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Offline Meg

Re: Found on T.I.A. Website, Collection of Archbishop's sermons not welcome to laity
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2019, 10:46:41 AM »
Quote from: Incredulous on May 21, 2019, 10:21:48 AM
Wow... you unwittingly said it Megster!

The SSPX has always been wrong concerning the theological basis of Vatican II.

And you.... forgot to mention that Atila has proven that the VII docuмents are non Catholic .

But to +ABL's credit, his 238 Sermons, published in French were a basis for proving the Archbishop's conversion to uncompromised tradition.  In those sermons, he bashed the Conciliarist without any political reservations.

The judas apostle, Bp. Fellay, had to suppress that book, because it completely contradicted his shift to embrace newChurch.

+ABL sermons link


There are still copies of it floating around, but Fr. Rostand claims they are illegal to own or read, because of SSPX copyrites.




Atila hasn't proven anything, except that he's a cultist.

Which of +ABL's 238 sermons prove that he converted to "uncompromised tradition?" Please be specific.
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Offline Incredulous

Re: Found on T.I.A. Website, Collection of Archbishop's sermons not welcome to laity
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2019, 11:18:43 AM »


Megster,

I fear you'll need the scholastic assistance of prof Cera (a.k.a. trad-granny) to help you comprehend Atila's writings (below)?

You can also ask Fr. Purdy about it, but my bet is he'll reply with "No Comment"





In the Murky Waters of Vatican II

 Atila Sinke Guimarães

 The first volume of the 11-volume study on Vatican II
 Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani? (My God, my God, why hast Thou forsaken me?)
 A classic.

 New, revised, updated 3rd edition with Word & Subject Index!

This book broke the myth of Vatican II! In 1997 when it was first published, no one dared to disagree publicly with the Council. Today everyone discusses its progressivist influence.

 Know how ambiguity in the official texts of Vatican II opened the door for progressivist interpretations. Learn how Progressivism then installed itself in the Catholic Church.

 A carefully written, authoritative book about the Council and its aftermath. This is becoming the defining book on the inner workings of Vatican II and what it means for the Church.

A landmark in American Catholicism

From the Special Foreword by Fr. Malachi Martin:

 "This volume established the author, Atila Sinke Guimarães, as one of the best informed latter day students of that epochal event, the Second Vatican Council … One reads in this volume with a certain sickening feeling the unified way in which the Church's own theologians and prelates conspired willingly to bring about the present trend to the de-Romanization and the de-Catholicizing of the once monolithic institution."
 
Format: Paperback, 396 pp.
Publication Date: 2007   (A-1)

 Price: $20


              

 
Foreword by Malachi Martin

 Table of Contents

 Readers Comments
 
 Read book reviews



 Questions about Atila Guimarães' Collection on Vatican II?   Click here.
 

 Vatican II, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity & Pedophilia


A work that became a special edition to this Collection

 This work was titled The Catholic Church and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and was published in the first two editions of In the Murky Waters of Vatican II as an appendix.

 However, given the extent that the phenomena of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and pedophile priests assumed in the Catholic Church, many friends asked Atila Guimaraes to update that work in order to cover those scandals mainly in the United States.

 So, responding to those requests, in 2004 he published a much expanded work that now is titled Vatican II, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity & Pedophilia.

 It gives a more complete view of one of the Items concerning the moral crisis in the Catholic Clergy as a consequence of Vatican II.





 

 Table of Contents

 Chapter I - Ambiguity in the Texts of Vatican II's Official Docuмents

 Chapter II - Why the Ambiguity?

 Chapter III - Authoritative Testimonies that the Language of Vatican II Is Ambiguous

 Chapter IV - Srategies that Led to Ambiguity during the Council

    1. Ambiguity to Achieve Unanimity
    2. Ambiguity to Prepare the Future

 Chapter V - After the Council, Ambiguity stimulates Progressivists to Draw More Conclusions from it

 Chapter VI - Ambiguity: Fruit of the Class between Two Opposing Thoughts

    1. Two Concepts of the Church Confront Each Other
    2. In the Murky Waters of Vatican II, a Meeting of Two Rivers
    3. Synthesis: The Name Given to Ambiguity in order to Favor Progressivism
    4. Pastoral Council? Dogmatic Council? Chassé Croisé of Interpretations. Who Profits from the Confusion?
      A. Theological Qualification of Vatican II
          a. The Two Qualifications - Dogmatic and Pastoral - Do Not Exclude Each Other
          b. According to the Subject Matter It Dealt with, Vatican II Is Simultaneously Dogmatic and Pastoral
          c. Reasons of Convenience to Qualify Vatican II as Pastoral
          d. The Emphasis Given by John XXIII and Paul VI to the Pastoral Aspect of the Council Does Not Exclude Its Dogmatic Qualification
          e. The Dogmatic Tone Is Accentuated in the Promulgation of the Docuмents
           f. The Pastoral Characteristic Is Stressed in the Preliminary Notes
      B. A Practical Consideration: Ambiguity in its Theological Qualification Serves as a Tool of Progressivist Victory

 Chapter VII - Is There a Doctrine underlying the Ambiguity?

