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Offline hollingsworth

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« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2014, 06:54:40 PM »
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    Cardinal Garrone: But you write: "The whole Council". You do not accuse the Council of simply being a little tendentious, but of being fundamentally orientated in a modernist and protestant direction.


    well, wasn't it,  hasn't it been since, and is it not now "oriented in a modernist and protestant direction?"  

    What was the point of this edited exchange between Card. Garrone and the Archbishop?


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    « Reply #46 on: November 26, 2014, 10:07:55 PM »
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    Do Frs. Ceriani and Meramo ever do a circuit in the USA or Canada?

    I don't think they do.  It is my understanding that they have some Mass Centres in South America and they keep them busy.

    Besides, I don't think they speak English.  I know they do speak French besides Spanish, but I am not sure regarding English.


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    « Reply #47 on: November 26, 2014, 10:13:46 PM »
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    Do Frs. Ceriani and Meramo ever do a circuit in the USA or Canada?


    They say to do that is useless (establishment of centers of mass, etc.). It is to expect a restoration. That is illusion. There will be no triumph of the Immaculate Heart before the Parousia. There will be no restoration before the Parousia. (!!!)

    My goodness.  I had never heard of these priests before now.  But I have recently come to this same conclusion - there will be no restoration before the Parousia,

    I Googled their names and a few articles came up. It seems there's some controversy, which I have no intention of getting involved in.

    Are there any other Catholics out there who also believe that there will be no restoration before the Parousia?

    I have always thought that the words "In the end" did not mean anything else that the end of the times.

    What kind of triumph could it be that that later was going to be treaded down by the Antichrist?

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    « Reply #48 on: November 26, 2014, 11:21:32 PM »
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    My goodness.  I had never heard of these priests before now.  But I have recently come to this same conclusion - there will be no restoration before the Parousia,

    I Googled their names and a few articles came up. It seems there's some controversy, which I have no intention of getting involved in.

    Are there any other Catholics out there who also believe that there will be no restoration before the Parousia?


    I think the long time Trad Joseph Saraceno is a Catholic who believes like that. He considers himself a prophet. Many on this site consider him to be otherwise!
    He has predicted the Parousia. His email address perhaps gives one a clue. He spells parousia without the i.
    parousa2009@yahoo.com
    He also has a website which he will no doubt tell you about if you drop him a line.

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    « Reply #49 on: November 27, 2014, 04:23:50 AM »
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    Do Frs. Ceriani and Meramo ever do a circuit in the USA or Canada?


    They say to do that is useless (establishment of centers of mass, etc.). It is to expect a restoration. That is illusion. There will be no triumph of the Immaculate Heart before the Parousia. There will be no restoration before the Parousia. (!!!)

    My goodness.  I had never heard of these priests before now.  But I have recently come to this same conclusion - there will be no restoration before the Parousia,

    I Googled their names and a few articles came up. It seems there's some controversy, which I have no intention of getting involved in.

    Are there any other Catholics out there who also believe that there will be no restoration before the Parousia?

    I have always thought that the words "In the end" did not mean anything else that the end of the times.

    What kind of triumph could it be that that later was going to be treaded down by the Antichrist?


    Exactly. But surely the overall message of the prophecies and private revelations is that there will be some kind of event followed by a restoration and period of peace. This event could be a chastisement which includes 'Three Days of Darkness', or it could be the Consecration of Russia.  At any rate, this event will result in the conversion of the world, or what remains of it, a great revival for the Church and the restoration of Christendom.  Some prophecies also tell of a Great Catholic Monarch who will play a key role in this restoration.

    One effect of these prophecies and private revelation is to encourage Catholics to 'forget', if that is the correct word, the prophecies of Christ and St Paul - that there will be a revolt, that the Antichrist will rise and that the world as we know it will end.  At the very least, these prophecies encourage Catholics to postpone these events to some distant future and to pin their hopes on a restoration.







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    « Reply #50 on: November 28, 2014, 08:47:27 PM »
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  • Oh yes God forbid Catholics " pin their hopes on a restoration". I suppose it's better to give up all hopes of one and learn to enjoy being on the losing side.

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    « Reply #51 on: November 29, 2014, 03:39:33 AM »
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    Oh yes God forbid Catholics " pin their hopes on a restoration". I suppose it's better to give up all hopes of one and learn to enjoy being on the losing side.

    The losing side - that's a strange way of seeing it.  Christ Himself asked if there would be Faith on Earth when He came again.  The Gospels warn of great tribulation before the end, such as the world has never known or will know.  St Paul warns of a 'revolt' before the Antichrist comes.

    All of this will happen before the Parousia, when Christ will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead.  And you equate this with being "on the losing side"!!!!  

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    « Reply #52 on: November 29, 2014, 05:32:14 AM »
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  • 2Vermont said:

    "I agree, not "soon". But I wouldn't rule it out in the next 5-10 years.  I just hope he loses his penchant for believing in private revelations if/when he does."



    Revelations are a solid patrimony of the Church.
       

    1 Corinthians 14:6


    "But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, unless I speak to you either in revelation, or in knowledge, or in prophecy, or in doctrine?"


