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Title: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: St.Patrick on September 14, 2017, 03:18:07 PM
Hello all,

Today I had the privilege and joy of attending the veiling of the first novice for the resistance Carmelites in West Cork, Ireland.

The young lady has taken the name of Anne-Marie of the Sacred Heart, who was a secretary to St. Teresa of Avila. (Though these sisters will follow the ancient rule of St. Albert)

The ceremony was very beautiful and Fr. Edward MacDonald gave a sermon encouraging the young lady in this vocation and explaining what this stage in the religious life meant, among other things.

Please pray for this fledgling community that they may attract many new vocations. We very badly need them!

Mother Irene has asked not to publish any of the photos. She may publish them on her own website which you can find at http://vahfj.com/ in the future.

Thank you and God bless!
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Miseremini on September 14, 2017, 06:17:34 PM
How many nuns in this convent?
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Incredulous on September 14, 2017, 10:16:21 PM

Wow!  How nice St. Patrick.

Thank you for announcing this Carmelite novice, Anne-Marie. We will keep her in our prayers.

Their surroundings look very austere.  Deo gratias!  

Appreciate the website. Please keep us posted on any new developments.
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Nadir on September 15, 2017, 12:27:41 AM
How many nuns in this convent?
Sister Irene was alone (a hermit) for many years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bg1tZKvvwg
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: St.Patrick on September 15, 2017, 12:57:51 AM
How many nuns in this convent?
Well this new novice has increased the numbers by 100% . :)
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Ekim on September 15, 2017, 05:20:58 AM
Interesting video. Just wished she would have smiled...at least once.  Although she spoke the truth, the manner in which the message was delivered seemed very depressing.
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Gail on September 15, 2017, 07:02:07 AM
Interesting video. Just wished she would have smiled...at least once.  Although she spoke the truth, the manner in which the message was delivered seemed very depressing.
Rev. Mother Irene of the Holy Face of Jesus E.Carm is a very positive person. Her spiritual journey has not been easy and she has been very steadfast in this pursuing this foundation in Carmel. 
This was a blessed day in every way,  as we Carmelite renew our religious vows on the feast of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross. 
Please pray for them.  :pray:
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: hermit urban on September 15, 2017, 08:11:08 AM
Only one novice and two or three candidates
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Meg on September 15, 2017, 01:54:21 PM

If I were young again and unmarried, I would consider a novitiate with these Carmelites. The only drawback I can see is that the individual huts in which the sisters live are unheated even in the winter (maybe I'm wrong about that, but I recall reading that somewhere). That's a bit difficult for young women nowadays to deal with. 
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Student of Qi on September 15, 2017, 02:55:30 PM
If I were young again and unmarried, I would consider a novitiate with these Carmelites. The only drawback I can see is that the individual huts in which the sisters live are unheated even in the winter (maybe I'm wrong about that, but I recall reading that somewhere). That's a bit difficult for young women nowadays to deal with.
Having to live without family contact, friends, electronics, etc. is hard for anyone these days... 
   It is a great suffering to live as a hermit, because you begin to crave what you can't have - human conpany being the main want. I remember watching a ln interview of a Coptic hermit, and this is what he said. At the same time, it can be satisfying in it's own way.
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: St.Patrick on September 15, 2017, 04:07:59 PM
If I were young again and unmarried, I would consider a novitiate with these Carmelites. The only drawback I can see is that the individual huts in which the sisters live are unheated even in the winter (maybe I'm wrong about that, but I recall reading that somewhere). That's a bit difficult for young women nowadays to deal with.
They do have heating in their huts. Individual stoves that use firewood.
So there's hope for you yet :)
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Incredulous on September 15, 2017, 04:34:56 PM
Only one novice and two or three candidates

The Japanese Catholic religious order known as the "Handmaids of the Holy Eucharist" started out this way.

After WWII, a holy lay woman began living a prayerful life in a secluded area of of Akita, Japan. 
(Akita had Catholic persecution history dating back to the 1500s)

She was later joined by other women seeking a Catholic spiritual life.
Eventually, they were allowed by the Bishop to found a congregation.
(http://www.ainglkiss.com/bvm/akchapel2.JPG)
Approximately 25 years later, the weeping statue and messages of Our Lady of Akita began.

But it all started with the pious prayers of one holy lay woman.
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Meg on September 15, 2017, 04:36:30 PM
They do have heating in their huts. Individual stoves that use firewood.
So there's hope for you yet :)

Oh, I'm so glad to hear that they have stoves in their huts!  It bothered me thinking of them being so cold in the winter. It's the "mom" in me. 

