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Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: MaterDominici on October 15, 2015, 03:04:47 PM
It looks like Fr Cardozo was able to bring the Sacraments to some US locations recently.

 :rahrah:

http://www.cristiadatradicinalista.blogspot.com/2015/10/abbe-cardozo-en-floride-septembre.html

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YEq_FM1ZvjU/Vh0w2y4NvrI/AAAAAAAAEsg/Gq5WDrO-AfI/s400/fieles%2Bde%2BFlorida%2BUSA.JPG)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dBdveqWl8sw/Vh-Ql6u7x6I/AAAAAAAAEs4/vz-EmFRm1e8/s400/El%2BPaso-USA.JPG)
Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: Fidelis servus on October 15, 2015, 03:50:09 PM
These pictures are taken
the first one in florida, in Sanford mission
the 2nd one: in a new mission in el paso Texas
Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: brianhope on October 15, 2015, 04:23:48 PM
Why does he wear a beige soutane?
 
Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: PG on October 15, 2015, 04:27:56 PM
I like his cassock.  It has got the roman collar and everything.
Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 15, 2015, 06:21:46 PM
Quote from: brianhope

Why does he wear a beige soutane?

 

That color was standard military issue for Army in World War II.  All officers and enlisted men had at least trousers in beige and formal dress required beige shirts as well, with a tie of either beige or dark brown.  After the war, many of them continued to wear it for the rest of their lives, perhaps out of habit, but maybe something more.

I don't know if Fr. Cardozo's reason is related, but the Church practiced solid Catholicism in 1945, and all the field Masses were exactly what we have today in our most traditional chapels.  That is to say, a Catholic Mass with well-dressed Army soldiers in attendance during WWII was a church full of men in beige from wall to wall, the only variation being beige or dark brown ties.

I don't know about Navy or Marines, but I think Air Force dressed like Army.

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Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 15, 2015, 06:25:40 PM
Quote from: MaterDominici
It looks like Fr Cardozo was able to bring the Sacraments to some US locations recently.

 :rahrah:

http://www.cristiadatradicinalista.blogspot.com/2015/10/abbe-cardozo-en-floride-septembre.html

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YEq_FM1ZvjU/Vh0w2y4NvrI/AAAAAAAAEsg/Gq5WDrO-AfI/s400/fieles%2Bde%2BFlorida%2BUSA.JPG)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dBdveqWl8sw/Vh-Ql6u7x6I/AAAAAAAAEs4/vz-EmFRm1e8/s400/El%2BPaso-USA.JPG)

Does Fr. Cardozo speak mostly Spanish?  
(I see the source website is in French but I seem to recall Spanish for him.)

Does he give sermons in English?

Are there any videos of his sermons?

Is he from Mexico or somewhere in South America?

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Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: LucasL on October 15, 2015, 06:35:07 PM
He's in Brazil most of the time. He travels a lot

http://farfalline.blogspot.com.br/p/missas-no-brasil.html

Mexico is very far, very far.
His sermons in Brazil are in portuguese with spanish accent .In fact some may say it's spanish with portuguese accent :)
 He's from Argentina.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Pe+cardozo

Here's a powerful sermon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYPp_xlycP0

Por que condenar formalmente o Concílio Vaticano II? = "Why  formally reject Vatican II?

Concílio = Council

Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: LucasL on October 15, 2015, 06:52:49 PM
You know what he says in the video? go to 14:00

"A Bishop showed up saying Vatican II is 90% bad, 93% bad... so If I bring you here a cake and say 'the cake is 98% good , 2% poison, who eats?!."

14:25 I can't understand what he says
i14:27: "...for 50 years! and I'm tired of it and I'm afraid that these little kids [he points to the children] will eat 2%, 1% of it!"

Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 15, 2015, 07:44:46 PM
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He's in Brazil most of the time. He travels a lot

He's from Argentina.

Here's a powerful sermon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYPp_xlycP0
Por que condenar formalmente o Concílio Vaticano II? = "Why  formally reject Vatican II?"


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/EYPp_xlycP0[/youtube]

Interesting facts:  Being from Argentina and traveling a lot, he must have some experience with Bergoglio's history in that part of the world.  But his outlook on the Faith is obviously quite different, to say the least.  I can't help but wonder what Fr. Cardozo would be doing about now if he had been elected Pope instead???

What does Fr. C have to say about Pope Francis, being from the same neighborhood, practically speaking?  He mentions "Francisco" in his sermon.

