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Offline Nadir

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Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2017, 08:58:44 PM »
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    Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
    « Reply #16 on: September 15, 2017, 10:36:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Student of Qi on September 15, 2017, 02:55:30 PM
    Having to live without family contact, friends, electronics, etc. is hard for anyone these days...
       It is a great suffering to live as a hermit, because you begin to crave what you can't have - human conpany being the main want. I remember watching a ln interview of a Coptic hermit, and this is what he said. At the same time, it can be satisfying in it's own way.
    It's not that hard, as a matter of fact, I love it! Being away from all the things of the world while I'm out in the oilfields (alone) in the Utah desert for 12 to 16 hours a day... ohh wait, I do have a smart phone and CathInfo, that's kinda hard to give up...  ;D
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    Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
    « Reply #17 on: September 16, 2017, 12:48:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on September 15, 2017, 04:34:56 PM
    The Japanese Catholic religious order known as the "Handmaids of the Holy Eucharist" started out this way.

    After WWII, a holy lay woman began living a prayerful life in a secluded area of of Akita, Japan.
    (Akita had Catholic persecution history dating back to the 1500s)

    She was later joined by other women seeking a Catholic spiritual life.
    Eventually, they were allowed by the Bishop to found a congregation.

    Approximately 25 years later, the weeping statue and messages of Our Lady of Akita began.

    But it all started with the pious prayers of one holy lay woman.

    I didn't know this history of the order which Sister Agnes belonged to started out the same way. That's really interesting! It shows that even laywomen can make a difference (though it could take awhile).  :)
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
    « Reply #18 on: September 16, 2017, 12:55:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Student of Qi on September 15, 2017, 02:55:30 PM
    Having to live without family contact, friends, electronics, etc. is hard for anyone these days...
       It is a great suffering to live as a hermit, because you begin to crave what you can't have - human conpany being the main want. I remember watching a ln interview of a Coptic hermit, and this is what he said. At the same time, it can be satisfying in it's own way.

    It would indeed be difficult to live without all of the things you mentioned above. I can also imagine that lack of human company would be particularly difficult, as the Coptic had said in the interview. It seems that the Carmelite women in Ireland do live in a community, with separate huts, but in silence except for on Sundays when they take a walk and talk together.

    As you say, beginning to crave what you can't have can cause one to suffer. But I think it could also lead to helping to grow in holiness, if one had the proper disposition. But that, too, would be difficult. Still, it sounds like a good life to me.

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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
    « Reply #19 on: September 16, 2017, 12:59:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on September 15, 2017, 04:36:30 PM
    Oh, I'm so glad to hear that they have stoves in their huts!  It bothered me thinking of them being so cold in the winter. It's the "mom" in me.

    Not much hope for me being able to join the Carmelites, however, except maybe a third order. But I could send a donation, if you could tell me where to send it.


    http://vahfj.com/donations for methods of online payment


    and their address is at this page: http://vahfj.com/contact

    which is for convenience:

    Rev. Mother Prioress
    Victim Adorers of the Holy Face of Jesus - E.Carm
    Holy Family Carmelite Hermitage
    Corran, Leap
    Co Cork
    Ireland
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    Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
    « Reply #20 on: September 16, 2017, 01:00:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on September 15, 2017, 04:53:46 PM
    Are they on their own or do they have a Bishop sympathetic to their endevour?
    Yes the Bishops are fully supportive of this foundation. The bishops of the resistance that is.
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    Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
    « Reply #21 on: September 16, 2017, 01:00:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: St.Patrick on September 16, 2017, 12:59:09 PM
    http://vahfj.com/donations
    and their address is at this page: http://vahfj.com/contact
    which is for convenience:
    Rev. Mother Prioress
     Victim Adorers of the Holy Face of Jesus - E.Carm
     Holy Family Carmelite Hermitage
     Corran, Leap
     Co Cork
     Ireland

    Thank you, and God bless you.
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
    « Reply #22 on: September 18, 2017, 03:03:52 PM »
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    • Only to age 40 allowed?  Too bad for so many women who may want to join, who are in good health.
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    Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
    « Reply #23 on: September 19, 2017, 04:39:57 PM »
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    • I have inserted a link that I received from Rev. Mother Irene of the Holy Face - it is beautiful slideshow of the clothing of Sister Anne Marie of the Sacred Heart E. Carm


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    Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
    « Reply #24 on: September 21, 2017, 02:21:42 AM »
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    • Thank you, Gail, so beautiful,
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    Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
    « Reply #25 on: September 21, 2017, 06:46:17 AM »
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    • i totally agree Nadir.
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    Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
    « Reply #26 on: October 04, 2017, 03:48:40 PM »
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    • When a person has a vocation to loneliness or contemplative life, material objects are not something fundamental in his life. If that person, lives longing for his past life and everything he had, shows that he has no vocation. That includes family and acquaintances. But this is only understood by those who have a vocation and these are few. Most do not understand because it is attached to material objects and not to God.

    Hermitages may have cold - heat insulating material (eg glass wool)
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    Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
    « Reply #27 on: October 04, 2017, 03:55:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: hermit urban on October 04, 2017, 03:48:40 PM
    When a person has a vocation to loneliness or contemplative life, material objects are not something fundamental in his life. If that person, lives longing for his past life and everything he had, shows that he has no vocation. That includes family and acquaintances. But this is only understood by those who have a vocation and these are few. Most do not understand because it is attached to material objects and not to God.

    Hermitages may have cold - heat insulating material (eg glass wool)

    What about attachment to computers and posting on forums? 
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: First novice for resistance Carmelites
    « Reply #28 on: October 04, 2017, 04:01:33 PM »
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    • Naturally he would leave them and if he never had them and he does not know that they are the forums, nothing would matter.
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