Not much hope for me being able to join the Carmelites, however, except maybe a third order. But I could send a donation, if you could tell me where to send it. 
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Miseremini on September 15, 2017, 04:53:46 PM
Are they on their own or do they have a Bishop sympathetic to their endevour?
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Nadir on September 15, 2017, 08:50:26 PM
You can find out more here:
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/carmelite-hermit-nuns-starting-up-in-ireland/
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Nadir on September 15, 2017, 08:58:44 PM
Sacred Hand Painted Icons by Sr. Irene
http://holyfamilyhermitage.blogspot.com.au/
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: St Ignatius on September 15, 2017, 10:36:18 PM
Having to live without family contact, friends, electronics, etc. is hard for anyone these days...
   It is a great suffering to live as a hermit, because you begin to crave what you can't have - human conpany being the main want. I remember watching a ln interview of a Coptic hermit, and this is what he said. At the same time, it can be satisfying in it's own way.
It's not that hard, as a matter of fact, I love it! Being away from all the things of the world while I'm out in the oilfields (alone) in the Utah desert for 12 to 16 hours a day... ohh wait, I do have a smart phone and CathInfo, that's kinda hard to give up...  ;D
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Meg on September 16, 2017, 12:48:44 PM
The Japanese Catholic religious order known as the "Handmaids of the Holy Eucharist" started out this way.

After WWII, a holy lay woman began living a prayerful life in a secluded area of of Akita, Japan.
(Akita had Catholic persecution history dating back to the 1500s)

She was later joined by other women seeking a Catholic spiritual life.
Eventually, they were allowed by the Bishop to found a congregation.
(http://www.ainglkiss.com/bvm/akchapel2.JPG)
Approximately 25 years later, the weeping statue and messages of Our Lady of Akita began.

But it all started with the pious prayers of one holy lay woman.

I didn't know this history of the order which Sister Agnes belonged to started out the same way. That's really interesting! It shows that even laywomen can make a difference (though it could take awhile).  :)
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Meg on September 16, 2017, 12:55:09 PM
Having to live without family contact, friends, electronics, etc. is hard for anyone these days...
   It is a great suffering to live as a hermit, because you begin to crave what you can't have - human conpany being the main want. I remember watching a ln interview of a Coptic hermit, and this is what he said. At the same time, it can be satisfying in it's own way.

It would indeed be difficult to live without all of the things you mentioned above. I can also imagine that lack of human company would be particularly difficult, as the Coptic had said in the interview. It seems that the Carmelite women in Ireland do live in a community, with separate huts, but in silence except for on Sundays when they take a walk and talk together.

As you say, beginning to crave what you can't have can cause one to suffer. But I think it could also lead to helping to grow in holiness, if one had the proper disposition. But that, too, would be difficult. Still, it sounds like a good life to me.

Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: St.Patrick on September 16, 2017, 12:59:09 PM
Oh, I'm so glad to hear that they have stoves in their huts!  It bothered me thinking of them being so cold in the winter. It's the "mom" in me.

Not much hope for me being able to join the Carmelites, however, except maybe a third order. But I could send a donation, if you could tell me where to send it.


http://vahfj.com/donations (http://vahfj.com/donations) for methods of online payment


and their address is at this page: http://vahfj.com/contact (http://vahfj.com/contact)

which is for convenience:

Rev. Mother Prioress
Victim Adorers of the Holy Face of Jesus - E.Carm
Holy Family Carmelite Hermitage
Corran, Leap
Co Cork
Ireland
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: St.Patrick on September 16, 2017, 01:00:16 PM
Are they on their own or do they have a Bishop sympathetic to their endevour?
Yes the Bishops are fully supportive of this foundation. The bishops of the resistance that is.
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Meg on September 16, 2017, 01:00:49 PM
http://vahfj.com/donations (http://vahfj.com/donations)
and their address is at this page: http://vahfj.com/contact (http://vahfj.com/contact)
which is for convenience:
Rev. Mother Prioress
 Victim Adorers of the Holy Face of Jesus - E.Carm
 Holy Family Carmelite Hermitage
 Corran, Leap
 Co Cork
 Ireland

Thank you, and God bless you.
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Fanny on September 18, 2017, 03:03:52 PM
Only to age 40 allowed?  Too bad for so many women who may want to join, who are in good health.
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Gail on September 19, 2017, 04:39:57 PM
I have inserted a link that I received from Rev. Mother Irene of the Holy Face - it is beautiful slideshow of the clothing of Sister Anne Marie of the Sacred Heart E. Carm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwukPos46VE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwukPos46VE)
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Nadir on September 21, 2017, 02:21:42 AM
Thank you, Gail, so beautiful,
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Gail on September 21, 2017, 06:46:17 AM
i totally agree Nadir.
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: hermit urban on October 04, 2017, 03:48:40 PM
When a person has a vocation to loneliness or contemplative life, material objects are not something fundamental in his life. If that person, lives longing for his past life and everything he had, shows that he has no vocation. That includes family and acquaintances. But this is only understood by those who have a vocation and these are few. Most do not understand because it is attached to material objects and not to God.

Hermitages may have cold - heat insulating material (eg glass wool)
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: Meg on October 04, 2017, 03:55:23 PM
When a person has a vocation to loneliness or contemplative life, material objects are not something fundamental in his life. If that person, lives longing for his past life and everything he had, shows that he has no vocation. That includes family and acquaintances. But this is only understood by those who have a vocation and these are few. Most do not understand because it is attached to material objects and not to God.

Hermitages may have cold - heat insulating material (eg glass wool)

What about attachment to computers and posting on forums? 
Title: Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
Post by: hermit urban on October 04, 2017, 04:01:33 PM
Naturally he would leave them and if he never had them and he does not know that they are the forums, nothing would matter.