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Online Ladislaus

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Re: Former SSPX parish in Cincinnati, OH now brewery and concert area
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2019, 12:02:05 PM »
According to the 1917 Code of Canon Law, a Catholic Church had to be completely destroyed if it was closed, in order that such things could never happen.

I guess the former SSPX churches which recently fell into Muslim and Baptist hands are a barometer of sorts of the SSPX’s drift into conciliarism:

If ever there was a reason to adhere to the old Code, this was it!

But an SSPX accepting the new Code, well, this is what you get.

Note that it was never an acceptable excuse to claim the building was too expensive to repair, and simply sell it, as the SSPX has been doing: It had to be destroyed.

Here’s an interesting article (by a blog I do not follow) which came up in a Google search:

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/preservation-society-works-to-stop-sell-off-of-catholic-churches

Great points.  SSPX should be ashamed of themselves.

Online Ladislaus

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Re: Former SSPX parish in Cincinnati, OH now brewery and concert area
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2019, 12:10:27 PM »
Someone emailed me regarding the Cincinnati chapel, and said I could post this much of its content:

"along came an extremely wealthy man from Walton, not a member of our parish but one of the other trad parishes in the area,  who wanted to build a church down the street from his home on his many acres of property."

Why am I not surprised?  So SSPX is more interested in money than in saving souls.

For 10% of what they spent on that ridiculous seminary, they could have fixed up and even remodeled every single one of their chapels across the country.  Winona is a beautiful place with lots of land.  They could have put an extra building on there or added another wing to the existing one for a pittance compared to the price of that  That new seminary is little more than a testament to the egos of the men who had it built.


Re: Former SSPX parish in Cincinnati, OH now brewery and concert area
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2019, 01:11:15 PM »
This makes sense, do you have the canon number for this?

I don't. Canon Law is definitely not my thing.  I am relying upon this blurb taken from the article cited:

"Prior to 1917, canon law forbid the closures of churches, and then it was only allowed if the church building was completely destroyed — not even that it was too expensive to repair, but it had to be utterly destroyed. In 1983, Pope John Paul II promulgated a change to the Code of Canon Law that was called for by Pope John XXIII on the same day he called the Second Vatican Council.
These changes incorporated a change to a doctrinal-theological structure that more reflected the spirit of Vatican II as opposed to the Pio-Benedictine code of 1917 that focused more on the norms and procedures.
"For the past 36 years, there has been a massive uptick in closures," Hale said. One change to the 1983 Code of Canon Law is that the process to close a church for grave reasons other than its destruction was established. Hale said this process is "grossly abused."
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/preservation-society-works-to-stop-sell-off-of-catholic-churches

Online Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Former SSPX parish in Cincinnati, OH now brewery and concert area
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2019, 01:56:10 PM »
I don't. Canon Law is definitely not my thing.  I am relying upon this blurb taken from the article cited:

"Prior to 1917, canon law forbid the closures of churches, and then it was only allowed if the church building was completely destroyed — not even that it was too expensive to repair, but it had to be utterly destroyed. In 1983, Pope John Paul II promulgated a change to the Code of Canon Law that was called for by Pope John XXIII on the same day he called the Second Vatican Council.
These changes incorporated a change to a doctrinal-theological structure that more reflected the spirit of Vatican II as opposed to the Pio-Benedictine code of 1917 that focused more on the norms and procedures.
"For the past 36 years, there has been a massive uptick in closures," Hale said. One change to the 1983 Code of Canon Law is that the process to close a church for grave reasons other than its destruction was established. Hale said this process is "grossly abused."
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/preservation-society-works-to-stop-sell-off-of-catholic-churches
Thanks, I’ll do some research and post back if I find it.

Re: Former SSPX parish in Cincinnati, OH now brewery and concert area
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2019, 03:15:28 PM »
“SSPX should be ashamed of themselves .”

Why?

The parishioners should be ashamed of themselves...they didn’t fork up the money to maintain the place nor the money for its demolition.

How is that the SSPX fault?