    And it should be noted, not one revelation or prophecy speaks of a future interregnum. On the contrary, St Francis of Assisi condemns sedevacantism:


    "The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity.
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    And what is your hope for Bishop Williamson to become sedevacantist? For the good of his soul? Or to justify yourself and take pleasure into drawing him to the same error of perdition?

       

    Luke 16:15


    "And he said to them: You are they who justify yourselves before men, but God knoweth your hearts;"


    Titus 1:9-11

    "Embracing that faithful word which is according to doctrine, that he may be able to exhort in sound doctrine, and to convince the gainsayers.  For there are also many disobedient, vain talkers, and seducers: especially they who are of the circuмcision:
    Who must be reproved, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not"





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    « Reply #53 on: November 29, 2014, 07:53:23 AM »
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  • Oh no, of course not. How in the world could anyone get the impression that we're on the losing side? What with not a single officially Catholic govt. in the world? What with most of the Central banks in the west ( the "Federal Reserve" the "Bank of England" being owned by the likes of N.M. Rothschild and sons of London, the Moses Seif bank of Italy, Goldman Sachs. What with virtually the entire media also being owned by the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan and their Masonic go-fers. What with the entire entertainment industry being owned by Cabalistic Jєωs. What with most of academia being ontrolled by the same clique. Losing side? Oh my, how could anyone get that idea? I mean they use their media to push official lies about everything important fm the h0Ɩ0h0αx to 9-11, to 7/7 to the Boston bombing and Sandy Hoax and everything in between. We have prospective US Presidential candidates lining up to kiss the ring of Sheldon Adelson. But really, you're right. I mean how can anyone deduce fm any of that the soldiers of Christ are losing? I mean that's just absurd.

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    « Reply #54 on: November 29, 2014, 07:55:43 AM »
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  • Apparently nothing that happens in the public sphere matters until the 2nd Coming.

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    « Reply #55 on: November 29, 2014, 01:13:29 PM »
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    Oh no, of course not. How in the world could anyone get the impression that we're on the losing side? What with not a single officially Catholic govt. in the world? What with most of the Central banks in the west ( the "Federal Reserve" the "Bank of England" being owned by the likes of N.M. Rothschild and sons of London, the Moses Seif bank of Italy, Goldman Sachs. What with virtually the entire media also being owned by the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan and their Masonic go-fers. What with the entire entertainment industry being owned by Cabalistic Jєωs. What with most of academia being ontrolled by the same clique. Losing side? Oh my, how could anyone get that idea? I mean they use their media to push official lies about everything important fm the h0Ɩ0h0αx to 9-11, to 7/7 to the Boston bombing and Sandy Hoax and everything in between. We have prospective US Presidential candidates lining up to kiss the ring of Sheldon Adelson. But really, you're right. I mean how can anyone deduce fm any of that the soldiers of Christ are losing? I mean that's just absurd.


    Very good observations.  Of course, presently speaking, and maybe since the American and French Revolutions, we have been on the "losing side."  You note correctly that there is no Catholic govt. in the world.  The closest we come today is Russia and the resurgence of the Orthodox Christian faith.  I would describe President Putin as a Christian prince, i.e. one who takes his Christian faith seriously and tries to model his behavior, (with notable lapses), after Christian principles.  But the rest of the ruling clowns in the West are, for the most part, an embarrassment, the victims, as well as the pepetuators of state liberalism run amuck.
    You're right, the Yids rule, the banks, the schools, the press, the entertainment and film industries.  All of these institutions are under their control.  I call them "Yids," because they can not be fairly or accurately called 'Jєωs.'  St. Paul informs us that a real 'Jєω' is one inwardly, and that real "circuмcision" is of the heart.  
    These Yids can not be called the "Chosen" any longer because that distinction was lost when the curtain of the Temple was rent in twain.  Their new status as the rejected people of God was capped by the destruction of their Holy Temple in Jerusalem almost 40 years later.  Now we who believe are the spiritual offspring of Abraham.  We are the "children of promise."  We are the beneficiaries of "Supercessionism," a word which the Yids hate above all words.  
    At this point in time, the Yids can not even claim any racial descent from the ancient Hebrews.  Most of them are the descendants of of a tribe of Turkic phallic worshippers, originating near the Caucasus.  I mean, even most of those Pharisees and Scribes whom Our Lord excoriated mercilessly in that day, probably, at least, could trace their ancestry to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  These modern interlopers and тαℓмυdic frauds are no more related by blood to these ancient Patriarchs than you or I are.
    Yes, our nation, indeed, the entire Western world is enslaved to the Yids.  Presidential candidates of both parties would happily do more than kiss Sheldon Adelson's ring.  They would compete with one another for the privilege of kissing that part of his anatomy which he sits upon.   The Christian world is under a curse of judgment, it appears.  It would be bad enough if we were being held down by the "natural branches" grafted back into the natural root.  But no, we must bear the ignominy of subjugation to a foul, alien Satanic race of people who call themselves 'Jєωs,' but are not.