    1. A Hesitating Theology is Supposedly Normal
    2. Subjacent to Ambiguity, the Doctrine of Universal Evolution
    3. Ecclesia Semper Reformanda

 Chapter VIII - Another Source of Ambiguity: Tendentious Omissions

    1. Virginity of Mary Most Holy
    2. Original Sin
    3. The Existence of Hell
    4. Distinction between the Church Militant and the Church Triumphant
    5. The Roman Character of the Church
    6. Survival of the Western Patriarchates
    7. The Council’s Position regarding Freudian Psychoanalysis

 Chapter IX - A Doctrinal Consequence: Ambiguity Implies Concessions to Other Religions and the Modern World

    1. Concessions to the Other Religions
      A. Ambiguities in the Conciliar and Post-conciliar Language in the Liturgical Reform of the Mass
          a. Excerpts from Sacrosanctum Concilium that Open the Way for Changes in the Liturgy of the Mass
          b. The Modifications of the 1969 Missal and the Remodeling of 1970
          c. An Example of Tendentious Ambiguity: the Priestly Role of the People
          d. Two Extremely Important Points
          e. Other Topics, Not Studied Here, on the Reform of the Mass
          f. The Ambiguities in the New Docuмents Contain Profound Affinities with Protestant Rites
          g. Conclusions on the Protestantization of the Church beginning with the Liturgical Reform
      B. Multiple Concessions to the False Religions
    2. Concessions to the Modern World
      A. Ambiguity in Conciliar Language regarding the Concept of the World
      B. Adaptation of the Church to the World: General Considerations
      C. The Church Should No Longer Orient and Influence the Temporal Order, but Adapt Herself to It
      D. On Adapting the Church to the World: The Limits between the Spiritual and the Temporal Spheres Begin to Dissolve
      E. Behind the Concept of Adaptation Looms the Notion of Divine Revelation in the World and in History
      F. . . . that Demands a New Theology
      G. Such Doctrine Also Implies the Virtual Destruction of Christendom
      H. . . . and the Preaching of Socialism

 Chapter X - Other Consequences: Conciliar Ambiguity Provokes a Crisis of Discipline, generating a Crisis of Faith and Morals

    1. Crisis of Unity in the Church
    2. Strategic Impasse
    3. Moderates and Arditi Lament the Emergence of the Conservative Reaction
    4. Non-conformity of the Arditi with the Slowness of “Moderate” Leaders
    5. Among Progressivists, Authority Loses Credibility and Is Contested
    6. Crisis in the Clergy and in the Religious Orders
      A. Crisis in the Secular Clergy
          a. Abandonment of the Ministry, Drop in the Number of Vocations, Shortage of Priests
          b. Controversy about Priestly Celibacy and the Phenomenon of Married Priests
          c. The Scandal of Ecclesiastical Concubinage
          d. Priests Succuмb to the Vice of Alcoholism
          e. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in the Clergy
      B. Crisis in Religious Orders
          a. A Paradigmatic Example: The Society of Jesus
          b. Crisis among Women Religious
    7. Crisis of Faith among the Faithful

 Conclusion



 

 Comments of Readers


 "This work will constitute an irreparable blow to the forces of the Revolution that have infiltrated the Holy Church in this phase of self-destruction and the internal expansion of the smoke of Satan."

— Dr. Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira, author, professor, Catholic Pontifical Un., São Paulo


 "Obviously, I admire this book -- both for the strength of its scholarship and its conclusions, which are the best explanation I have yet seen of what the Council did … In fact, I suggest you buy three copies, one for yourself, one for a seminarian, pastor or religious, and one for your bishop."

— Fr. Charles Fiore
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Offline Meg

Re: Found on T.I.A. Website, Collection of Archbishop's sermons not welcome to laity
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2019, 11:38:01 AM »
Quote from: Incredulous on May 21, 2019, 10:21:48 AM
But to +ABL's credit, his 238 Sermons, published in French were a basis for proving the Archbishop's conversion to uncompromised tradition.  In those sermons, he bashed the Conciliarist without any political reservations.

Which of those sermons were a basis for proving the Archbishop's "conversion" to "uncompromised tradition?"

You are the one who claimed this, in your above post. Please cite which of +ABL's sermons that prove your point.
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Offline hollingsworth

Re: Found on T.I.A. Website, Collection of Archbishop's sermons not welcome to laity
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2019, 11:55:01 AM »
X:
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You are a bit confused about the applicability of laws:

Whomever would upload the sermons would be subject to prosecution/litigation for infringement.

Usually, there are "footprints" which lead back to the poster, and therefore his exposure to legal retaliation.

So this is the crux of the matter.  This is where the situation stands:
I am persuaded that X and other trusted souls, including, probably, Bp Williamson, have copies of ABL's suppressed sermons, and "much, much more."  But, for fear of litigation These parties dare not release them to the public at large. The sspx hierarchical "rats" and "nαzιs" hold the upper hand.  They can resort to Fair Use laws, and they have plenty of money to assure victory in the event they are forced into legal action.
BTW, I borrow the terms in quotes above.  They were adopted originally as descriptive epithets by one of the most prominent individuals in the "Resistance." 
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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: Found on T.I.A. Website, Collection of Archbishop's sermons not welcome to laity
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2019, 12:13:09 PM »
ALL OF THE SERMONS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE, AND CANNOT BE TOUCHED BY THE SSPX.

They are on the website called the pirate bay.

I will outline here how to access them. Follow the instructions carefully, ... OR just ask a teenager to get them off the site for you.

1. You need a thing called a "torrent client" to download the files. Pirated files are not normal web browser files. For security it has to be this way. (Take that Menzingen!) Google for it, but my favorite is "free download manager". It is a safe piece of software.

2. Google "pirate bay proxy".

3. Try the various links in the website. Many will not work. Be patient. You will get one eventually. Be aware that you will get many annoying pop ups. You should obviously have your anti virus software operational.

4. When you get onto the website, just type "lefebvre" and you will only get two results.

5. When you get into the relevant one, you will see "get this torrent" with a magnet sign beside it. Right click on it, and copy the link.

6. Paste this into your torrent client, and download it, and go about your other business. It is a big file and will take a while.

Any other questions, send me a private message.
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