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At least he had the honesty to leave when he couldn't reconcile his position with the SSPX position. At least didn't try to change the SSPX to accommodate his new position, which countless Accordistas are doing today.

It's mysterious and sad to see a young SSPX priest give up everything he was taught, to return to his Diocese and say the Novus Ordo Mass.

I read his "farewell" letter to Bishop Fellay; he was very polite, rational, and matter-of-fact. He "still holds his old confreres in the highest esteem".

Ummm....the "accordistas" don't support the New Mass or attend it. Least not any of the ones that I know....your attempt at a comparison is a little stretched IMO.

How can you be so sure?

Are you an Accordista?

Many of them say the same things as Fr. Arthur -- that we can't be outside the Church, that the Church can't, de-facto or otherwise, promote a defective Liturgy, etc.

I have met plenty myself, and many of them are much more tolerant of the Novus Ordo -- when said reverently, of course -- than the average CathInfo member.

Fr. Arthur doesn't PREFER the Novus Ordo; he wants to be "in the Church" at all costs, and he disagrees with the SSPX "recognize and resist" position -- he basically wanted to switch to "recognize and be as conservative as I can".

Ummm....the "accordistas" don't support the New Mass or attend it. Least not any of the ones that I know....your attempt at a comparison is a little stretched IMO.

Correct me if I'm wrong: You're not an "accordista" yourself. You don't desire a deal with Rome (would you discontinue support of the Society if they made such a deal?). The difference between you and the majority of those here is that you think the Society isn't headed that direction.

I think we need to distinguish the accordistas from the ostriches.

Fr. Arthur would have been a genuine "accordista" in that he desired to be under Rome's authority. Can you be an accordista and be against the New Mass?

Correct me if I'm wrong: You're not an "accordista" yourself. You don't desire a deal with Rome (would you discontinue support of the Society if they made such a deal?). The difference between you and the majority of those here is that you think the Society isn't headed that direction.

That is essentially correct. I don't believe that the Society is betraying the Tradition.

That being said, if the SSPX made an agreement where they had to accept the New Mass ass being good, or the errors of Vatican II, then there would be a big problem. However they have categorically denied the efforts of the Vatican to push them inn such a direction. This is the opinion of almost every single person who attends the Society, that I have spoken to.

I think we need to distinguish the accordistas from the ostriches.

Or maybe you need to distinguish faithful Catholics from rebels?

fr arthur waited long enough to be ordained....... in the sspx...

Wanting to be a priest when you grow up doesn't count as waiting.

Fr. was ordained when he was 23 or 24. He couldn't have waited that long -- he was barely canonical age.

He entered the minor seminary when he was 16. He actually had to acquire new cassocks because he OUTGREW his cassocks!  I don't think any other seminarian I've known had to do that.

fr arthur's situation was unusual, and its not about condeming him or anyone else to say.... he 'stayed' with sspx long enough to be ordained.... but not too many were surprised when he jumped ship...to hear he is now saying the novus ordo.. is just sad...

It must be an expensive business training a relatively small number of seminarians over a long period of time, especially in fancy seminaries ... with no guarantee that they will stay the course or remain traditional or even priests. I was reading about how six young men in the UK left for Econe in the early days. It was quite an unusual event for the UK's small mission and was made a big thing. But there was no mention of them ever again; they disappeared into the ether! SSPX folk are not allowed memories.

They actually listed how much Winona spends per pupil Wessex at a pamphlet I read in 2010.

It was well under $10,000 a year, and half of that was tuition.  And it was far less just a few years before (undoubtedly food inflation plays a large part - food and energy costs are excluded from the CPI so when the inflation rate is reported it really has no relation to the ordinary expenses of people)

The seminarians are living spartan lives.

fr arthur's situation was unusual, and its not about condeming him or anyone else to say.... he 'stayed' with sspx long enough to be ordained.... but not too many were surprised when he jumped ship...to hear he is now saying the novus ordo.. is just sad...

What do you mean by, "he stayed with the sspx long enough to be ordained"?

Fr. Arthur was a Priest in the sspx for about 17 years when he left.