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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2023, 09:21:38 AM »
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    • This is great news.  In the Bible we aren’t supposed to be associated with anyone who rejects the true teachings of Jesus Christ. 
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    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #31 on: December 15, 2023, 09:22:52 AM »
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    • I’m wondering about my own baptism.  
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    Offline Plenus Venter

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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #32 on: December 15, 2023, 02:20:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Catholic Knight on December 15, 2023, 06:55:18 AM
    Archbishop Vigano came out stating that he does not hold Jorge Bergoglio as pope due to a defect of consent BEFORE Fr. Chazal's November 2023 conference.
    Oh, my apologies and thank you for the correction CK. When exactly was that conference? At any rate, his position I think was a bit more ambiguous at that time. He clearly stated at the start of the first conference that he was not proposing the answers, he was only asking the question. In this last conference he is providing the answer quite emphatically!
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    Offline Kazimierz

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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #33 on: December 15, 2023, 02:27:24 PM »
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    • For those in the US who have ordered Fr Chazal's book on Eternal Hell, may I inquire how much was charged for shipping?

    The cost for Canada, and international orders for shipping is prohibitively expensive. I have ordered books from Florida - major tomes - and have them shipped for half the price posted on Mr. Akin's site.

    Another request for a PDF version I offer heavenwards. Judging by the lack thereof since a forum post was made on this topic, it is something that has not come to pass.
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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #34 on: December 15, 2023, 02:45:35 PM »
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    • Here is what Fr Jenkins has to say about Vigano's announcement of his new seminary.  It is interesting that he doesn't even bring up the need for a conditional consecration.

    Around the 32:20 mark:





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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #35 on: December 15, 2023, 02:57:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on December 15, 2023, 02:45:35 PM
    Here is what Fr Jenkins has to say about Vigano's announcement of his new seminary.  It is interesting that he doesn't even bring up the need for a conditional consecration.

    Around the 32:20 mark:


    Listen at 1.25 speed
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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #36 on: December 15, 2023, 03:14:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Plenus Venter on December 14, 2023, 05:45:11 AM
    52:00 - "I think it will take me two years" and will have 700 pages.
    Thank you, I haven't had the chance to listen yet. That will be quite the wait, but well worth it. God bless Fr. Chazal!
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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #37 on: December 15, 2023, 03:19:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Kazimierz on December 15, 2023, 02:27:24 PM
    For those in the US who have ordered Fr Chazal's book on Eternal Hell, may I inquire how much was charged for shipping?

    The cost for Canada, and international orders for shipping is prohibitively expensive. I have ordered books from Florida - major tomes - and have them shipped for half the price posted on Mr. Akin's site.

    Another request for a PDF version I offer heavenwards. Judging by the lack thereof since a forum post was made on this topic, it is something that has not come to pass.
    I checked and shipping was about $5 when I ordered it, I live in the US. I did check the website just now and was quoted $35 as the cheapest to ship to Canada. I would try emailing Mr. Akins and seeing if there is a cheaper shipping method he can use, because I've shipped packages larger than a book to Canada before for less than that
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #38 on: December 15, 2023, 03:21:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Giovanni Berto on December 14, 2023, 09:15:08 AM
    Sadly, you might be right. :facepalm:

    We'll have to stick with Fr. Vigano then.

    No.  +Vigano has been conditionally consecrated.

    IMO, it's long overdue to have Fr. Chazal consecrated a bishop.
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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #39 on: December 15, 2023, 03:38:02 PM »
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    No.  +Vigano has been conditionally consecrated.
    Has this been confirmed?  Why isn't this public?
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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #40 on: December 15, 2023, 03:47:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on December 15, 2023, 03:38:02 PM
    Has this been confirmed?  Why isn't this public?

    Yes, it's been confirmed by multiple sources, including some in relatively-public ways.  I do not know why it hasn't been widely announced, however.  Perhaps +Vigano wanted to lay low a bit since as soon as he aligns himself with the wicked h0Ɩ0cαųst-denier group, he probably looses any influence he may have on the conservative Novus Ordite crowd.  But I don't know and am speculating.

    Given that +Vigano was directly "consecrated" by Saint Wojtyla the Great, I'm sure there's going to be a huge political blowback.  Ironically, +Williamson also conditionally ordained a priest (many years ago), Fr. Carlos Casavantes, who had been "ordained" by Wojtyla.
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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #41 on: December 15, 2023, 04:03:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 15, 2023, 03:21:58 PM
    IMO, it's long overdue to have Fr. Chazal consecrated a bishop.

    Of course, given that Fr. Chazal was in the UK in November, and +Williamson has done a couple of non-public ones by this time ... it's not impossible that he too has been consecrated.  I suspect that Bishop Williamson foresees something very bad coming down the road, even worse than the COVID lockdown, where the clergy will not be able to travel freely.  I also feel that there should be an underground network of quietly-ordained priests to serve the faithful when (not if) those lockdowns happen.  Neo-SSPX will likely fold like the proverbial accordion.
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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #42 on: December 15, 2023, 04:23:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on December 15, 2023, 09:22:52 AM
    I’m wondering about my own baptism. 

    Why?  Baptism is probably one of the most difficult to mess up.  Unless you were dealing with one of the more wild and crazy NO priests, you're probably good ... but I don't see why you couldn't seek a conditional.  I was born and baptized in 1968 in the Traditional Rite (new Rite was promulgated in 1969, but I believe the choice was given to priests to use either one through Easter 1970.
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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #43 on: December 15, 2023, 04:33:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Plenus Venter on December 15, 2023, 02:20:15 PM
    Oh, my apologies and thank you for the correction CK. When exactly was that conference? At any rate, his position I think was a bit more ambiguous at that time. He clearly stated at the start of the first conference that he was not proposing the answers, he was only asking the question. In this last conference he is providing the answer quite emphatically!

    Here is an X post Archbishop Vigano made on Oct. 3, 2023:


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    Re: Fr Chazal Conference in the UK November 2023
    « Reply #44 on: December 15, 2023, 04:34:45 PM »
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    • Here is the first conference where he made it evident that he did not accept Jorge Bergoglio as pope:

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