Author Topic: Fr. Aribadjis (Read 6943 times)

Ekim · « **on:** March 23, 2014, 01:55:54 PM »

Even a neophyte scatologist could clearly see through the pile of bovine fecal matter that was being dished out today.

In his sermon today, Fr. Arabadjis said those priests who revolted against Bishop Fellay are like the Pharacies who tried to twist Our Lords words into meaning something they didn't. He points to the second part of the Rosary Crusade, The return of Tradition to Rome. He goes on to speak of the crusade being an extention to fulfilling Our Lady's Fatima request. He gives examples of how great Tradition would be, could be, if it were in Rome. He clearly poses the question, if +Fellay wanted an agreement at all costs don't you think he would have accepted one by now? Afterall, its been over twenty yesrs. To which some giggled in agreement. I don't think he actually said what was wrong with wording of this second part of the crusade, but he clearly told everyone that the exact wording didn't matter because Our Lord knows +Fellays true intent. Our Lord knows that after 20 years +Fellay has no intent on surrendering to Rome. He let everyone know that these Resistance priests were trying to manipulate the intent of Bishop Fellay but we should not fall for it because Our Lord knows +Fellays heart no matter what the actual words say.

Had I had the opportunity I would have asked him why the Archbishop always prayed for the return of Rome to Tradition and not the return of Tradition to Rome. If Tradition must be returned to Rome than that can only mean Tradition is in schism.

Emerentiana · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2014, 01:59:09 PM »

an example of how clueless the SSPX really is

Matthew · « **Reply #2 on:** March 23, 2014, 02:13:31 PM »

Just so we're all on the same page, a little biography of Fr. Arabadjis:

Fr. Arabadjis is from New York, and has a strong New York accent. He was very no-nonsense and down to earth (if not "earthy"). He enjoyed sports a lot at the Seminary, and was the prefect (head) of the tongue-in-cheek "Sports department" which was created on his behalf. Don't get me wrong -- he thought it was silly too, and it wasn't a true department, but he was the man in charge of all the organized sports that took place at the Seminary.

He was in the class 1 year ahead of me, which would put him in "Class of '06", one year ahead of Fr. Riccomini. In other words, he was a 4th year when Fr. Le Roux took over leadership of the Seminary.

Theology is taught in years 4, 5 and 6.

Another interesting tidbit: He, and many in his class, were the first seminarians to experience +W's experimental "Humanities" year, which gave seminarians a chance to make up for some of the defects in their public/homeschool educations. It also gave them a 1-year head start on Latin, seminary life, etc.

I was in the Humanities year too, and it was great. A year of my life very well-spent.

So now we've seen accordista priests that trained under +W exclusively (Fr. Portugal), Some who trained under both +W and Fr. Le Roux (Fr. Arabadjis) and countless others who only knew Fr. Le Roux.

As with Fr. Portugal, I'm always sad to hear the names of people I knew associated with +Fellay's new direction for the SSPX.

On the other hand, I also hear a few names I remember associated with the Resistance.

Talk about a nasty cινιℓ ωαr! It would be like having a family where 5 of the brothers enlist with the Union, 5 other brothers enlist with the Confederacy, and they've actually fought each other several times!

BlackIrish · « **Reply #3 on:** March 23, 2014, 02:23:16 PM »

". . . exact wording didn't matter because Our Lord knows +Fellays true intent . . ."??????

What happened to this idea:

But let your speech be yea, yea: nay, nay: and that which is over and above these, is of evil. Matthew 5:37

Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** March 23, 2014, 02:25:16 PM »

Or even Rush Limbaugh: "Words mean things".

I used to be a staunch Rush Limbaugh fan and Republican when I was 16.

See how ignorant and stupid young guys can be? hahaha

Seriously, I don't normally quote Rush Limbaugh, but even a X-times divorced non-Catholic knows that words should mean something.

At the time, Rush was leveling this criticism against Bill Clinton.

BlackIrish · « **Reply #5 on:** March 23, 2014, 02:33:06 PM »

Vatican II was all about words and their careful use for a future made malleable through word ambiguity!

Rush Limbaugh knows thereof what he speaks!

Ferdinand · « **Reply #6 on:** March 23, 2014, 02:38:44 PM »

Fr. Arabadjis is a product of a seriously deficient seminary formation.

I was in the SSPX seminary in Europe when ABL was alive and things were very problematic/deficient even then. Fr. Arabadjis was still wearing shot pants at that time, by the time he entered the seminary the quality of formation/education was much worse.

My statement of June 2 2012 still holds true...

Quote from: Ferdinand

This blind obedience that is destroying the SSPX is a result of the real crisis... IGNORANCE. The SSPX as an entity (from the very beginning) is profoundly under/mal educated. Every year it gets a little worse. There is scarcely a "theolgian' or even a "philosopher" among them. Even ABL's education was gravely lacking. The clergy cannot give to the faithful what they do not have. The English Jesuits during the reign of Queen Elizabeth studied all the more.

Ignorance and cowardice are the reasons why most will go with the Rome deal. Those heroic clergy that are resisting are doing so in spite of the education they received in the seminary.

Liturgically, a new entity will have to return to the traditional Missal and Brievary and give up the Vatican II Transitional Missal (1962). Additionally it is time to dispel the "Pope John's Council Myth" as the root of the problem. The reality is Pius XII was a rotten Pope. The majority of the 20th century (except for St. Pius X) was rotten (see "The Undermining of the Catholic Church" by Mary Ball Martinez).

