Quote from: Croixalist

I suppose Pope Francis is the embodiment of the Christian ideal with his ever merciful Year of Mercy? Desecration with a sweet smile, the Church of Nice! For me, that's the twist of the knife when it comes to these matters. What we had at Boston was (and continues to be) an utter mockery of Catholic unity.

What's particularly galling is that as long as there's someone to defend it with a wink and a smile, there will always be people who fall for it. I like sugar, but I'm not going to kid myself with powdered toast from Fukushima

I am neither Pope Francis nor am I Boston. I am not sugarcoating the issues that the seminary faces, nor do I think that the seminary is doomed to failure. I think it can survive, but it needs work; like restoring an old car. It can be done, but not in the spirit of animosity or mockery.

"I am not sugarcoating the issues that the seminary faces..."

What do you perceive these issues to be?

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"...nor do I think that the seminary is doomed to failure. I think it can survive, but it needs work..."

I don't want it to survive any more than I want any schismatic seminary to survive as long as it is under the current leadership.  I think most retarded 15 year olds would have even been suspicious of Ambrose.  I find it exceedingly difficult to think that this schismatic fraud duped two veteran priests.

I strongly suspect that they knew what they were dealing with and are keeping the door open to further their goals by such illicit means if a somewhat more convincing opportunity comes along.  Having a seminary be successful but for having a bishop for ordinations will be more pressure than Fr. Pfeiffer's ego can handle--the thought of it is already getting to him.

What's he going to "believe" next?  A "valid" bishop claiming to be from the "Pope in Red's" "Underground Hierarchy?"  That's at least as credible as Ambrose.

If he would take on a dash of humility and lay bare the Ambrose situation, I would have a hell of a lot more respect for him and hopefully be able to rebuild my trust in him.  And then try to make amends with other good priests and the good bishops of tradition.

He has tremendous charisma and could do a lot of good.  His ego and lack of humility are his worst enemies.  He is better than this clown playing duped victim to a schismatic fraud.

I am glad that there are a few strong priests during this time of crisis who, to a large degree and of necessity, march to the beat of their own drum.  But stooping to a joke like Ambrose is unacceptable--it is simply schismatic/protestantesque.  Until he strongly and clearly sets out how grievous that was, how it happened, and that he will only deal with known valid bishops henceforth, I no more want his seminary to succeed than David Bawden's seminary.

"Seminary" sounds very impressive.

According to Fr. Voigt and others, it seems like the playhouse in Boston, Kentucky, consists of some haphazard classes for three (or is it four) men, scheduled around an itinerary for airline travel.

A reality check is in order, heh?

Eight.

Quote from: Croixalist

I suppose Pope Francis is the embodiment of the Christian ideal with his ever merciful Year of Mercy? Desecration with a sweet smile, the Church of Nice! For me, that's the twist of the knife when it comes to these matters. What we had at Boston was (and continues to be) an utter mockery of Catholic unity.

What's particularly galling is that as long as there's someone to defend it with a wink and a smile, there will always be people who fall for it. I like sugar, but I'm not going to kid myself with powdered toast from Fukushima

I am neither Pope Francis nor am I Boston. I am not sugarcoating the issues that the seminary faces, nor do I think that the seminary is doomed to failure. I think it can survive, but it needs work; like restoring an old car. It can be done, but not in the spirit of animosity or mockery.

It needs to be taken off of the road, repaired to make it safe and reliable, and the re started when it is in proper working order. What is so hard to figure out here?

It is very clear what is the logical and sound course to follow with an old car or with a broken seminary. What is missing is the common sense and will to do it.