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Re: Former SSPX parish in Cincinnati, OH now brewery and concert area
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2019, 07:24:50 PM »
I don't. Canon Law is definitely not my thing.  I am relying upon this blurb taken from the article cited:

"Prior to 1917, canon law forbid the closures of churches, and then it was only allowed if the church building was completely destroyed — not even that it was too expensive to repair, but it had to be utterly destroyed. In 1983, Pope John Paul II promulgated a change to the Code of Canon Law that was called for by Pope John XXIII on the same day he called the Second Vatican Council.
These changes incorporated a change to a doctrinal-theological structure that more reflected the spirit of Vatican II as opposed to the Pio-Benedictine code of 1917 that focused more on the norms and procedures.
"For the past 36 years, there has been a massive uptick in closures," Hale said. One change to the 1983 Code of Canon Law is that the process to close a church for grave reasons other than its destruction was established. Hale said this process is "grossly abused."
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/preservation-society-works-to-stop-sell-off-of-catholic-churches
I just realized that the quote here says that “prior to 1917”. The New Code of Canon Law, under Saint Pius X, was codified in 1917. All canon law before that date was abrogated except, of course, laws that are based on  Divine Law which are reflected in the New Code.

Re: Former SSPX parish in Cincinnati, OH now brewery and concert area
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2019, 12:01:43 PM »
Ekim, you may be unaware but the chapels are required to give 50% of all money to the district, no repair can be made without the permission of the district if it costs more than 500 dollars. The district mostly denies the repairs. This made many priests in the older days keep two sets of books so they could keep up their church. Phoenix for example (the older church) took years too complete because the district took half of the money earmarked for construction. The priest who completed it took a donation put it in a new account and finished the project. He was than immediately transferred because he used the earmarked donation for it's intended use. The priest told me that the day he was given the donation that the district superior called him on the phone and asked him if he had gotten it yet. 


Re: Former SSPX parish in Cincinnati, OH now brewery and concert area
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2019, 06:37:17 PM »
Confederate Catholic

Thanks for the reminder.  Now that I think of it...about 20 years ago when I was stationed in Va Beach, local Catholics pitched in and bought 4 acres of land on Damn Neck Rd for a little under $300k.  It came with a house on the property...not pretty, but had potential for a small conversion to a chapel.  

Long story short, about ten years before that “Father” Williamson helped to found St Benedict’s in Chesapeake.  When the Archibishop Consecrated without Papal Mandate these Traditionalists threw Fr Williamson out and gave their property to the Bishop Sullivan with a promise to provide Traditional Masses...St Benedict’s is now run by FSSP.

Back to the 90’s...because they were previously burned by Traditional Catholics in the area, Fr. Scott demanded that ownership of the land be signed over to the SSPX so that they could be sure that they would not be betrayed again.  Over time the locals were out voted by the SSPX, to their disappointment, and the small house was demolished to build a “real chapel worthy of Our Lord”.  Two or three years after the demolition the SSPX saw a boom in local real estate.  The property was appraised at more than triple it’s original purchase price.  You guessed it...the SSPX decided it would be better to sell the four acres and use the incredible profit to purchase a small existing church....

That was in 2003, last I checked, Immaculate Heart of Mary Mission, still meets at the local hotel for Sunday Mass. I’m not sure whatever happened to the property on Damn Neck Rd but it is obvious that a Church was never built.

I totally forgot how opportunistic the SSPX can be.  Thanks for refreshing my memory, unfortunately.

1917 can. 1170
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2019, 10:23:41 PM »
This makes sense, do you have the canon number for this?
1917 can. 1170:
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A church does not lose its consecration or blessing unless it is totally destroyed, or the larger part of the walls has collapsed, or the Ordinary has turned the building over to profane uses, according to can. 1187.

Re: Former SSPX parish in Cincinnati, OH now brewery and concert area
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2019, 10:27:53 PM »
Phoenix for example (the older church) took years too complete because the district took half of the money earmarked for construction. The priest who completed it took a donation put it in a new account and finished the project.
How "immediately"?