I get the impression that he could write a book or ten about this topic.  

Still, it would help if I could hear him in English.  Does he speak English?

One thing's for sure:  
There is someone who has a real gift for setting up the backdrop for an altar.
The simple white curtain bordered with nicely arranged red draperies is wonderful to see.
Am I imagining things, or is the wall behind the draperies curved, so it kind of embraces the altar?

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Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 15, 2015, 08:12:39 PM
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These are found on one of the linked sites:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QBrPzVj-524/UwfmlRGwxsI/AAAAAAABR38/5EzOYd96paU/s253/keep%2Bcalm%2Band%2Bprey%2Bthe%2Brosary.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YvrTGfmmvlI/UeViQ5WxY2I/AAAAAAABDxs/m2Gw1dKd9-o/s1600/Keep%2Bcalm%2Band%2B-%2BC%25C3%25B3pia.JPG)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KQkl0GoPE1I/UVylatRIbII/AAAAAAAA-gY/DOkgLxnmcu4/s1600/Eucaristia%2BS%2BFrancisco%2B253C.jpg)

A very powerful set of images, IMHO.  
Padre Pio was ANYTHING but "calm" when it came to defending the truth.
But in regards to prayer, he was the definition of calm.

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Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: LucasL on October 16, 2015, 03:03:05 AM
Quote from: Neil Obstat
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He's in Brazil most of the time. He travels a lot

He's from Argentina.

Here's a powerful sermon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYPp_xlycP0
Por que condenar formalmente o Concílio Vaticano II? = "Why  formally reject Vatican II?"


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/EYPp_xlycP0[/youtube]

Interesting facts:  Being from Argentina and traveling a lot, he must have some experience with Bergoglio's history in that part of the world.  But his outlook on the Faith is obviously quite different, to say the least.  I can't help but wonder what Fr. Cardozo would be doing about now if he had been elected Pope instead???

What does Fr. C have to say about Pope Francis, being from the same neighborhood, practically speaking?  He mentions "Francisco" in his sermon.

I get the impression that he could write a book or ten about this topic.  

Still, it would help if I could hear him in English.  Does he speak English?

One thing's for sure:  
There is someone who has a real gift for setting up the backdrop for an altar.
The simple white curtain bordered with nicely arranged red draperies is wonderful to see.
Am I imagining things, or is the wall behind the draperies curved, so it kind of embraces the altar?

.


He mentions Francis in other sermons. This one for instance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz9Im2X9s9g

The title in english: "Summary about the Crisis in The Church"

There's are great information about Bergolgio as a Bishop of Buenos Aires.  I'd save this video and ask someone who speaks spanish/english to translate to you, it's a very good video regarding the crisis in the Church, don't miss it.

I don't feel safe to translate Fr. Cardozo words into english. As you have noted my english is not good.

In the other video I did the best I could to give you in bad written english what he have said.
Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: LucasL on October 16, 2015, 03:28:20 AM
That website I sent you IS NOT maintained by Fr. Cardozo. The reason I've sent you is to show that it contains his schedule for September. Bear in mind it's incomplete. I don't have the complete one though.

What happened is Fr Cardozo sent his schedule by email and the site's owner (farfalline.blogspot) paste in the website to inform Catholics in Brazil. If you want more information regarding who owns that blog , go to http://farfalline.blogspot.com.br/p/leia-antes.html

As far as I know Fr. Cardozo doesn't have a website or blog. I believe is he sending his schedule in advance to the faithful by email. It turns out someone who attend his Mass put the dates on the website he/she owns. I'm not owner of that website and I don't know personally anyone who attends to Fr. Cardozo Mass as of today (16 Oct 2015) In fact I don't own a blog or a website neither I know anyone who has a blog/website regarding Catholic Resistance in Brazil.





Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 16, 2015, 03:58:13 AM
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Por que condenar formalmente o Concílio Vaticano II? = "Why  formally reject Vatican II?"

This question, "Why formally reject Vat.II", is a very timely question these days.

I would really like to know what Fr. Cardozo has to say in answer to his own question.

Let me say this about that:

In all the history of the Church, the first 20 Ecuмenical Councils were convened for two purposes IN COMMON, for there were also other purposes unique to particular synods.

But the two common purposes were fundamental in ALL 20 of the Great Councils.  What were those two common purposes?

Answer:  The two purposes common to all 20 of the first great councils of the Church were these:  They were all a gathering of the world's Catholic bishops with the 2 objectives to   1)  Define Church doctrine (defend the truth, clarify teaching, formalize dogma), and   2)  Anathematize error (condemn heresy, fight against ambiguity, denounce evil).  

