evolution and the Big Bang are fairy tales for adults.  Our Catholic Faith is not a fairy tale.  How is man evolving from a monkey compatible with our Catholic Faith?


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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #11 on: February 14, 2019, 09:16:27 PM »
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  • Had an old Traditional Priest back in the 80’s teach that you could believe in Big Bang but not Evolution. 

    His caveat was that you must believe that God used some sort of Big Bang to start the creation process; not that the bang happened out of nowhere.

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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #12 on: February 14, 2019, 09:18:12 PM »
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  • Did he say what went bang?
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #13 on: February 14, 2019, 09:33:02 PM »
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  • Science proves that for all atoms to form molecules there must be a transfer of energy, either positive or negative.

    It was a long time ago...around 1982, if I’m correct, but the premise was that God created a large explosion of energy to allow atoms to form elements/ molecules...

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    Re: Fr. Chazal Rips Fr. Robinson's Book
    « Reply #14 on: February 14, 2019, 09:45:26 PM »
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  • BB says light came before the Earth.
    SS says Earth came before the light.