Author Topic: Fr. Caldern Refutes Bishop Fellay (Read 20167 times)

PapalSupremacy · « **Reply #85 on:** August 01, 2015, 09:57:29 PM »

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Thank you.

Now everyone can learn from him. Fr. Gruner and J.V. sponsored at least some of his conferences. CFN still sells his CD's I believe.

I would not recommend anyone learning from that video because it is founded on the novelty I mentioned earlier and contains some other errors, e.g. he says that ecuмenical councils are like sacramentals or higher and says they are liturgical acts, he says that no pope can change Quo Primum, and maybe other things I haven't noticed.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #86 on:** August 01, 2015, 10:50:40 PM »

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Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora
Thank you.

Now everyone can learn from him. Fr. Gruner and J.V. sponsored at least some of his conferences. CFN still sells his CD's I believe.

I would not recommend anyone learning from that video because it is founded on the novelty I mentioned earlier and contains some other errors, e.g. he says that ecuмenical councils are like sacramentals or higher and says they are liturgical acts, he says that no pope can change Quo Primum, and maybe other things I haven't noticed.

Emotional again...I understand why (a thumb down may help you feel better). Allow me repeat:

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I had the opportunity to see Fr. Hesse in person several times and have found him to be a most competent theologian defending Catholic tradition. He was, but not for the reasons you claim, an “original theologian” in that he was able to examine new problems from new perspectives.

There are two general categories of theologians with respect to truth: the more common and popular place themselves above dogma and believe that infallibility rests in their interpretation rather than in the dogma itself. They implicitly claim to be the masters of truth. The other category holds dogma as the formal object of divine and Catholic faith, the unmistakable ground of divine revelation that ends all theological speculation on the subject and from which alone certain conclusions can be deduced. The former believes that dogma is a diving board for theoretical speculations and the latter holds that dogma constitutes a boundary, a limit beyond which speculation is constrained.

Fr. Hesse belonged to the latter and it is true but most unfortunate that anyone who regards dogma as divine revelation that stands on its own feet is now characterized as an “original theologian.” But, we have fallen upon hard times.

The entire resistance would do well to listen to Fr. Hesse if they want to make a difference. The last 15 minutes or so on Lumen Gentium are a MUST hear. I just finished listening to him and all I could say is WOW! I would also suggest you read Quo Primum again which to this day has not been revoked for obvious reasons.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #87 on:** August 02, 2015, 01:28:31 PM »

Quote from: PapalSupremacy

Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora
Thank you.

Now everyone can learn from him. Fr. Gruner and J.V. sponsored at least some of his conferences. CFN still sells his CD's I believe.

I would not recommend anyone learning from that video because it is founded on the novelty I mentioned earlier and contains some other errors, e.g. he says that ecuмenical councils are like sacramentals or higher and says they are liturgical acts, he says that no pope can change Quo Primum, and maybe other things I haven't noticed.

Wherever you studied in the seminary or offer Masses, if it is an English speaking country, I wouldn't suggest making those same comments about Fr. Hesse. I don't know of many who will take you seriously considering the subject.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #88 on:** August 02, 2015, 03:12:32 PM »

Fr. Hesse: Modernism and Pope St. Pius X

Fr. Hesse on Papal Infalibility:

Fr. Hesse Papal Infallibility - Fact vs. Falsehood

Fr. Hesse: The True Notion of Sacred Tradition

JPaul · « **Reply #89 on:** August 02, 2015, 04:36:25 PM »

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Quote from: Marie Auxiliadora
Thank you.

Now everyone can learn from him. Fr. Gruner and J.V. sponsored at least some of his conferences. CFN still sells his CD's I believe.

I would not recommend anyone learning from that video because it is founded on the novelty I mentioned earlier and contains some other errors, e.g. he says that ecuмenical councils are like sacramentals or higher and says they are liturgical acts, he says that no pope can change Quo Primum, and maybe other things I haven't noticed.

And in his considered observations he is exhibiting an ability to use his extensive training and powers of reason to actually make sense of and detect, the conciliar revolutionaries misuse of the Church's structures to deceive and subvert its function and mission.
His explanations of the sacramental and liturgical dimensions of a true council of the Church are not novelty, they are in fact, a reality.

And the idea that Quo Primum is revisable, revocable, only disciplinary, and not binding is the error and novelty of the conciliar church and its modernist theologians.