Secondly, while an ecuмenical council is not a sacrament, certainly we are not prohibited from applying the same standards of quality to the councils as we apply to the sacraments, insofar as regards validity.  In order for a sacrament to be valid, it must have 3 things:  proper form, proper matter, proper intention.  Therefore, it is not unreasonable to say that in order for a council to be valid, it must have proper form, matter and intention, as well.  

Thirdly, we have the principle of Sacred Tradition.  In everything the Church does, the issue of what the Church has done always and everywhere in the past is of paramount importance.  This applies to the sacraments, obviously, such as Baptism and the use of pouring water and the need for the same person who pours the water which washes away original sin from the soul of the recipient, to be the person who pronounces the words of Baptism, etc.  Consequently, any so-called baptism that has one person pouring the water and some OTHER person saying the words, even if the words are proper, the baptism is not valid.  The same person has to pour the water AND say the words at the same time or else there is no baptism taking place.

If we were to set aside the questions of form and matter for the moment, and only look at intention, what do we find?

We find, in the history of the Church, that is, BEFORE Vatican Council II, each and every one of the first 20 Councils were convened with the intention to define dogma and to condemn heresy.  Therefore these are to be held as essential criteria for a Council to be valid.  If there is a council or synod called with the intention to do otherwise than to define dogma and condemn heresy, that would be an invalid council.  To exemplify this point, there was a synod of bishops where their intention was to update the liturgy and move the Church's practices forward to be more relevant to the times.  This synod was CONDEMNED as utterly null and void by a subsequent pope, for the very reason that there was no intention to define truth and doctrine and to rule against lies, falsehood and error.  

What do we find at Vatican II, then?  

Answer:  At Vat.II we find not only an implicit desire to not define doctrine and to not condemn error, we find from the VERY START, that is, in the Opening Speech of John XXIII, on October 11th, 1962 (53 years ago this past Sunday), we find the openly and specifically contradictory intention. We have John XXIII "Good Pope John" saying that this is not a doctrinal council but rather it's a "pastoral council" (never before in the history of the Church had there been a "pastoral" council called by the Pope), and furthermore, it would proceed without any adherence to the "prophets of gloom" (universally recognized as an allusion to the 3 Fatima children in particular and to the Fatima message by extension), for there would be no anathemas pronounced in this council.  

For these reasons, the only sane answer is that Vatican II was not a council of the Church.

Since it was not a council of the Church, it must be formally rejected by all Faithful Catholics.

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Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 16, 2015, 04:06:04 AM
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I appreciate your help, irirfleo, but the schedule of Fr.'s Masses won't help me if they are out of my area.  I am in Los Angeles, and I didn't see any California venues listed.

It would be really great, however, if someone could translate my post, above, regarding the validity of Vat.II into Portuguese and send it to Fr. Cardozo.  I would love to hear his reaction to my post, if he has one.

And mind you, this is prior to my having heard what he has to say about why we should "formally reject" Vat.II.  It may be an entirely different message he has and I might have a lot to learn from what he says.

This seems to be a very important theme, because all the errors and disagreements today amongst Catholics can be seen as an outgrowth of misunderstanding the importance of Vat.II and its aftermath.

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Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: LucasL on October 16, 2015, 04:08:53 AM
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Quote
Por que condenar formalmente o Concílio Vaticano II? = "Why  formally reject Vatican II?"

This question, "Why formally reject Vat.II", is a very timely question these days.

I would really like to know what Fr. Cardozo has to say in answer to his own question.

Let me say this about that:

In all the history of the Church, the first 20 Ecuмenical Councils were convened for two purposes IN COMMON, for there were also other purposes unique to particular synods.

But the two common purposes were fundamental in ALL 20 of the Great Councils.  What were those two common purposes?

Answer:  The two purposes common to all 20 of the first great councils of the Church were these:  They were all a gathering of the world's Catholic bishops with the 2 objectives to   1)  Define Church doctrine (defend the truth, clarify teaching, formalize dogma), and   2)  Anathematize error (condemn heresy, fight against ambiguity, denounce evil).  

Secondly, while an ecuмenical council is not a sacrament, certainly we are not prohibited from applying the same standards of quality to the councils as we apply to the sacraments, insofar as regards validity.  In order for a sacrament to be valid, it must have 3 things:  proper form, proper matter, proper intention.  Therefore, it is not unreasonable to say that in order for a council to be valid, it must have proper form, matter and intention, as well.  