Sound Education, Sound Spiritual formation, Sound Liturgy should be the hallmarks of the new entity or all will repeat itself.

Ekim · « **Reply #7 on:** March 23, 2014, 03:18:15 PM »

Just so that I might be clear. Father did not use the phrase "words don't matter". He clearly said that Restance priests were twisting the meanings of these words and that God knows what was truly in the heart of +Fellay. We must look at the second part of the crusade in the light of history of the SSPX and know that it could not possibly mean a compromise of Tradition.

Zeitun · « **Reply #8 on:** March 23, 2014, 09:04:47 PM »

Wow, we got a 15 minute sermon about the evils of masturbation (directly exclusively at men it seems).

Frances · « **Reply #9 on:** March 23, 2014, 09:54:25 PM »

Quote from: Zeitun

Wow, we got a 15 minute sermon about the evils of masturbation (directly exclusively at men it seems).

:confused1:
Your priest found this topic suitable for a Sunday sermon for mixed parishioners?

The true "rebellion" consists not of the Resistance priests against Bp. Fellay. The "rebellion" is the SSPX leadership against the principles of their founder, Archbishop Lefebvre. Fr. Arabadjis seems to think it a battle of personalities, of subjects against authority. It is anything but!

Ferdinand · « **Reply #10 on:** March 23, 2014, 11:07:28 PM »

Quote from: Zeitun

Wow, we got a 15 minute sermon about the evils of masturbation (directly exclusively at men it seems).

In front of children and other innocent souls? Who is the foul cleric with the millstone around his neck?

Ambrose · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2014, 12:57:13 AM »

Quote from: Ferdinand

Fr. Arabadjis is a product of a seriously deficient seminary formation.

I was in the SSPX seminary in Europe when ABL was alive and things were very problematic/deficient even then. Fr. Arabadjis was still wearing shot pants at that time, by the time he entered the seminary the quality of formation/education was much worse.

My statement of June 2 2012 still holds true...

Quote from: Ferdinand
This blind obedience that is destroying the SSPX is a result of the real crisis... IGNORANCE. The SSPX as an entity (from the very beginning) is profoundly under/mal educated. Every year it gets a little worse. There is scarcely a "theolgian' or even a "philosopher" among them. Even ABL's education was gravely lacking. The clergy cannot give to the faithful what they do not have. The English Jesuits during the reign of Queen Elizabeth studied all the more.

Ignorance and cowardice are the reasons why most will go with the Rome deal. Those heroic clergy that are resisting are doing so in spite of the education they received in the seminary.

Liturgically, a new entity will have to return to the traditional Missal and Brievary and give up the Vatican II Transitional Missal (1962). Additionally it is time to dispel the "Pope John's Council Myth" as the root of the problem. The reality is Pius XII was a rotten Pope. The majority of the 20th century (except for St. Pius X) was rotten (see "The Undermining of the Catholic Church" by Mary Ball Martinez).

Sound Education, Sound Spiritual formation, Sound Liturgy should be the hallmarks of the new entity or all will repeat itself.

Good post, but I strongly disagree with your criticism of our late beloved holy Roman Pontiff, Pius XII. May his soul rest in peace!

Zeitun · « **Reply #12 on:** March 24, 2014, 09:32:41 AM »

Quote from: Zeitun

Wow, we got a 15 minute sermon about the evils of masturbation (directly exclusively at men it seems).

CLARIFICATION: He used the term "sin of impurity" but it was clear he specifically meant masturbation by the other things he said. And it was directed at men and he made mention of the internet. I think we all know what he was getting at. I went to a Mass last week also with an SSPX and got a similiar sermon about using the Internet for impure actions.

Do I sense a theme here?

Ferdinand · « **Reply #13 on:** March 24, 2014, 11:43:21 AM »

Quote from: Ambrose

...I strongly disagree with your criticism of our late beloved holy Roman Pontiff, Pius XII. May his soul rest in peace!

Ambrose, we are not questioning whether he was the pope or not, but the Church largely fell apart during his watch. Have you read the Undermining of the Catholic Church? It addresses under one cover just how bad the 20th century was and dispels the myth that all went bad at the Robber Council.

We don't maintain that he was an apostate or heretic and certainly do (as should any Catholic) hope he made it to Purgatory.

Ambrose · « **Reply #14 on:** March 24, 2014, 03:16:37 PM »

Quote from: Ferdinand

Quote from: Ambrose

...I strongly disagree with your criticism of our late beloved holy Roman Pontiff, Pius XII. May his soul rest in peace!

Ambrose, we are not questioning whether he was the pope or not, but the Church largely fell apart during his watch. Have you read the Undermining of the Catholic Church? It addresses under one cover just how bad the 20th century was and dispels the myth that all went bad at the Robber Council.

We don't maintain that he was an apostate or heretic and certainly do (as should any Catholic) hope he made it to Purgatory.

From my reading of your posts, you give me the impression that you are an educated man. For that reason, I am surprised that you would rely on Mary Ball Martinez' book, The Undermining of The Catholic Church.

The book reads like a tabloid full of numerous unproven and unsupported assertions. Let me ask you: how many footnotes did you come across in the book?