Thirdly, we have the principle of Sacred Tradition.  In everything the Church does, the issue of what the Church has done always and everywhere in the past is of paramount importance.  This applies to the sacraments, obviously, such as Baptism and the use of pouring water and the need for the same person who pours the water which washes away original sin from the soul of the recipient, to be the person who pronounces the words of Baptism, etc.  Consequently, any so-called baptism that has one person pouring the water and some OTHER person saying the words, even if the words are proper, the baptism is not valid.  The same person has to pour the water AND say the words at the same time or else there is no baptism taking place.

If we were to set aside the questions of form and matter for the moment, and only look at intention, what do we find?

We find, in the history of the Church, that is, BEFORE Vatican Council II, each and every one of the first 20 Councils were convened with the intention to define dogma and to condemn heresy.  Therefore these are to be held as essential criteria for a Council to be valid.  If there is a council or synod called with the intention to do otherwise than to define dogma and condemn heresy, that would be an invalid council.  To exemplify this point, there was a synod of bishops where their intention was to update the liturgy and move the Church's practices forward to be more relevant to the times.  This synod was CONDEMNED as utterly null and void by a subsequent pope, for the very reason that there was no intention to define truth and doctrine and to rule against lies, falsehood and error.  

What do we find at Vatican II, then?  

Answer:  At Vat.II we find not only an implicit desire to not define doctrine and to not condemn error, we find from the VERY START, that is, in the Opening Speech of John XXIII, on October 11th, 1962 (53 years ago this past Sunday), we find the openly and specifically contradictory intention. We have John XXIII "Good Pope John" saying that this is not a doctrinal council but rather it's a "pastoral council" (never before in the history of the Church had there been a "pastoral" council called by the Pope), and furthermore, it would proceed without any adherence to the "prophets of gloom" (universally recognized as an allusion to the 3 Fatima children in particular and to the Fatima message by extension), for there would be no anathemas pronounced in this council.  

For these reasons, the only sane answer is that Vatican II was not a council of the Church.

Since it was not a council of the Church, it must be formally rejected by all Faithful Catholics.

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"Por que condenar Formalmente Concílio Vaticano II"? (translation  = "Why Formally reject Vatican II?")  is the title of video. During the video Fr. Cardozo explains what is a Council and why Vatican II is not a Council of the Catholic Church.

See the title is in " " and because it's in portuguese I thought it would be a good idea  to translate the title to english.
Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: LucasL on October 16, 2015, 04:17:34 AM
There are false Catholics here in Brazil (The majority I must say) that say "Oh, the Council was PASTORAL. it should be seen in the light of tradition"

Yaeah... Ok....  

These people don't care about 2000 years, the Martys, the Saints, the Council... they only care about here and now. If the Pope has a great smile, they say "Amen" and you can show all the evidence in the world still they will refuse to see.

It' the devilsh modern times my friends.
Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: LucasL on October 16, 2015, 04:21:56 AM
Quote from: Neil Obstat
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I appreciate your help, irirfleo, but the schedule of Fr.'s Masses won't help me if they are out of my area.  I am in Los Angeles, and I didn't see any California venues listed.

It would be really great, however, if someone could translate my post, above, regarding the validity of Vat.II into Portuguese and send it to Fr. Cardozo.  I would love to hear his reaction to my post, if he has one.

And mind you, this is prior to my having heard what he has to say about why we should "formally reject" Vat.II.  It may be an entirely different message he has and I might have a lot to learn from what he says.

This seems to be a very important theme, because all the errors and disagreements today amongst Catholics can be seen as an outgrowth of misunderstanding the importance of Vat.II and its aftermath.

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I'd contact someone who speaks spanish to translate the video to you my friend. Fr. Cardozo is a great Priest and he tells the Truth of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

I've only send you the dates in order you to see how busy he is these days. Mexico, USA, Brazil.. and here in Brazil he travels from city to city almost every day.

Again: read my previous post where I explained that the website I sent you only shows the dates and IS NOT maintained by Fr. Cardozo.
Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 16, 2015, 04:29:13 AM
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To be clear, the English Google translate version of the schedule from the website you sent me is this:



                                  Masses of September / October 2015
                                           Rev. Fr. Ernesto Cardozo

    Next Misas en el norte de Mexico: Miercoles (30 al Saturday 3 / oct), en Saltillo, a las 19.30 Sunday (4/10), en Saltillo, a las 10.30 Sunday (4/10), en Monterrey , a las 17.30 Monday (5/10), en Ciudad Juárez, a las 19:30 Martes (6 al 9/10) en Colorado, USA Saturday (10/10) in El Paso, Texas, USA, the them 11 Saturday (10/10), en Ciudad Juárez, a las 19.30 Sunday (11/10), en Ciudad Juárez, a las 10 Sunday (11/10), en Chihuahua, a las 19:30 Monday (12 al Saturday, 10.17), en Chihuahua, a las 19.30, followed by audiovisual (except el jueves que hay del exposición Most Holy. Sacramento) Sunday (18/10), en Chihuahua, a las 10.




I set in bold the venues in USA, for the rest are in Mexico.  

Ironically, some of these Mexico sites might be physically closer to me than the USA sites, but the practicality of my traveling to Mexico to meet him is prohibitive, unfortunately.

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Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 16, 2015, 04:37:28 AM
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During the video Fr. Cardozo explains what is a Council and why Vatican II is not a Council of the Catholic Church.

Are you able to see whether what Fr. Cardozo says in the video about "What a Council is, and why Vat.II is not a Council of the Church" is similar to, or different from, what I have said in the previous long post, above?

Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: LucasL on October 16, 2015, 05:02:18 AM
In order to answer your question I think I'd better try to translate at least some more parts of his Sermon to english

I would recommend first asking someone who speaks properly spanish, there may be someone near you that may help you or here in the forum. If you don't find anyone willing to do  I think it's better give you bad english written words than to say my own.

One thing I can do is do a transcript. I can't promise I'll do soon though.

(In any case let me repeat: spanish and portuguese are similar languages, but I it differs from region to region. I undertsand Fr. Cardozo 99,8% but I have trouble to understand other people, let's say from Madrid, Spain. This is just a small example to show you that one that's speaks portuguese can understand spanish from some regions but not from all spanish-speaking regions without proper studying)

Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: Centroamerica on October 16, 2015, 06:23:41 AM
Quote from: irirfleo
Quote from: Neil Obstat
Quote

He's in Brazil most of the time. He travels a lot

He's from Argentina.

Here's a powerful sermon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYPp_xlycP0
Por que condenar formalmente o Concílio Vaticano II? = "Why  formally reject Vatican II?"


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/EYPp_xlycP0[/youtube]

Interesting facts:  Being from Argentina and traveling a lot, he must have some experience with Bergoglio's history in that part of the world.  But his outlook on the Faith is obviously quite different, to say the least.  I can't help but wonder what Fr. Cardozo would be doing about now if he had been elected Pope instead???

What does Fr. C have to say about Pope Francis, being from the same neighborhood, practically speaking?  He mentions "Francisco" in his sermon.

I get the impression that he could write a book or ten about this topic.  

Still, it would help if I could hear him in English.  Does he speak English?

One thing's for sure:  
There is someone who has a real gift for setting up the backdrop for an altar.
The simple white curtain bordered with nicely arranged red draperies is wonderful to see.
Am I imagining things, or is the wall behind the draperies curved, so it kind of embraces the altar?

.


He mentions Francis in other sermons. This one for instance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz9Im2X9s9g

The title in english: "Summary about the Crisis in The Church"

There's are great information about Bergolgio as a Bishop of Buenos Aires.  I'd save this video and ask someone who speaks spanish/english to translate to you, it's a very good video regarding the crisis in the Church, don't miss it.

I don't feel safe to translate Fr. Cardozo words into english. As you have noted my english is not good.

In the other video I did the best I could to give you in bad written english what he have said.




Fr. Cardozo is a good priest.  He lives here in Brazil but is Argentinian.  He doesn't speak English.  He was ordained by Archbishop Lefebvre.  
Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: LucasL on October 16, 2015, 07:24:21 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RKMVd6Hx5QU/T7CDHjBHIII/AAAAAAAAy9A/eDo4iZ4L57U/s1600/Mons+Lefebvre+-+Padre+Cardozo+1988.jpg)
Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 19, 2015, 04:07:16 PM
The photograph in the above post is a good example of an image of two people who were standing next to each other when the photograph was taken, and there is no possibility of any Photoshop messing around to falsify the facts of history.

Title: Fr Cardozo in the USA
Post by: Militia Jesu on October 19, 2015, 06:37:12 PM
Fr. Cardoso - St. Augustine, Florida

(It's only allowing me to post a single picture)